So I get a notice in the mail that my health care has increased again for the 3rd year in a row. At this point I'm ready to just pay as I go or need for emergencies. The risk is becoming worth it. I just don't know about current medications. He had a heart attack in 2017 and needs daily meds. They want $1500 a month just for my husband and I. That doesn't include the 45 dollar co-pay every time you see a doctor and the $25.00 per prescription. OH and the $3,000 deductible. I'm really going to have to do my homework and shop around this year.
So I get a notice in the mail that my health care has increased again for the 3rd year in a row. At this point I'm ready to just pay as I go or need for emergencies. The risk is becoming worth it. I just don't know about current medications. He had a heart attack in 2017 and needs daily meds. They want $1500 a month just for my husband and I. That doesn't include the 45 dollar co-pay every time you see a doctor and the $25.00 per prescription. OH and the $3,000 deductible. I'm really going to have to do my homework and shop around this year.
Contest: Make your own Chickens for Checkups video!
By Nevada Democratic Party.
By now you've probably heard about GOP Senate candidate Sue Lowden's health care plan for Nevadans: bring your doctor a chicken or offer to paint his house. It's the revolutionary Chickens for Checkups plan, which has made Lowden a laughingstock across the nation. Even The Colbert Report took a shot at Lowden last night with a hilarious segment. "Remember what your mother always said: In case you go to the hospital, always wear clean underwear and carry plenty of farm animals," Colbert quipped.
But, if Chickens for Checkups, Cluckers for Chemo, or Hens for Healthcare doesn't seem realistic for your family - I mean, how many of us have livestock handy for trading? - then here's a contest that you'll love.
The Nevada State Democratic Party wants to see which supporter can make the best funny video highlighting how ridiculous Lowden's Chickens for Checkups plan really is. For some ideas, check out these videos from the folks over at ProgressNow.
Fair enough... but do you find it disturbing that she thinks it's reasonable to try to barter at all? Forget chickens and paint jobs... what do you think about the sentiment, regardless of the poor delivery?
Here's what she said on the Reno TV show "Nevada Newsmakers": "You know, before we all started having health care, in the olden days our grandparents, they would bring a chicken to the doctor; they would say ‘I'll paint your house.' I mean, that's the old days of what people would do to get health care with your doctors. Doctors are very sympathetic people.I'm not backing down from that system."
She is a multi-millionaire casino owner who has long battled the union workers and mostly about health care benefits.
This issue lays bare the greater GOP philosophy for all to see! She obviously is so rich and out of touch with reality, like most of the Republican aristocracy, that she is another "Let them eat cake" Marie Antoinette.
The Republicans are talking about repealing the health care plan and replacing it with something. They keep touting the Health care savings accounts but that has really done nothing for 70% of the people. If you cant afford insurance how can you have a HSA? More proof of how out of touch the Republican plutocracy is.
Some bloggers:
Ben Smith of Capitol Hill's Politico: When Sue Lowden ... first made the case for paying doctors with chickens, rather than checks from the insurance company, it drew the obvious immediate mockery ...Somewhat to my surprise, however, this isn't a gaffe: It's a policy statement. Lowden's communications director is defending barter in a statement to Greg Sargent, and the campaign is also circulating a long background document that aims to put some substance behind the barter plan. Most of the substance of the document is on the broader subject of negotiating with doctors, not the narrower one of livestock exchange, so it's not entirely on point.
L.A. Times blogger Richard Metzger: Wanna see your doctor but have no money? No problem, just bring your doctor a chicken! Don't have the dosh for smokes? Trade the local shop for some pocket lint! Want a new car? Bring in those comics and baseball cards! What is this woman thinking?
I already read this when you responded with the same cut-n-paste to Monkeysdad earlier. Why do you remove the line that says, "Let's change the system and talk about what the possibilities are." at the beginning? (I think context is important, unless you work for one of the major political parties. Then, it's all about 60 second sound bites that really don't mean squat which then usually end up being parroted ad nauseam by true believers.)
(I'm commenting only on the initial Youtube video fuh2 posted, because I didn't think this was worth investigating any further.)
"Let's change the system and talk about what the possibilities are." Then she gave an example of what used to occur, i.e. chickens, etc.. (I underlined the word "possibilities", because EVERYONE pouncing on this and trying to make it into some ridiculous proposal, seems to ignore that she was looking for options to handle a truly difficult problem.)
Those loyal to the left seem to have heard someone suggest that in the future we should trade chickens for some outrageously expensive procedure. Those smitten with the right seem to have heard "bargaining" as the example, not "bartering". Frankly, the example she gave was from another era and she mentions that, point blank. Then the video ends abruptly and we really never get to see the whole conversation and put this snippet into context.
Without seeing the whole conversation, we are left to guess whether the system she wants to continue to pursue is bartering or the current (pre-health care reform) process of acquiring medical treatment. Hopefully she is not trying to find an alternative to that recently passed reform, without ever giving it a chance to succeed or fail. I mean, given how screwed up our current system is, it seems stupid to me to not give the new reform a legitimate shot, but then again I'm not trying to seek political employment.
Of all the respondents to this forum, I only know of one who actually lives in NV. For some reason, the rest of you write as if you are very concerned about what this woman has said and wants to pursue. Me, I am grateful I don't live there, because I suspect her poor communication skills are only the tip of the iceberg and besides I'm an Independent and I see no legitimate options other than a blindly loyal republican or a blindly loyal democrat. I think, by and large, members of both major parties answer only to big donors, with the only differences between them being the source of that big moola. To me that's a formula for continued failure.
Here's what she said on the Reno TV show "Nevada Newsmakers": "You know, before we all started having health care, in the olden days our grandparents, they would bring a chicken to the doctor; they would say ‘I'll paint your house.' I mean, that's the old days of what people would do to get health care with your doctors. Doctors are very sympathetic people.I'm not backing down from that system."
She is a multi-millionaire casino owner who has long battled the union workers and mostly about health care benefits.
This issue lays bare the greater GOP philosophy for all to see! She obviously is so rich and out of touch with reality, like most of the Republican aristocracy, that she is another "Let them eat cake" Marie Antoinette.
The Republicans are talking about repealing the health care plan and replacing it with something. They keep touting the Health care savings accounts but that has really done nothing for 70% of the people. If you cant afford insurance how can you have a HSA? More proof of how out of touch the Republican plutocracy is.
Some bloggers:
Ben Smith of Capitol Hill's Politico: When Sue Lowden ... first made the case for paying doctors with chickens, rather than checks from the insurance company, it drew the obvious immediate mockery ...Somewhat to my surprise, however, this isn't a gaffe: It's a policy statement. Lowden's communications director is defending barter in a statement to Greg Sargent, and the campaign is also circulating a long background document that aims to put some substance behind the barter plan. Most of the substance of the document is on the broader subject of negotiating with doctors, not the narrower one of livestock exchange, so it's not entirely on point.
L.A. Times blogger Richard Metzger: Wanna see your doctor but have no money? No problem, just bring your doctor a chicken! Don't have the dosh for smokes? Trade the local shop for some pocket lint! Want a new car? Bring in those comics and baseball cards! What is this woman thinking?
I heard a lady who: 1) thinks it is realistic to walk up to the front desk and ask to talk to a doctor though they don't have insurance or cash to pay for whatever it is they need (odds are against it) 2) thinks that even IF such a person gets an audience with a doctor, that offering to "paint a house" (her words) would be accepted as trade for health services (doubtful) 3) thinks that even IF such an offer would be acceptable, assumes that the sick person would actually even have anything of worth to barter (highly unlikely in many cases) 4) seems a little out of touch with reality
Why? What did you hear?
I just imagine my 87 year-old grandmother with Alzheimer's offering to wax his Volvo, or my late, 68 year old father with renal failure and heart failure offering to collect golf balls... Amusing in a sick kind of way...
(I'm commenting only on the initial Youtube video fuh2 posted, because I didn't think this was worth investigating any further.)
"Let's change the system and talk about what the possibilities are." Then she gave an example of what used to occur, i.e. chickens, etc.. (I underlined the word "possibilities", because EVERYONE pouncing on this and trying to make it into some ridiculous proposal, seems to ignore that she was looking for options to handle a truly difficult problem.)
Those loyal to the left seem to have heard someone suggest that in the future we should trade chickens for some outrageously expensive procedure. Those smitten with the right seem to have heard "bargaining" as the example, not "bartering". Frankly, the example she gave was from another era and she mentions that, point blank. Then the video ends abruptly and we really never get to see the whole conversation and put this snippet into context.
Without seeing the whole conversation, we are left to guess whether the system she wants to continue to pursue is bartering or the current (pre-health care reform) process of acquiring medical treatment. Hopefully she is not trying to find an alternative to that recently passed reform, without ever giving it a chance to succeed or fail. I mean, given how screwed up our current system is, it seems stupid to me to not give the new reform a legitimate shot, but then again I'm not trying to seek political employment.
Of all the respondents to this forum, I only know of one who actually lives in NV. For some reason, the rest of you write as if you are very concerned about what this woman has said and wants to pursue. Me, I am grateful I don't live there, because I suspect her poor communication skills are only the tip of the iceberg and besides I'm an Independent and I see no legitimate options other than a blindly loyal republican or a blindly loyal democrat. I think, by and large, members of both major parties answer only to big donors, with the only differences between them being the source of that big moola. To me that's a formula for continued failure.
I've never met a doctor who was any different... they're all like stupid, crazy little Larry Kings in my experience.
Sorry to hear about your experience, MB. Mine has been quite different - though I had to fire the first surgeon when I was being diagnosed for breast cancer. He was a complete jagov. "Of course we'll have to do this needle biopsy at my convenience...." Yah. Followed by me asking his receptionist to prepare my records.
My thyroid gland was destroyed by the interferon treatment I went through then ablated through radiation. Levo is the drug I take but no one would ever prescribe it without blood tests - usually every 3 months as my body's needs change all the time. And no Dr. is going to simply write me a script based on a phone call from a stranger they've never treated. My former Dr.'s office keeps refilling the rx by mistake and it's a huge dose so I usually just break the pills in half and voila - I'm still alive... just. It is cheap - I get generic for about 18 bucks a month.
I don't know how much it costs here, but this site looks interesting to me... I have never tried it, so I don't know if it works—
If your thyroid is destroyed, then I would guess that your prescription is somewhere near 400 MCG... I don't understand why that would change every month... and I am not talking about calling a stranger— whoever wrote you the prescription in the first place... you should be able to call the office, and get his nurse to call in a refill to your pharmacy... you don't even have to talk to the doctor...
but I am not trying to tell you what to do or anything, man... I am just saying keep bugging the crap out of them and don't give up... I wish you the best... it is very flusterating to me that I cannot tell you anything to help...
Thanks - I don't even care anymore. I would just as soon not waste the 20 bucks a months and just not take the shit at all. I'm only taking a half dose as it is anyway.
forgot to mention. Did some research on my PCP- she has and had (when she was in CA ) the lowest ratings (1.0 and under- her staff was rated 5-6) that the Hospital hired her with that kind of ratings is beyond my comprehension.
Guess I should just be quiet and start being grateful instead.
Are you talking abouthypothyroidism, which simply means your thyroid does not produce enough hormone? If so, all you need is micrograms of a genericlevothyroxine, which costs about five bucks a month... have you already had a blood test to determine how many micrograms you need? This is a very easy prescription to get, if this is what you are talking about, so don't give up— keep trying to find a doctor to take care of it... just call them, and ask them to call you in a refill to a specific pharmacy... have you tried that?
My thyroid gland was destroyed by the interferon treatment I went through then ablated through radiation. Levo is the drug I take but no one would ever prescribe it without blood tests - usually every 3 months as my body's needs change all the time. And no Dr. is going to simply write me a script based on a phone call from a stranger they've never treated. My former Dr.'s office keeps refilling the rx by mistake and it's a huge dose so I usually just break the pills in half and voila - I'm still alive... just. It is cheap - I get generic for about 18 bucks a month.
One of them told me go out and pay for my own blood tests, x-rays and biopsies before they could do anything. The other one paid for a blood test then gave me some free meds but wouldn't see me or refill the rx since then. Oh, yeah, the last choice is lining up at the homeless shelter once a month for about 4 hours to get a 10 minute visit with a psychiatrist who is absolutely useless and sometimes doesn't show up for months (and left me to go cold turkey after he put me on some bipolar meds - yay!). There's not much in the area.
Google - fake name emergency room- Only in America would this be an issue. sad. What a stuck on stupid, greedy country.
One of them told me go out and pay for my own blood tests, x-rays and biopsies before they could do anything. The other one paid for a blood test then gave me some free meds but wouldn't see me or refill the rx since then. Oh, yeah, the last choice is lining up at the homeless shelter once a month for about 4 hours to get a 10 minute visit with a psychiatrist who is absolutely useless. There's not much in the area.
One of them told me go out and pay for my own blood tests, x-rays and biopsies before they could do anything. The other one paid for a blood test then gave me some free meds but wouldn't see me or refill the rx since then. Oh, yeah, the last choice is lining up at the homeless shelter once a month for about 4 hours to get a 10 minute visit with a psychiatrist who is absolutely useless and sometimes doesn't show up for months (and left me to go cold turkey after he put me on some bipolar meds - yay!). There's not much in the area.
