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Posted: Jul 28, 2020 - 3:58pm

We Can No Longer Afford the Military-Industrial Complex
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Posted: Jul 21, 2020 - 8:09am



 R_P wrote:
"The team hasn’t yet decided on a new mascot but says it will include the military in its new name."
 Apparently 'Red Tails' is in the running. Not bad...
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Posted: Jul 20, 2020 - 6:43pm



 R_P wrote:
"The team hasn’t yet decided on a new mascot but says it will include the military in its new name."
 
The Washington Paramilitary?

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Posted: Jul 20, 2020 - 6:15pm

"The team hasn’t yet decided on a new mascot but says it will include the military in its new name."
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Posted: Jul 15, 2020 - 2:54pm



 R_P wrote:
Let’s Defund the Pentagon, Too
We must begin moving beyond militarism, as Martin Luther King urged more than 50 years ago
 

And as Eisenhower warned about.

In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.

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Posted: Jul 15, 2020 - 1:11pm



 R_P wrote:
Let’s Defund the Pentagon, Too
We must begin moving beyond militarism, as Martin Luther King urged more than 50 years ago
 

hear, hear
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Posted: Jul 15, 2020 - 12:52pm

Let’s Defund the Pentagon, Too
We must begin moving beyond militarism, as Martin Luther King urged more than 50 years ago
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Posted: Jun 14, 2020 - 8:02pm

  
Still relevant.
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Posted: Jun 14, 2020 - 11:30am

George Floyd’s Murder May Finally End the Army’s Fealty to Defeated Confederate Traitors
The men for whom the Army bases were named were passionate advocates of a slavocracy and often incompetent military leaders.
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Posted: Feb 19, 2020 - 11:39am

West Point Prof Pens Blistering Takedown of U.S. Military Academies
There's a reason, Tim Bakken says, why the U.S. hasn't won a war in 75 years.
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Posted: Feb 3, 2020 - 2:37pm



No bolshevic, socialits leftism intended... because the military matters: One and Two
R_P

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Posted: Feb 2, 2020 - 12:30am

Oh noes
Bernie Sanders Leads Trump, All 2020 Candidates in Donations From Active-Duty Troops
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Posted: Nov 9, 2019 - 6:20pm



 Lazy8 wrote:
.....

If an entire country is converted to this kind of regime your option to opt out is gone, at least without fleeing the country. Assuming they'll let you out.
 

OK.  Guess I have not been to those rich western countries yet.  I did not know that people could not resign from the military in western countries.
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Posted: Nov 9, 2019 - 6:19pm



 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


 westslope wrote:


 
OFFS?   What the hell does that mean?


 

Allow me to introduce you to the internet.
 

LOL!   Guess I did not spend enough time searching and clicking.
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Posted: Nov 7, 2019 - 6:07pm

westslope wrote:
Lazy8, I reckon the author implicitly covered the ability to resign from the military and being left alone by referring to the democratic socialism model.    Unless you know of  social democracies that prevent you from resigning from the military?   If you, please name them.  

Or do you prefer see the world in polarized ideological terms?

No, not covered at all.

Once enough of your neighbors vote for chains you get chains. Whoopie, it was democratic, so shut up and wait in line for your rations.

The military (now that the draft is—at least for now—gone) is a bit of a tradeoff: you put up with rigid regimentation and the forfeiting of every imaginable freedom (up to and including your life) in exchange for a paternalistic system that takes care of you. At least as it defines "care". But you can opt out and resume a life you are in control of.

If an entire country is converted to this kind of regime your option to opt out is gone, at least without fleeing the country. Assuming they'll let you out.
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Posted: Nov 7, 2019 - 4:11pm



 westslope wrote:


 
OFFS?   What the hell does that mean?


 

Allow me to introduce you to the internet.
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Posted: Nov 7, 2019 - 4:00pm



 Lazy8 wrote:
R_P wrote:
The US Military Is a Socialist Organization
Affordable housing and food, tuition assistance, and universal health care are hallmarks of a social welfare system—and life in the armed forces.

OFFS: you can resign from the military and it will leave you alone.


On the other hand: top-down control, rigid hierarchy, intolerance of working outside official channels. To the extent the analogy holds...greeeeeat model for society as a whole.
 
Good piece R_P. 

OFFS?   What the hell does that mean?

Lazy8, I reckon the author implicitly covered the ability to resign from the military and being left alone by referring to the democratic socialism model.    Unless you know of  social democracies that prevent you from resigning from the military?   If you, please name them.  

Or do you prefer see the world in polarized ideological terms?  

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Posted: Nov 7, 2019 - 3:34pm

R_P wrote:
The US Military Is a Socialist Organization
Affordable housing and food, tuition assistance, and universal health care are hallmarks of a social welfare system—and life in the armed forces.

OFFS: you can resign from the military and it will leave you alone.

On the other hand: top-down control, rigid hierarchy, intolerance of working outside official channels. To the extent the analogy holds...greeeeeat model for society as a whole.
R_P

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Posted: Nov 7, 2019 - 3:09pm

The US Military Is a Socialist Organization
Affordable housing and food, tuition assistance, and universal health care are hallmarks of a social welfare system—and life in the armed forces.
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Posted: Oct 30, 2019 - 1:43pm

Killing Me Softly With Militarism: The Decay Of Democracy In America
What do I mean by softer forms of militarism? I’m a football fan, so one recent Sunday afternoon found me watching an NFL game on CBS. People deplore violence in such games, and rightly so, given the number of injuries among the players, notably concussions that debilitate lives. But what about violent commercials during the game? In that one afternoon, I noted repetitive commercials for SEAL Team, SWAT, and FBI, all CBS shows from this quietly militarized American moment of ours. In other words, I was exposed to lots of guns, explosions, fisticuffs, and the like, but more than anything I was given glimpses of hard men (and a woman or two) in uniform who have the very answers we need and, like the Pentagon-supplied police in Ferguson, Missouri, in 2014, are armed to the teeth. (“Models with guns,” my wife calls them.)

Got a situation in Nowhere-stan? Send in the Navy SEALs. Got a murderer on the loose? Send in the SWAT team. With their superior weaponry and can-do spirit, Special Forces of every sort are sure to win the day (except, of course, when they don’t, as in America’s current series of never-ending wars in distant lands). (...)

Besides TV shows, movies, and commercials, there are many signs of the increasing embrace of militarized values and attitudes in this country.  The result: the acceptance of a military in places where it shouldn’t be, one that’s over-celebrated, over-hyped, and given far too much money and cultural authority, while becoming virtually immune to serious criticism.

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