I could go deeper and explain the concept as I understand it, but it is S_D who brought up the term so maybe he should define it first.
I can explain it on the basis of being one of the few here who have recently actually lived in an impoverished big old rust belt big city. Cleveland is always in the top two as the poorest big cities in the US.
There are a number of definitions of "food deserts" depending on who you ask. Some can be areas of large cities which may have crime among the causes which grocery stores don't stick around, but I think what SD was getting at was the Dollar Stores, which seem to pop up in food deserts - often in rural areas. For example, in many parts of NC (and much of the South in general), Dollar Stores show up as free-standing structures, or as part of small strip malls. Grocery chains like Kroger, Harris-Teeter, Food Lion, etc., apparently don't see it as worthwhile to open in many of those areas, so the residents either have to drive 10 miles or more to get to a grocery store, or even a Target or Wal-Mart. So the Dollar Stores - or fast food places - essentially become the only source of food for those folks - especially if they have limited access to transportation.
This goes back to the late 80's early 90's. Think Rudy Giuliani. I guess that you're too young to remember.
Mostly I squinted when you said we recently recovered from a food desert. I sort of lost the thread after that. Here's a Reddit discussion that hits a lot of the points of what a food desert is, whether they exist, and whether it's a demand issue or a supply issue. The "demand" side has a lot of supporters there but anyway it's a good read even if a lot of the points made tend to sound pretty Trumpian to me.
I could go deeper and explain the concept as I understand it, but it is S_D who brought up the term so maybe he should define it first.
I can explain it on the basis of being one of the few here who have recently actually lived in an impoverished big old rust belt big city. Cleveland is always in the top two as the poorest big cities in the US.
This goes back to the late 80's early 90's. Think Rudy Giuliani.
I guess that you're too young to remember.
Mostly I squinted when you said we recently recovered from a food desert. I sort of lost the thread after that.
Here's a Reddit discussion that hits a lot of the points of what a food desert is, whether they exist, and whether it's a demand issue or a supply issue. The "demand" side has a lot of supporters there but anyway it's a good read even if a lot of the points made tend to sound pretty Trumpian to me.
Food deserts ? You mean like we just recently recovered from ? They are coming back for the same reason they happened before. Crime. Rampant crime brought to you by the same people who enabled it the last time around, using the same soft on crime policies they are encouraging today. So yeah, thanks, Joe and all your progressive buddies in your party. It is always someone else's fault. Defund the police and no cash bail are a republican thing, right ?
*squint* ?
This goes back to the late 80's early 90's. Think Rudy Giuliani.
Food deserts ? You mean like we just recently recovered from ?
They are coming back for the same reason they happened before. Crime.
Rampant crime brought to you by the same people who enabled it the last time around, using the same soft on crime policies they are encouraging today.
So yeah, thanks, Joe and all your progressive buddies in your party.
It is always someone else's fault. Defund the police and no cash bail are a republican thing, right ?
OK, class. Today weâre going to talk about skew lines, and how they donât intersect. Can anyone think of two things that have nothing to do with each other?
Yeah, shame on them for selling things poor people can afford! Shame on them for employing people selling those goods! If they had fewer choices of what to buy they'd be infinitely better off. It's not like they know what's in their own best interest.
Let them eat Target.
I agree, they serve a niche,
but they do have a reputation for poor and unsafe work environments,
as for their profits, margins are a bit higher than you might expect...a few percent higher than a typical grocer,
so I would argue they improve working conditions, rather than lower prices
*boy, this has turned into an unnecessary thread jack
Those blights on our nation need to be closed, period. They’re leeches, further ruining the lives of those struggling with food deserts (big corporations abandon the poor) and low employment (big corporations abandon the poor). None of this is news, nor is it new.
Food deserts ? You mean like we just recently recovered from ?
They are coming back for the same reason they happened before. Crime.
Rampant crime brought to you by the same people who enabled it the last time around, using the same soft on crime policies they are encouraging today.
So yeah, thanks, Joe and all your progressive buddies in your party.
It is always someone else's fault. Defund the police and no cash bail are a republican thing, right ?
Yeah, shame on them for selling things poor people can afford! Shame on them for employing people selling those goods! If they had fewer choices of what to buy they'd be infinitely better off. It's not like they know what's in their own best interest.
We'll chalk that up to just not knowing any better...
Yeah, shame on them for selling things poor people can afford! Shame on them for employing people selling those goods! If they had fewer choices of what to buy they'd be infinitely better off. It's not like they know what's in their own best interest.
Those blights on our nation need to be closed, period. Theyâre leeches, further ruining the lives of those struggling with food deserts (big corporations abandon the poor) and low employment (big corporations abandon the poor). None of this is news, nor is it new.
Yeah, shame on them for selling things poor people can afford! Shame on them for employing people selling those goods! If they had fewer choices of what to buy they'd be infinitely better off. It's not like they know what's in their own best interest.
Those blights on our nation need to be closed, period. Theyâre leeches, further ruining the lives of those struggling with food deserts (big corporations abandon the poor) and low employment (big corporations abandon the poor). None of this is news, nor is it new.
Blame Joe? Instead you should be blaming a philosophy that prevents young pregnant women from having an abortion,
that refuses to properly fund public schools and sucks the money to âChristianâ (code for white) schools,
refuses to give poor people a tax break while providing them to those same big corporations or millionaires who have forgotten what philanthropy looks like,
that runs in cahoots with petroleum peddlers while the environment suffers,
and that does everything it can to prevent the education of its populace and shout down the experts that get in their way.
Is that Joe? That would be a very very naive take on the matter.
It was a tongue in cheek post, but perhaps the tongue slipped out and started making flippy floppy noises...
In a significant departure from its traditional pricing model, Dollar Tree has announced plans to raise prices on select products from $1.25 up to $7.
Those blights on our nation need to be closed, period. Theyâre leeches, further ruining the lives of those struggling with food deserts (big corporations abandon the poor) and low employment (big corporations abandon the poor). None of this is news, nor is it new.
Blame Joe? Instead you should be blaming a philosophy that prevents young pregnant women from having an abortion,
that refuses to properly fund public schools and sucks the money to âChristianâ (code for white) schools,
refuses to give poor people a tax break while providing them to those same big corporations or millionaires who have forgotten what philanthropy looks like,
that runs in cahoots with petroleum peddlers while the environment suffers,
and that does everything it can to prevent the education of its populace and shout down the experts that get in their way.
Is that Joe? That would be a very very naive take on the matter.
In a significant departure from its traditional pricing model, Dollar Tree has announced plans to raise prices on select products from $1.25 up to $7. This decision reflects the retailer's response to mounting cost pressures and supply chain disruptions. - thanks Joe
A friend of mine took this in Taipei several years ago:
He noted that the exchange rate was about 35:1 at the time which would be about $8.50
In a significant departure from its traditional pricing model, Dollar Tree has announced plans to raise prices on select products from $1.25 up to $7. This decision reflects the retailer's response to mounting cost pressures and supply chain disruptions. - thanks Joe
Yeah, and it's most recent citation during an inspection was a problem with the powerplant. That smoke gushing out looks like some sort of catastrophic engine casualty.
Possibly the backup generator being overtaxed/insufficient. Appears the pilot did everything by the book, if there's a book for this. Dropped anchor, rudder hard left, send mayday. Bought some time and saved some lives.
Comments on that WaPo article indicate there was a cop who barricaded one approach until traffic was stopped, then started to drive out to pick up the workers, but the bridge collapsed before he could do that. I haven't found that article though.