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hayduke2

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Posted: Jul 5, 2020 - 4:20pm


rgio

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Posted: Jul 2, 2020 - 8:01am



 miamizsun wrote:


the powers that be have had access to money (spending has gone way up)

but i think results aren't reflecting that

it would be hard for me to say to parents "sorry, just hold on and we'll get it right" or "sorry, you don't have a choice right now because..."


meanwhile they are stuck

regards
 
Agreed, but the discussion isn't around THE choice of where to send your kids... it's about CREATING the choice for something versus changing the existing institutions.   I

Voting "FOR" a charter doesn't promise a parent something better, it merely presents an opportunity to try something else if you feel the current situation isn't working.

As we can all see everyday, change isn't always an improvement, and occassionally has tragic results.

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Posted: Jul 2, 2020 - 6:46am

 rgio wrote:

The results from Charter schools are mixed.  Many have higher performance, many do not. 

There are reasons that companies merge but rarely break up successfully...adding administration rarely improves performance.  If the kids with involved parents all move to a charter school and those with disinterested or missing parents all stay in the local school, the scores of the kids in the charter school are going to be higher.  Are they higher because of the school, or is it that you have isolated the better students who skew the averages "for" the charter and "against"  their old school.  In fact, they may actually be getting less of an education, but the statistics show in favor of charter because they are starting with more intelligent children. 

States with higher numbers of charter schools are generally those with the weakest performance.  Many states need real investment in schooling...but I don't see that happening any time soon with all of the tax increases on the horizon to pay for our disastrous COVID response.

The answer isn't enabling some to move, it's fixing the broken system.  We're all paying for them, and we need to support those who are struggling so they can be productive, happy members of society as adults.  Leaving behind those who struggle with family and educational issues at a young age is going to cost everyone a lot more than fixing the schools.  That said....Florida is

 

the powers that be have had access to money (spending has gone way up)

but i think results aren't reflecting that

it would be hard for me to say to parents "sorry, just hold on and we'll get it right" or "sorry, you don't have a choice right now because..."

meanwhile they are stuck

regards
rgio

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Posted: Jul 1, 2020 - 2:20pm



 miamizsun wrote:

however, if you're an inner city parent and you don't want to send your child to the local school (pick a reason)

should they have a choice? or should they be forced to stay in what they may see as an inferior education experience?

something to think about

peace
 
The results from Charter schools are mixed.  Many have higher performance, many do not. 

There are reasons that companies merge but rarely break up successfully...adding administration rarely improves performance.  If the kids with involved parents all move to a charter school and those with disinterested or missing parents all stay in the local school, the scores of the kids in the charter school are going to be higher.  Are they higher because of the school, or is it that you have isolated the better students who skew the averages "for" the charter and "against"  their old school.  In fact, they may actually be getting less of an education, but the statistics show in favor of charter because they are starting with more intelligent children. 

States with higher numbers of charter schools are generally those with the weakest performance.  Many states need real investment in schooling...but I don't see that happening any time soon with all of the tax increases on the horizon to pay for our disastrous COVID response.

The answer isn't enabling some to move, it's fixing the broken system.  We're all paying for them, and we need to support those who are struggling so they can be productive, happy members of society as adults.  Leaving behind those who struggle with family and educational issues at a young age is going to cost everyone a lot more than fixing the schools.  That said....Florida is

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Posted: Jul 1, 2020 - 1:23pm

 cc_rider wrote:
Fair enough. It sounds like the program was pretty rotten. In Florida, of all places! Whodathunkit.

But without anything to replace it, how are students, already falling behind, going to keep up?

Some of this goes back to the issue of infrastructure, like internet access. Low-income folks are much less likely to be connected, especially at a speed high enough for distance learning/video.

BUT there's also the aspect of school privatization/choice/vouchers/charters that 'conservatives' (ha!) have pushed for decades.

Regardless, thanks for finding the rest of the story...
c.

 
the right is anything but conservative (well as long as money and/or votes are involved)

i'm thinking they might want to bust down teachers unions, something along those lines

my children are failing! defund the teachers! (joking)

however, if you're an inner city parent and you don't want to send your child to the local school (pick a reason)

should they have a choice? or should they be forced to stay in what they may see as an inferior education experience?

something to think about

peace
cc_rider

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Posted: Jul 1, 2020 - 12:44pm



 miamizsun wrote:


 cc_rider wrote:
 

i'm not in the loop on this, but like the article says, there's probably some sort of question/scandal regarding the folks in charge

i don't see him leaving people in the lurch on this, i'd look for a proposal soon

i think he's dropping common core and giving vouchers to those who want to get their children into better schools

pretty sure school choice/vouchers are a big deal with those stuck in bad schools (usually inner city)

and he's boosting teacher pay by $500,000,000 (especially new teachers)

edit: i saw this on a tampa news site





Oversight for the program comes from University of West Florida, which was on DeSantis’ radar since he called for an audit of the Complete Florida Plus Program last year.

In November 2019, DeSantis withheld $5 million from the university’s Complete Florida $23 million allocation until an audit of the program was complete.

In March of this year, the results of the audit were released, reporting that UWF withdrew nearly $2.4 million from the program’s fund without authorization.

The audit also found that the university did not keep records of the salaries and benefits of 125 employees, which totaled $11.9 million.

Thousands of students across the state are now scrambling for answers, especially as coronavirus cases continue to surge throughout Florida and students continue to depend more heavily on virtual learning.


 
Fair enough. It sounds like the program was pretty rotten. In Florida, of all places! Whodathunkit.

But without anything to replace it, how are students, already falling behind, going to keep up?

Some of this goes back to the issue of infrastructure, like internet access. Low-income folks are much less likely to be connected, especially at a speed high enough for distance learning/video.

BUT there's also the aspect of school privatization/choice/vouchers/charters that 'conservatives' (ha!) have pushed for decades.

Regardless, thanks for finding the rest of the story...
c.

miamizsun

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Posted: Jul 1, 2020 - 12:09pm



 cc_rider wrote:
 

i'm not in the loop on this, but like the article says, there's probably some sort of question/scandal regarding the folks in charge

i don't see him leaving people in the lurch on this, i'd look for a proposal soon

i think he's dropping common core and giving vouchers to those who want to get their children into better schools

pretty sure school choice/vouchers are a big deal with those stuck in bad schools (usually inner city)

and he's boosting teacher pay by $500,000,000 (especially new teachers)

edit: i saw this on a tampa news site





Oversight for the program comes from University of West Florida, which was on DeSantis’ radar since he called for an audit of the Complete Florida Plus Program last year.

In November 2019, DeSantis withheld $5 million from the university’s Complete Florida $23 million allocation until an audit of the program was complete.

In March of this year, the results of the audit were released, reporting that UWF withdrew nearly $2.4 million from the program’s fund without authorization.

The audit also found that the university did not keep records of the salaries and benefits of 125 employees, which totaled $11.9 million.

Thousands of students across the state are now scrambling for answers, especially as coronavirus cases continue to surge throughout Florida and students continue to depend more heavily on virtual learning.


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Posted: Jul 1, 2020 - 9:12am

https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2020/06/30/desantis-kills-online-learning-program-amid-virus-resurgence-1296178

WTAF?
c.
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Posted: Jun 10, 2020 - 8:42am

Florida Man arrested for encouraging 12-year-old to drive his SUV at 85mph, police say
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Posted: Feb 21, 2020 - 5:55pm

The city of Miami will begin trapping and relocating peacocks from one neighborhood after residents complained of slippery piles of poop, dive-bombing birds and screeching and squawking at all hours of the night.


Schizophrenic comment of a resident:

“They are a pest. They are noisy. They do poop. The poop is significant. And they are getting very aggressive over time,” Pat Tzakis, a resident of Miami’s Coconut Grove neighborhood, told the City Commission at a meeting this month. “When I moved into the neighborhood 25 years ago, they were mainly confined to 17th Avenue...now we have about 100 peacocks in our own neighborhood, which is small. They’re getting aggressive as they multiply. Please help us out in finding a solution for these magnificent creatures.”


~ Bot-sourced here, by the home of ever-deep-err 'journalism,' named DrudgeReport.
westslope

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Posted: Feb 3, 2020 - 5:06pm



 Red_Dragon wrote:
 

I am embarrassed to admit that I once did something similar on a friend's boat on the west coast of Vancouver Island.  Luckily the error was quickly identified.  (Dumbass......)  
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Feb 3, 2020 - 3:43pm

Florida Man Mistakenly Pumps Gas onto the Deck of His Boat
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Posted: Jan 24, 2020 - 5:31am

 sunybuny wrote:

 miamizsun wrote:

{#Lol}
 
OMG - if you only knew how true....   LMAO!!


 

they are everywhere in south florida and they get quite a bit of press

some of these can get up to 4-5 feet long and 15-20 lbs (godzilla-like)

and why hasn't anyone in the film industry done a horror series on a giant mutant iguana? (hey japan)
sunybuny

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Posted: Jan 24, 2020 - 5:23am



 miamizsun wrote:


{#Lol}
 
OMG - if you only knew how true....   LMAO!!


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Posted: Jan 24, 2020 - 4:59am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


 Red_Dragon wrote:
 

I was gonna order some fresh iguana meat from Florida, but in the fine print it says "previously frozen".
 

{#Lol}
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Jan 23, 2020 - 8:56pm



 Red_Dragon wrote:
 

I was gonna order some fresh iguana meat from Florida, but in the fine print it says "previously frozen".
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Posted: Jan 23, 2020 - 5:30pm

rgio

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Posted: Dec 13, 2019 - 9:02am



 miamizsun wrote:


about halfway there's a tower you can go up into and see some whopper dinosaurs in the pond/lake
it's hard to judge just how big they are, but they're usually....


...noticeably larger than most you'll see on the trail/loop
 
I sure hope so after that description!

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Posted: Dec 13, 2019 - 8:27am

I’m watching AKC.tv ... the national dock diving championships. My good friend and her two dogs are nationally ranked! Go Reesie and Saffron!
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Posted: Dec 13, 2019 - 7:14am



 kcar wrote:


 Proclivities wrote:
That "drop-off" scenario seems very likely.  I hope the gator's okay; if he starts showing up late for work there may be a problem.

 

As the article notes, the gator was trapped, killed and cut open. Mr. Meth's foot and hand were found inside. Apparently the animal attacked the man's body after he'd died.

Who would drop off a tweaker in swamp? And why? 

I don't know if 450 pounds and 12 feet is big for a gator, but that's 450 pounds and 12 feet too much for me. Cannot stand beasts like that.
 
I knew the gator was dissected, I was just speculating - based on the stories of salt water crocodiles in northern Australia that use Mandrax to relax their prey.  I was guessing that Mr. Meth was dumped there after having the bad manners to die in someone's car/trailer/flop-house.  They may have thought it would be easier to drop him out in the glades than to try to explain a dead guy to the cops.  It is Florida after all.

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