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Posted: Aug 6, 2014 - 4:41pm

Illegal Immigrants Kill Border Patrol Agent, Family And Media Denied Arraignment Access

Thanks, current occupant of the white house.


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Posted: Jul 29, 2014 - 5:19am

 kurtster wrote:
And how many of the little waifs are all you open border people willing to take into your own homes and extend all that you have to make their lives better ?

Since everyone wants open borders, we don't have any need for the NSA or the Border Patrol.  Why track dangerous people when we don't give a rat's ass who we let into the country ?  We can do away with the CIA and the FBI, too.  But why stop there ?  How about all the police, our military ?  Let's declare everyone alive a citizen of the United States and be done with it.  Welfare and food stamps for everyone !  Think of all the money we can save doing away with all the unnecessary government. 

Anarchy !  Anarchy !  Survival of the fittest !  

 

See now you are just trying to tempt me!{#Wink}
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Posted: Jul 29, 2014 - 4:51am

And how many of the little waifs are all you open border people willing to take into your own homes and extend all that you have to make their lives better ?

Since everyone wants open borders, we don't have any need for the NSA or the Border Patrol.  Why track dangerous people when we don't give a rat's ass who we let into the country ?  We can do away with the CIA and the FBI, too.  But why stop there ?  How about all the police, our military ?  Let's declare everyone alive a citizen of the United States and be done with it.  Welfare and food stamps for everyone !  Think of all the money we can save doing away with all the unnecessary government. 

Anarchy !  Anarchy !  Survival of the fittest !  
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Posted: Jul 28, 2014 - 7:51pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:
Yeah, they're just CHILDREN. Fuck 'em. Machine gun 'em at the border. USA! USA!

 
1)  easily interchangeable with adults on a two-fer basis. 
2)  The assets they require to be fed and taught far outweigh any contribution that they might make to society, no matter how grateful. (Note - this can be extrapolated to all children.)
3)  This is not an unreasonable chant.
4)  Why have a machine gun and claim ammunition when there is no intention of using either ? 


Red_Dragon

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Posted: Jul 28, 2014 - 7:42pm

Yeah, they're just CHILDREN. Fuck 'em. Machine gun 'em at the border. USA! USA!
kurtster

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Posted: Jul 28, 2014 - 6:24pm

 haresfur wrote:

1) Not environmentalists - environmental regulations
2) The environmental assets have intrinsic value so need to be protected from damage (aka saving the American way of life)
3) So you don't want to place modest limits on law enforcement? {#Naughty} 
4) Sounds like an acceptable tradeoff to me 

 
1)  easily interchangeable, imo and the scope of this article
2)  The environmental assets need protection from trespassers more than the Border Patrol.  The trespassers do more harm to the American way of life than would the Border Patrol.  The BP must have full unimpeded access to the border they must patrol.  The border needs to be formally fenced, regardless of environmental impact.
3)  This is an unreasonable limit.
4)  No not to me.  Why have a border and claim sovereignty when there is no intention of defending either ? 
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Posted: Jul 28, 2014 - 5:39pm

 kurtster wrote: 
1) Not environmentalists - environmental regulations
2) The environmental assets have intrinsic value so need to be protected from damage (aka saving the American way of life)
3) So you don't want to place modest limits on law enforcement? {#Naughty} 
4) Sounds like an acceptable tradeoff to me 
kurtster

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Posted: Jul 28, 2014 - 5:25pm

Environmentalists Are Preventing
the Border Patrol From Doing Their Job



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Posted: Jul 22, 2014 - 9:11am

 ScottN wrote:
 
I wish you well personally, Kurt.  I know you have had significant challenges in life and have prevailed. Good for you. {#Cheers}.

 
Thank you and I wish you the best as well.

Just to show you that I have not recently taken up the term invader or invasion as you claim, at least 4 years ago, I did use it and have used it many times.  From the first page of this thread ...

 kurtster wrote:
Posted: Jul 11, 2010 - 6:55pm

Perhaps a system to allow day labor into the country legally ?  Oh, wait, we already have that.  A temporary worker visa program for aliens ?  Oh wait, we already have that.  

Or perhaps an open border to allow anyone to enter at will ?  Oh wait, we already have that.

Then we need to ban swimming pools and lettuce fields.  Cause if we didn't have any, they wouldn't come into the country.

Sounds similar to the need for oil causes the disasters to happen.

We can build and finish the fence before the debate about illegals is even close to being over.  So let's get busy and do something more than just talking.  Or we just buy up the ranches down on the border so the owners will no longer have to risk their lives just being there.  Let the government buy out the ranchers and turn their ranches into parks and rest stops for the weary invader traveler.
  
Have a nice day, seriously.
 
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Posted: Jul 22, 2014 - 8:58am

 steeler wrote:
Did not Rick Perry support Texas version of Dream Act and speak strongly in support of providing in-state tuition to illegal immigrants?

 
To be honest, I believe that you are correct.  It was something about him that pissed me off, as did the mandatory vaccination of children and some other things as well.  I did state that I did not agree with everything he stood for.  He did a lot of pandering as a candidate for POTUS in 2011.  He was never on my list. 

His immigration policy has changed.  For that I am most grateful.  Of all the things I care about in the poly world, the security of our borders and being against illegal immigration has always been and will be my highest priority.  You can scour these boards and find many inconsistencies on many things over the years for various reasons, but not on this one.  You can go back and find my declaration where I said that my ultimate litmus test for political considerations was on our border.  And I drew the comparison to other one issue voters such as those who made abortion their primary issue.  I have taken much heat over it and have had to piss people off on the boards by insisting that people quit making the leap that being anti illegal immigrant does not make one anti immigrant or xenophobic or racist, yada, yada ...  

Our country, sovereignty and rule of law begins at our borders.  Without borders that mean something, nothing else matters.  I have been 100% consistent over the years on this.

Perry has changed his position.  I guess that he figured it out and came up with the right conclusion.  I support that conclusion and am not afraid to say so.  That does not mean I support him on everything, but on this I do.  Feel free to backscroll this and the two other threads on this matter and find any inconsistencies on the matter.  There aren't any.  This matter has been an active concern of mine for over 45 years.  I will die before I yield on this matter.
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Posted: Jul 22, 2014 - 8:14am

 kurtster wrote:
And you call me a prolific poster ?  

Try this ...

Then this ...

And finally ...
 
3: marked by abundant inventiveness or productivity {#Mrgreen}
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Posted: Jul 22, 2014 - 7:30am

 steeler wrote:
Did not Rick Perry support Texas version of Dream Act and speak strongly in support of providing in-state tuition to illegal immigrants?

 
Focus, man! This is all about Obama!
steeler

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Posted: Jul 22, 2014 - 7:25am

Did not Rick Perry support Texas version of Dream Act and speak strongly in support of providing in-state tuition to illegal immigrants?
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Posted: Jul 22, 2014 - 7:17am

 kurtster wrote:

Before you go, what exactly are my misstatements you refer to ?
And you call me a prolific poster ?  

Try this ...

Then this ...

And finally ...

I wish you well personally, Kurt.  I know you have had significant challenges in life and have prevailed. Good for you. {#Cheers}.


kurtster

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Posted: Jul 22, 2014 - 2:19am

Hey buddy, let me in.  I don't care if the concert is sold out, I drove 2,000 miles in 4 days to get here and see these guys.  I've earned the right to see the show.  I've been a fan my entire life.  I'll just die if I don't see them.  What do you mean I need a ticket ?  Who do you think you are ?  What gives you the right to tell me no ?   Ok, I'll pay for the ticket.  Sorry, the show is sold out, there are no more tickets, you cannot come in.  Oh yeah ?  I'll show you buddy.  I'm going to get some of my friends and there will be so many of us you can't stop us.  We'll show you who is boss around here.  You can take your rules and tickets and shove them ...

.
And then there was the one about the ferry in South Korea.  They just kept letting people on and on and all the cargo.  We'll they sailed off and hit some rough weather.  It sank because it was overloaded and capsized.  There were few survivors.  Most of the dead were school children on a field trip who had made plans and bought tickets long in advance.  

.
# sigh ... 


kurtster

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Posted: Jul 21, 2014 - 10:58pm

 ScottN wrote:
 You post prolifically. 

But your misstatements and mistaken statements, and what you imply as logical conclusions, require a response.

I wish you well personally.  But your vitriol is becoming poisonous. It is not humanitarian, imo.  You are not generous to your fellow humans (children, in this case) on the planet.
Good bye (for about the ninth time).

 
Before you go, what exactly are my misstatements you refer to ?
And you call me a prolific poster ?  

Try this ...

Then this ...

And finally ...
R_P

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Posted: Jul 21, 2014 - 10:08pm

 kurtster wrote:
(...) What are the good people of the left doing ? 

Well, in some of those relevant countries they might still be hiding/running away from right-wing death squads/militias and/or coup leaders that were generously funded with your tax dollars (or see your personal hero's big ol' Iran-Contra Adventure's creative use of accounting). Although the projection of power there has become somewhat less potent in recent decades.

And while (personal and fiscal) responsibility is always held up as a great virtue (especially right of the aisle), it's somehow different when things get broken somewhere else and the consequences happen to end up right on your doorstep (a.k.a. blowback), as opposed to just staying a great faraway place for investment (bomb, rebuild, arm, ad infinitum). {#Mrgreen}

Finally, if you keep the shining city on the hill's propaganda engines running long enough, some are bound to believe the stuff they churn out...
kurtster

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Posted: Jul 21, 2014 - 9:57pm

The Dream Act promise of Amnesty is the magnet that draws people to come here illegally.

Who authored the Dream Act ?

We let a great deal of people into this country legally every year.   To allow illegals the same status of legals is to diminish those who have come here legally and what this country and its Constitution stands for.

And what was up with FDR ?  Did he put Americans first during hard times ?  The horror ... 

And when we look at Obama's numbers there seems to be a definite decline in the number of legal immigrants he is letting in.  Hmmm.

The numbers do not lie ...
 
Table 1.  
PERSONS OBTAINING LAWFUL PERMANENT RESIDENT STATUS: FISCAL YEARS 1820 TO 2013 
   
YearNumberYearNumberYearNumberYearNumber  
18208,385 1870387,203 1920430,001 1970373,326  
18219,127 1871321,350 1921805,228 1971370,478  
18226,911 1872404,806 1922309,556 1972384,685  
18236,354 1873459,803 1923522,919 1973398,515  
18247,912 1874313,339 1924706,896 1974393,919  
182510,199 1875227,498 1925294,314 1975385,378  
182610,837 1876169,986 1926304,488 1976¹499,093  
182718,875 1877141,857 1927335,175 1977458,755  
182827,382 1878138,469 1928307,255 1978589,810  
182922,520 1879177,826 1929279,678 1979394,244  
183023,322 1880457,257 1930241,700 1980524,295  
183122,633 1881669,431 193197,139 1981595,014  
183260,482 1882788,992 193235,576 1982533,624  
183358,640 1883603,322 193323,068 1983550,052  
183465,365 1884518,592 193429,470 1984541,811  
183545,374 1885395,346 193534,956 1985568,149  
183676,242 1886334,203 193636,329 1986600,027  
183779,340 1887490,109 193750,244 1987599,889  
183838,914 1888546,889 193867,895 1988641,346  
183968,069 1889444,427 193982,998 19891,090,172  
184084,066 1890455,302 194070,756 19901,535,872  
184180,289 1891560,319 194151,776 1991       1,826,595  
1842104,565 1892579,663 194228,781 1992          973,445  
184352,496 1893439,730 194323,725 1993          903,916  
184478,615 1894285,631 194428,551 1994         803,993  
1845114,371 1895258,536 194538,119 1995         720,177  
1846154,416 1896343,267 1946108,721 1996        915,560  
1847234,968 1897230,832 1947147,292 1997        797,847  
1848226,527 1898229,299 1948170,570 1998        653,206  
1849297,024 1899311,715 1949188,317 1999        644,787  
1850369,980 1900448,572 1950249,187 2000        841,002  
1851379,466 1901487,918 1951205,717 2001     1,058,902  
1852371,603 1902648,743 1952265,520 2002     1,059,356  
1853368,645 1903857,046 1953170,434 2003        703,542  
1854427,833 1904812,870 1954208,177 2004        957,883  
1855200,877 19051,026,499 1955237,790 20051,122,257  
1856200,436 19061,100,735 1956321,625 20061,266,129  
1857251,306 19071,285,349 1957326,867 20071,052,415  
1858123,126 1908782,870 1958253,265 20081,107,126  
1859121,282 1909751,786 1959260,686 20091,130,818  
1860153,640 19101,041,570 1960265,398 2010       1,042,625  
186191,918 1911878,587 1961271,344 20111,062,040  
186291,985 1912838,172 1962283,763 20121,031,631  
1863176,282 19131,197,892 1963306,260 2013         990,553  
1864193,418 19141,218,480 1964292,248    
1865248,120 1915326,700 1965296,697    
1866318,568 1916298,826 1966323,040    
1867315,722 1917295,403 1967361,972    
1868138,840 1918110,618 1968454,448    
1869352,768 1919141,132 1969358,579    
¹ Includes the 15 months from July 1, 1975 to September 30, 1976 because the end date of fiscal years was changed from June 30 to September 30.
Source: U.S. Department of Homeland Security.      
          
          

Table 3.           
PERSONS OBTAINING LAWFUL PERMANENT RESIDENT STATUS BY REGION AND COUNTRY OF BIRTH: FISCAL YEARS 2004 TO 2013  
            
Region and country of birth2004200520062007200820092010201120122013 
REGION           
Total    957,883 1,122,257 1,266,129 1,052,415 1,107,126 1,130,818 1,042,625 1,062,040 1,031,631    990,553 
Africa      66,417      85,094    117,421      94,710    105,915    127,046    101,355    100,374    107,241      98,304 
Asia    342,930    411,722    440,335    397,834    399,027    413,312    422,063    451,593    429,599    400,548 
Europe    124,884    164,989    146,292    106,566    103,782    105,476      88,801      83,850      81,671      86,556 
North America    342,383    345,476    413,992    339,294    393,196    375,180    336,553    333,902    327,771    315,660 
Oceania        5,985        6,546        7,384        6,101        5,263        5,578        5,345        4,980        4,742        5,277 
South America      72,057    103,127    137,971    106,516      98,549    102,860      87,178      86,096      79,401      80,945 
Unknown        3,227        5,303        2,734        1,394        1,394        1,366        1,330        1,245        1,206        3,263 
COUNTRY           
Total    957,883 1,122,257 1,266,129 1,052,415 1,107,126 1,130,818 1,042,625 1,062,040 1,031,631    990,553 
Afghanistan        2,137        4,749        3,417        1,753        2,813        3,165        2,017        1,648        1,617        2,196 
Albania        3,840        5,947        7,914        5,737        5,754        5,137        4,711        3,612        3,364        3,186 
Algeria          805        1,115        1,300        1,036        1,037        1,485        1,305        1,364        1,369        1,241 
American Samoa            12            15            28            11            14            19            14 D  -  D  
Angola          107          188          272          199          221          173          148          148          187          143 
Anguilla            22            35            32            25            22            21            19            25            23            22 
Antigua-Barbuda          414          440          570          415          444          437          359          368          337          344 
Argentina        4,805        7,081        7,327        5,645        5,353        5,780        4,399        4,473        4,359        4,372 
Armenia        1,833        2,591        6,317        4,351        3,586        3,442        2,979        2,983        2,681        2,722 
Aruba            31            42            51            55            36            38            49            39            54            45 
Australia        2,604        3,193        3,249        2,518        2,464        2,622        2,512        2,343        2,414        2,759 
Austria          402          532          524          485          443          512          442          424          407          415 
Azerbaijan          969        1,523        2,371        1,166        1,071          834          781          728          663          637 
Bahamas          586          698          847          738          682          751          652          668          619          630 
Bahrain          116          140          148          133            96          120          104          119          104          115 
Bangladesh        8,061      11,487      14,644      12,074      11,753      16,651      14,819      16,707      14,705      12,099 
Barbados          630          846          959          689          585          603          465          455          460          428 
Belarus        2,255        3,503        3,086        2,328        2,390        2,407        2,038        1,964        1,659        1,970 
Belgium          638          859          716          638          642          686          592          567          574          675 
Belize          871          876        1,252        1,073        1,077        1,041          965          905          847          946 
Benin          185          193          275          258          317          401          486          462          415          342 
Bermuda          100          116          160          108            92          108            72            71            85            88 
Bhutan            17            30            78            52            42          594        6,109      10,137      10,198        8,954 
Bolivia        1,768        2,197        4,025        2,590        2,436        2,837        2,253        2,173        1,948        2,071 
Bosnia-Herzegovina      10,552      14,074        3,789        1,569        1,491        1,501          946          878          815          697 
Botswana            34            54            53            49            41            55            66            76            80            53 
Brazil      10,556      16,662      17,903      14,295      12,195      14,701      12,258      11,763      11,441      11,033 
British Virgin Islands            35            41            47            40            53            46            46            37            39            45 
Brunei            22            49            25            32            18            26            20            25            19            21 
Bulgaria        4,253        5,635        4,828        3,981        2,960        3,133        2,570        2,661        2,440        2,844 
Burkina Faso          103          128          221          238          238          416          377          433          558          585 
Burma        1,379        2,095        4,562        3,130        3,403      13,621      12,925      16,518      17,383      12,565 
Burundi          100          186          320          257          255        1,505          841          593          535          260 
Cambodia        3,553        4,022        5,773        4,246        3,713        3,771        2,986        2,745        2,473        2,624 
Cameroon        1,309        1,458        2,919        3,392        3,771        3,463        4,161        4,754        3,815        3,908 
Canada      15,569      21,878      18,207      15,495      15,109      16,140      13,328      12,800      12,932      13,181 
Cape Verde        1,015        1,225        1,780        2,048        1,916        2,238        1,668        1,808        1,684        1,673 
Cayman Islands            38            37            65            40            37            45            52            41            44            44 
Central African Republic            17            24            51            52            88          107          101          134          116          213 
Chad            23            31            73            74            96          102          120          171          155          111 
Chile        1,810        2,404        2,774        2,274        2,017        2,250        1,950        1,853        1,673        1,736 
China, People's Republic      55,494      69,933      87,307      76,655      80,271      64,238      70,863      87,016      81,784      71,798 
Colombia      18,846      25,566      43,144      33,187      30,213      27,849      22,406      22,635      20,931      21,131 
Comoros              4              6              7              7 D  D  D               8            10              3 
Congo, Democratic Republic          155          260          738        1,129        1,261        2,122        1,764        2,424        3,731        2,792 
Congo, Republic          670        1,064        1,600          972          950        1,563          968        1,371        1,461        1,059 
Costa Rica        1,755        2,278        3,109        2,540        2,090        2,384        2,164        2,135        2,020        2,114 
Cote d'Ivoire          666          930        2,067        1,193        1,645        2,159        1,621        1,302        1,760        1,486 
Croatia        1,511        1,780          945          482          455          496          357          349          336          353 
Cuba      20,488      36,261      45,614      29,104      49,500      38,954      33,573      36,452      32,820      32,219 
Cyprus          143          196          180          137          141          142          122          101          107          126 
Czech Republic          457          476          344          287          227          146          190          303          677          676 
Czechoslovakia (former)          673          784        1,442          927          862          865          750          466          159            74 
Denmark          566          718          699          517          498          603          518          459          459          506 
Djibouti            37            50            34            23            39            54            37            56          106            90 
Dominica          132          198          471          428          454          484          366          287          125          244 
Dominican Republic      30,506      27,503      38,068      28,024      31,879      49,414      53,870      46,109      41,566      41,311 
Ecuador        8,626      11,608      17,489      12,248      11,663      12,128      11,492      11,103        9,342      10,591 
Egypt        5,522        7,905      10,500        9,267        8,712        8,844        8,978        7,778        8,988      10,294 
El Salvador      29,807      21,359      31,782      21,127      19,659      19,909      18,806      18,667      16,256      18,260 
Equatorial Guinea            13            10            13              4            16            32            12            13            20            18 
Eritrea          675          796        1,593        1,081        1,270        1,928        1,656        2,102        2,643        2,138 
Estonia          322          438          423          368          287          282          260          191          227          211 
Ethiopia        8,286      10,571      16,152      12,786      12,917      15,462      14,266      13,793      14,544      13,097 
Fiji        1,593        1,422        2,115        1,637        1,176        1,194        1,201        1,041          853          895 
Finland          388          574          542          426          302          423          397          363          348          331 
France        3,688        4,496        4,357        3,494        4,935        4,569        3,919        3,653        3,862        4,425 
French Polynesia            13            19            37            27            26            30            16            21            30 -  
Gabon            50            66            85            95            82          171          138          204          197          127 
Gambia          422          581          897          826          739          978          859          972        1,159        1,018 
Georgia          964        1,389        2,003        1,554        1,620        1,578        1,518        1,490        1,341        1,368 
Germany        7,099        9,264        8,436        7,582        7,091        7,583        6,888        6,125        5,812        6,032 
Ghana        5,337        6,491        9,367        7,610        8,195        8,401        7,429        8,798      10,592      10,265 
Greece          769        1,070        1,124          882          769          798          745          949        1,054        1,361 
Grenada          609          840        1,068          751          784          748          664          579          671          687 
Guatemala      18,920      16,818      24,133      17,908      16,182      12,187      10,467      11,092      10,341      10,224 
Guinea          347          495        1,110        1,088        1,735        1,725        1,379        1,555        1,656        1,518 
Guinea-Bissau              5            26            25            25            17            20            30            29            47            43 
Guyana        6,351        9,317        9,552        5,726        6,823        6,670        6,749        6,599        5,683        5,897 
Haiti      14,191      14,524      22,226      30,405      26,007      24,280      22,582      22,111      22,818      20,351 
Honduras        5,508        7,012        8,177        7,646        6,540        6,404        6,448        6,133        6,884        8,898 
Hong Kong        3,951        3,705        3,256        3,527        3,373        2,651        2,432        2,306        2,104        2,226 
Hungary        1,272        1,567        1,704        1,266        1,127        1,314        1,022        1,044        1,054        1,052 
Iceland          105          135          145            95          122          131          105            90          103          139 
India      70,151      84,680      61,369      65,353      63,352      57,304      69,162      69,013      66,434      68,458 
Indonesia        2,419        3,924        4,868        3,716        3,606        3,679        3,032        2,856        2,603        2,731 
Iran      10,434      13,887      13,947      10,460      13,852      18,553      14,182      14,822      12,916      12,863 
Iraq        3,494        4,077        4,337        3,765        4,795      12,110      19,855      21,133      20,369        9,552 
Ireland        1,531        2,088        1,906        1,503        1,465        1,637        1,507        1,371        1,514        1,626 
Israel        4,160        5,755        5,943        4,496        5,851        5,612        4,515        3,826        4,153        3,996 
Italy        2,346        3,066        3,215        2,569        2,514        2,892        2,579        2,443        2,673        2,960 
Jamaica      14,430      18,345      24,976      19,375      18,477      21,783      19,825      19,662      20,705      19,400 
Japan        7,697        8,768        8,265        6,748        6,821        7,690        6,264        6,161        6,061        5,925 
Jordan        3,431        3,748        4,038        3,917        3,936        4,282        3,868        3,876        4,099        4,188 
Kazakhstan        1,906        2,223        2,073        1,604        1,630        1,562        1,282        1,235        1,202        1,241 
Kenya        5,335        5,347        8,779        7,030        6,998        9,880        7,421        7,762        7,043        6,123 
Kiribati D               4              8            10              4            10              6 D               6              3 
Korea, North NA  NA  NA  NA  NA             67            35            36            49            48 
Korea, South1      19,766      26,562      24,386      22,405      26,666      25,859      22,227      22,824      20,846      23,166 
Kosovo X  X  X  X  -  -           355          670          782          839 
Kuwait        1,091        1,152        1,230        1,017        1,104        1,124        1,037          973        1,044          937 
Kyrgyzstan          439          656          785          597          632          574          507          542          648          652 
Laos        1,147        1,242        2,892        2,575        2,198        1,688        1,200          956          949          923 
Latvia          605          768          892          568          455          444          435          426          436          424 
Lebanon        3,818        4,282        4,083        4,267        4,254        3,831        3,487        3,295        2,879        2,783 
Lesotho            14            12            18            14            16            14            23            25            17            20 
Liberia        2,757        4,880        6,887        4,102        7,193        7,641        4,837        4,151        4,109        3,334 
Libya          185          223          271          186          285          296          355          357          315          376 
Lithuania        2,480        2,417        1,885        1,361          967        1,069          985          936          924          854 
Luxembourg            13            35            28            39            28            30            22            24            19            40 
Macau          192          133          189          178          205          158          143          130          120          106 
Macedonia          775        1,070        1,317        1,227        1,107        1,128          963        1,078          906          895 
Madagascar            54            60            72            53            77            71            80            83            79            95 
Malawi            83          131          131          123          133          164          164          123          192          159 
Malaysia        1,987        2,632        2,281        2,149        1,945        2,014        1,714        2,273        2,605        2,477 
Mali          163          277          408          412          523          576          528          629          734          667 
Malta            57            74            70            53            66            58            74            51            62            43 
Marshall Islands            48            32            53            48            39            48            37            38            50            46 
Mauritania          170          275          720          651          844          597          495          393          410          354 
Mauritius            65            99          108            88            83          110            84          101            77            83 
Mexico    175,411    161,445    173,749    148,640    189,989    164,920    139,120    143,446    146,406    135,028 
Micronesia, Federated States              5              6            12              7            13            16            10              9            13              4 
Moldova        1,507        3,506        3,036        1,356        1,692        2,295        1,981        2,258        2,021        2,485 
Monaco              7              7              4              6              7              4            12              6              5              8 
Mongolia          229          323          497          530          659          831          594          774          691          729 
Montenegro X  X  X  -  -  -           120          204          265          265 
Montserrat            33            50            90            66            61            43            27            30            27 -  
Morocco        4,128        4,411        4,949        4,513        4,425        5,447        5,013        4,399        3,656        3,336 
Mozambique            59            54            78            81            69            66            53            60            94            73 
Namibia            40            63            56            57            46            53            60            43            59            57 
Nepal        2,878        3,158        3,733        3,472        4,093        4,514        7,115      10,166      11,312      13,046 
Netherlands        1,303        1,815        1,651        1,368        1,240        1,499        1,321        1,085        1,091        1,142 
Netherlands Antilles            72          116          100            93            78            97            77            86          106          128 
New Caledonia D               5              7              5              5            13              6              5 D               6 
New Zealand        1,131        1,293        1,100        1,047          893          947          919          803          814          921 
Nicaragua        4,009        3,305        4,145        3,716        3,614        4,137        3,565        3,401        3,046        3,048 
Niger            62          126          116            97          107          183            96            96            48            37 
Nigeria        9,374      10,597      13,459      12,448      12,475      15,253      13,376      11,824      13,575      13,840 
Norway          405          423          481          343          350          407          334          339          276          335 
Oman          122          101          155          103            70            74            63            60            74            73 
Pakistan      12,086      14,926      17,418      13,492      19,719      21,555      18,258      15,546      14,740      13,251 
Palau              6              8              8            11              6            16            18              7            10            16 
Panama        1,417        1,815        2,418        1,916        1,678        1,806        1,536        1,374        1,281        1,234 
Papua New Guinea            19            44            30            31            15            19            30            20            21            27 
Paraguay          328          516          719          545          481          530          467          500          467          448 
Peru      11,794      15,676      21,718      17,699      15,184      16,957      14,247      14,064      12,609      12,564 
Philippines      57,846      60,746      74,606      72,596      54,030      60,029      58,173      57,011      57,327      54,446 
Poland      14,326      15,351      17,051      10,355        8,354        8,754        7,643        6,863        6,300        6,430 
Portugal        1,069        1,125        1,409        1,019          772          946          755          821          811          918 
Qatar          125          174          226          138          151          134          148          193          141          191 
Romania        4,571        7,103        7,137        5,802        4,930        4,910        4,003        3,882        3,748        3,773 
Russia      17,410      18,055      13,159        9,426      11,695        8,238        6,718        7,944        9,969        9,753 
Rwanda          163          276          502          357          378          952          489          520          592          540 
Saint Kitts-Nevis          299          342          458          347          363          310          339          350          311          259 
Saint Lucia          616          832        1,212          928          946        1,027          872          785          919          853 
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines          400          625          756          567          568          591          576          468          503          529 
Samoa          203          173          283          290          227          250          219          267          238          237 
Sao Tome and Principe              9              8              6              7              7            11            10              9            12              6 
Saudi Arabia          906        1,210        1,542        1,171        1,194        1,418        1,263        1,396        1,343        1,463 
Senegal          769          913        1,367        1,024        1,149        1,524        1,285        1,424        1,615        1,340 
Serbia X  X  X  -  -  -             20          244          704          866 
Serbia and Montenegro        3,331        5,202        5,891        3,586        3,255        3,166        2,196        1,398          801          653 
Seychelles            25            16            15              7            16            10              8            15              7              6 
Sierra Leone        1,596        2,731        3,572        1,999        2,795        2,687        2,011        1,985        1,688        1,651 
Singapore          966        1,204          997          985          922          832          774          690          712          835 
Slovakia          800          965        1,111          763          653          706          538          594          528          507 
Slovenia            88          114          115            87            79          108            74            69            86            62 
Solomon Islands              6              3              5            10              7 D               6 D  D               3 
Somalia        3,929        5,829        9,462        6,251      10,745      13,390        4,558        4,451        5,204        3,764 
South Africa        3,370        4,536        3,201        2,988        2,723        3,171        2,758        2,649        2,781        2,629 
South SudanXXXXXXX -             17            59 
Soviet Union (former)          929        2,899        6,229        5,090        5,270        5,911        4,978        3,687        1,296        1,264 
Spain        1,339        1,888        1,971        1,578        1,621        1,769        1,684        1,890        1,842        2,480 
Sri Lanka        1,431        1,894        2,191        1,831        1,935        2,009        2,036        2,053        1,994        1,847 
Sudan        3,211        5,231        5,504        2,930        3,598        3,577        2,397        2,628        2,471        1,945 
Suriname          166          300          314          197          218          227          216          196          187          178 
Swaziland            15            16            11            13            18            42            22            19            24            15 
Sweden        1,270        1,517        1,376        1,145        1,019        1,138        1,097          979          968        1,106 
Switzerland          855        1,092          983          705          720          798          675          615          635          697 
Syria        2,256        2,831        2,918        2,385        2,641        2,442        2,555        2,785        3,014        3,366 
Taiwan        9,005        9,196        8,086        8,990        9,073        8,038        6,732        6,154        5,331        5,385 
Tajikistan          167          207          239          172          231          265          299          382          411          550 
Tanzania          747          829          949          832          838        2,773        1,850        1,427        1,516          837 
Thailand        4,318        5,505      11,749        8,751        6,637      10,444        9,384        9,962        9,459        7,583 
Togo        2,041        1,523        1,720        1,565        1,661        1,680        1,563        1,506        1,756        1,257 
Tonga          327          309          437          438          365          379          343          408          276          348 
Trinidad and Tobago        5,384        6,568        8,854        6,829        5,937        6,256        5,435        5,023        5,214        4,724 
Tunisia          457          495          510          417          410          416          418          440          422          445 
Turkey        3,835        4,614        4,941        4,425        4,210        4,958        4,483        4,403        4,162        4,144 
Turkmenistan          117          148          248          217          274          290          224          260          223          210 
Turks and Caicos Islands            28            34            52            31            35            31            29            33            30            50 
U.S. Virgin Islands            13              8              7              3 D               3 D  D  D  D  
Uganda          721          858        1,372        1,122        1,174        1,364        1,085        1,239        1,340        1,350 
Ukraine      14,156      22,745      17,140      11,001      10,813      11,223        8,477        8,292        7,642        8,193 
United Arab Emirates          586          812        1,006          758          693          697          779          707          854          910 
United Kingdom      14,915      19,800      17,207      14,545      14,348      15,748      12,792      11,572      12,014      12,984 
United States            57          183          333          171          216          181          201          269          279          319 
Uruguay          787        1,154        1,664        1,418        1,451        1,775        1,331        1,553        1,374        1,352 
Uzbekistan        1,995        2,887        4,015        4,665        6,375        5,467        4,770        5,056        4,726        4,382 
Venezuela        6,220      10,645      11,341      10,692      10,514      11,154        9,409        9,183        9,387        9,572 
Vietnam      31,524      32,784      30,691      28,691      31,497      29,234      30,632      34,157      28,304      27,101 
Yemen        1,760        3,366        4,308        2,396        1,872        3,134        3,591        3,361        2,620        3,532 
Zambia          359          499          672          576          613          704          628          652          643          505 
Zimbabwe          628          923        1,049        1,057          953          983        1,274        1,016          914          924 
All other countries31483429243929282630 
Unknown3,2275,3032,7341,3941,3941,3661,3301,2451,2063,263 
NA Not available.           
X Not applicable.           
- Represents zero.           
1  Data for South Korea prior to Fiscal Year 2009 include a small number of cases from North Korea.       
Source: U.S. Department of Homeland Security.          
            


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Posted: Jul 21, 2014 - 9:27pm

 kurtster wrote:

Rant warning ...

Dingy Harry says unequivocally that our border is secure ...  

  ....

Yet we are being invaded.  Its so bad that Obama has called the leaders of 3 Central American countries from where the bulk of these invaders originate.  But he has left out Mexico, who is facilitating this invasion.  Without the help of Mexico, this would not be happening on the scale that it presently is.  Why bother meeting at all.  This invasion is not the result of the law passed under Bush dealing with the specifics of the sex trade in children as so many of the left claim.  If that was true, this would have begun 6 years ago.  The truth of the matter is that Obama is responsible because of his 2012 executive order end run around Congress with his Dream Act.

Because Obama is so clueless or is actually covertly wanting this invasion, Gov. Perry of Texas is doing what Obama refuses to do.  I do not agree with everything Perry  stands for, but on this I say thank you for doing what Obama missed in his job description as POTUS.  Just in the past couple of days our Border Patrol agents have come under .50 caliber machine gun fire.

The claim that these children are escaping unparalleled violence is bullshit when all one has to do is look to Obama's home town of Chicago for something comparable.  Let's see Holder sue Gov Perry for calling out the Guard.  The governor and the people of Texas are ponying up $12 million a month to do what Obama as CIC is required to do by our Constitution.  Thank you Gov Perry and the good people of Texas for doing what is necessary.

Perry to deploy 1000 National Guard troops to the border

Perry sending National Guard troops to border
 (some) my bolds.
Dingy Harry?  Well I guess he just has to follow the great leader Speaker Boehner's example. Name calling is, unfortunately, one of your typical cheap shots. That trait devalues your commentary.
An invasion of children?  Guess we better man the borders!

Get a f'n clue. Your bile is riling me. Your cherry picking of facts, half facts, and perverted implicity, and innuendo is baffling.  If the BP was truly under any kind of threat, much less .50 caliber fire, there would be an "in kind" response.  And that would have nothing to do w/Obama.

What is the Texas National Guard going to do? Shoot kids? That move is all about Perry for Prez politics.  The border is porous (so is it with Canada), always has been. They (nat'l guard) cannot block it.  And if they could, you gonna deny humanity to children? Certainly part of the problem is Mexico. As it is all of the origin countries too, even more. Why do you think parents, who certainly love their children, send them North and on a very perilous journey? Bcs life is better here.  Is it such a bad idea to share it?  See Gov. Duval Patrick's response (of MA, of course).

The kids immediately surrender to the INS/Border Patrol. This is a complex problem. Not solvable by demagoguery, it will require humanity, empathy and generosity, along with political and pragmatic concerns.
You post prolifically.  Too bad your posts don't reflect sound thinking, imo. Baffling, bcs once they did. {#Stupid}

And, as always, as is absolutely predictable, you worked in "Obama's fault" in some way. {#Wall}
You have become a troll.  Have you even noticed?
I don't want a response (guarantees I'll get one) bcs you have gone from thinking and provocative to "tea-party speak" and boring.  But your misstatements and mistaken statements, and what you imply as logical conclusions, require a response.

I wish you well personally.  But your vitriol is becoming poisonous. It is not humanitarian, imo.  You are not generous to your fellow humans (children, in this case) on the planet.
Good bye (for about the ninth time).


kurtster

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Posted: Jul 21, 2014 - 9:27pm

Glenn Beck and his listeners have raised over $ 2 million to help care for the illegal children that Obama is encouraging to migrate here with the promises of his Dream Act.

What are the good people of the American left doing ?


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