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miamizsun

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Posted: Aug 13, 2020 - 7:27pm


good interview

you should listen
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Posted: Aug 13, 2020 - 3:19pm

 miamizsun wrote:
is he european?

because if he is...
 
Maybe Swedish. But more probably Floridian.
In mid-May, asked about a model that projected more than 137,000 people dying of the disease by Aug. 4 (a projection that turned out to be optimistic), Atlas dismissed the focus on “sensationalistic modulations of a hypothetical projection model.”

“The curves have been flattened,” he said.

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Posted: Aug 13, 2020 - 3:16pm

 R_P wrote: 
i grazed the wapo article and i may have missed that death number

but i did see it in print here     
from the article

"On Wednesday, Florida reported 213 new coronavirus deaths. That brought its overall fatality total to 8,898 and its average daily deaths over the past week to 164. That’s down from the state’s peak rate of daily deaths of 185 a week ago. The peak rate for New York — a state of comparable population — was more than 760 in mid-April.

Also Wednesday, there were more than 8,100 new infections reported in Florida, for a total of 550,000 known cases in the state since the start of the pandemic.

The number of people treated in Florida hospitals for the virus continued a three-week downward trend, standing at 6,538 by late morning Wednesday — down from highs of more than 9,500.

Woods, the Marion County sheriff, said exceptions to his mask prohibition will be made for deputies at jails, schools, courthouses, hospitals, nursing homes and when dealing with someone who is elderly or has COVID-19. In these situations, the mask should be removed when giving orders or commands to comply, the sheriff said."


 i also looked at the actual deaths yesterday and there were 15  (apparently they're going through past deaths and counting those now)

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Posted: Aug 13, 2020 - 2:19pm

 R_P wrote:
Listen up, kids!
The misfit-in-chief found a "very famous man who's also very highly respected"
 
is he european?

because if he is...
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Posted: Aug 13, 2020 - 1:51pm

Listen up, kids!
The misfit-in-chief found a "very famous man who's also very highly respected"
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Posted: Aug 13, 2020 - 8:05am



 rgio wrote:


 Ohmsen wrote:
Contributing to an unbiased discussion... 2 articles from a Swedish physician on the forefront of the fight against Covid-19 ~ recommendable reading imho. 


 
Interesting reads.

Any discussion of Sweden requires an enormous amount of context.  There are suggestions that they underutilized their ICU capacity and literally "let" older Swedes die.  There is also a myth that because they never "closed", they have been immune to the financial impacts of the disease.  The Swedish economic impact is very similar to the impacts felt across Scandinavia and Northern Europe.

What's also ignored is that roughly 1/3rd of Swedes self-isolated (which helps to explain the financial bits).

All countries' management of this crisis is a combination of advice and compliance, but those are always implemented through cultural prisms.  Georgia and Michigan have treated these outbreaks very differently, but they are grouped as "The US".  Each has a population roughly equal to Sweden.   There are no right answers for everyone. 

Trust is the thing Swedes have that we don't.  Trust in each other, in their leaders, and in themselves.  We doubt everyone and everything.
 I don't think that's true...
 
c.


rgio

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Posted: Aug 13, 2020 - 5:54am



 Ohmsen wrote:
Contributing to an unbiased discussion... 2 articles from a Swedish physician on the forefront of the fight against Covid-19 ~ recommendable reading imho. 


 
Interesting reads.

Any discussion of Sweden requires an enormous amount of context.  There are suggestions that they underutilized their ICU capacity and literally "let" older Swedes die.  There is also a myth that because they never "closed", they have been immune to the financial impacts of the disease.  The Swedish economic impact is very similar to the impacts felt across Scandinavia and Northern Europe.

What's also ignored is that roughly 1/3rd of Swedes self-isolated (which helps to explain the financial bits).

All countries' management of this crisis is a combination of advice and compliance, but those are always implemented through cultural prisms.  Georgia and Michigan have treated these outbreaks very differently, but they are grouped as "The US".  Each has a population roughly equal to Sweden.   There are no right answers for everyone. 

Trust is the thing Swedes have that we don't.  Trust in each other, in their leaders, and in themselves.  We doubt everyone and everything.
Ohmsen

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Posted: Aug 13, 2020 - 1:22am

Contributing to an unbiased discussion... 2 articles from a Swedish physician on the forefront of the fight against Covid-19 ~ recommendable reading imho. 


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Posted: Aug 12, 2020 - 7:24pm

‘This is no longer a debate’: Florida sheriff bans deputies, visitors from wearing masks
kurtster

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Posted: Aug 12, 2020 - 6:10pm

 Steely_D wrote:


 kurtster wrote:
 

Fogging my glasses is the only issue I have with them.
 
 
Having originated in the Bay Area, I know fog.  And then you go south and get Tule fog.

All terrible to drive in.  Glasses fog is different.  But glasses fog is also terrible for driving, too.

There we have it.
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Posted: Aug 12, 2020 - 3:00pm



 rgio wrote:
So I feel like I've heard every data point and projection there is on COVID....until just now.

Kamala Harris said something in her first presumptive VP appearance that I was shocked by....an American has died every 80 seconds since the start of the Pandemic (the first lockdown I assume).   My initial reaction was no...but...

If you take the first stay at home order in the US (California - March 19), you get about 145 days.  There are 165,000 dead, which equals about 1138 per day on average, or 47.4 per hour.   That's 1.26 minutes per death (about 76 seconds).

My math is quick and dirty...but the number seems right.  That's an amazing way to think about what we've been going through for 5 months...someone dies every 80 seconds.  Hell...3 or 4 more died in the time it took me to write this. 

 


rgio

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Posted: Aug 12, 2020 - 2:41pm

So I feel like I've heard every data point and projection there is on COVID....until just now.

Kamala Harris said something in her first presumptive VP appearance that I was shocked by....an American has died every 80 seconds since the start of the Pandemic (the first lockdown I assume).   My initial reaction was no...but...

If you take the first stay at home order in the US (California - March 19), you get about 145 days.  There are 165,000 dead, which equals about 1138 per day on average, or 47.4 per hour.   That's 1.26 minutes per death (about 76 seconds).

My math is quick and dirty...but the number seems right.  That's an amazing way to think about what we've been going through for 5 months...someone dies every 80 seconds.  Hell...3 or 4 more died in the time it took me to write this. 

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Posted: Aug 12, 2020 - 11:18am


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Posted: Aug 12, 2020 - 10:37am



 Red_Dragon wrote:
 

What?

Wisconsin’s Department of Natural Resources announced last week that its employees are required to wear masks at home during Zoom calls.
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Posted: Aug 12, 2020 - 10:06am


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Posted: Aug 12, 2020 - 8:31am

insanity
miamizsun

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Posted: Aug 12, 2020 - 5:14am

edit: cheap east tests for the masses are possible

rapidtests.org


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Posted: Aug 11, 2020 - 4:09pm



 kurtster wrote:
 

Fogging my glasses is the only issue I have with them.
 


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Posted: Aug 11, 2020 - 2:34pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
Our school district bought 5000 "neck gaiters" to issue to students (the schools will collect them as students leave the building and issue clean ones the next morning). This preliminary study by Duke University says they may be worse than no mask. Caveat: lots of people are doubling the gaiters and that's how our school superintendent demonstrates their use, so maybe a double layer is enough to get them back in the plus column? 

I do think that if the fabric of the gaiter or bandanna is pulled tight, it's more likely to have problems. Not sure how they're tested at Duke. My winter UnderArmour neck gaiter is tight and I can imagine it having problems, but the cheapo gaiters I have in my back pocket right now hang loose and I can feel the difference in airflow, almost like a face shield... down past my chin onto my shirt, really. Same with the bandanna I sometimes wear.

At any rate, I ordered in some new masks from Keen since the family absconded with the ones they sent me a couple of months ago.
 
Thanks.  I'll stay with my surgical masks.  Still working with my supply from my transplant daze. 

Fogging my glasses is the only issue I have with them.
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Aug 11, 2020 - 2:05pm



 Lazy8 wrote:
ScottFromWyoming wrote:
Our school district bought 5000 "neck gaiters" to issue to students (the schools will collect them as students leave the building and issue clean ones the next morning). This preliminary study by Duke University says they may be worse than no mask. Caveat: lots of people are doubling the gaiters and that's how our school superintendent demonstrates their use, so maybe a double layer is enough to get them back in the plus column? 

I do think that if the fabric of the gaiter or bandanna is pulled tight, it's more likely to have problems. Not sure how they're tested at Duke. My winter UnderArmour neck gaiter is tight and I can imagine it having problems, but the cheapo gaiters I have in my back pocket right now hang loose and I can feel the difference in airflow, almost like a face shield... down past my chin onto my shirt, really. Same with the bandanna I sometimes wear.

At any rate, I ordered in some new masks from Keen since the family absconded with the ones they sent me a couple of months ago.

This is terrific work, tho harder to interpret than it may seem. If they're right about fleece breaking large droplets up into smaller ones that isn't necessarily bad—small droplets evaporate faster than large ones, and large ones travel farther. In an outdoor setting with distance between people that may be preferable to no mask at all. The large error bars on the measurement make the data hard to interpret as well, but that's life with aerosols.
 

They do stipulate that there are many variables that need to be tested. Also, I just saw an ad that specified their mask design holds the mask away from the nose and mouth. So I'm assuming the point is to *not* exhale forcefully through the fabric but to deflect the droplets. If their test didn't account for that, then... hey.

I'll hang onto my neck gaiters for now.
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