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ScottFromWyoming wrote:
It's interesting to note that the MAGAs around here disavow the NRA as being a liberal stronghold.
I was once part of that camp.
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ScottFromWyoming

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Aug 15, 2022 - 7:24pm |
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Red_Dragon wrote:
It's interesting to note that the MAGAs around here disavow the NRA as being a liberal stronghold.
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Red_Dragon


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R_P


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So much virtue, so little space.
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Red_Dragon


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haresfur

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Jul 26, 2022 - 5:45pm |
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ScottFromWyoming wrote:
A new California gun law should force the Supreme Court to confront the enormity of its worst decision in decades.
"That is, of course, assuming that this increasingly political Supreme Court cares about consistency."
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ScottFromWyoming

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Jul 26, 2022 - 11:56am |
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A new California gun law should force the Supreme Court to confront the enormity of its worst decision in decades.
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haresfur

Location: The Golden Triangle Gender:  
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Jul 25, 2022 - 7:35pm |
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ScottFromWyoming wrote:
I'm not defending it, but in this case it's only peripherally about guns. It's Newsom playing his cards across state lines to deliver some unintended consequences to the pro-lifers who thought they were so smart. Maybe the thought is that Texas will go "oh shit!" and drop their law. Your last comment illustrates how that will work out.
The other possibility is that they say, "See, everyone is doing it, must be ok." Overall, I think the republicans are happy to let the country devolve as long as they can control the sparsely populated states.
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ScottFromWyoming

Location: Powell Gender:  
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Jul 25, 2022 - 8:30am |
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islander wrote:
Yes, this ^^^^^^
"well being an asshole seems to be effective for those guys, let's roll out a platform of assholery of our own" is not a great response. How about "You're clearly being an asshole, let's close up the loopholes that let you be an asshole and get a bunch of people to routinely vote assholes out of office".
One approach hopefully reduces assholery, no guarantee, but it's a hope. The other approach not only guarantees assholery, it encourages the assholes to dig in ('see you did it too' ) and to go looking for a way to be a bigger asshole next time around.
I'm not defending it, but in this case it's only peripherally about guns. It's Newsom playing his cards across state lines to deliver some unintended consequences to the pro-lifers who thought they were so smart. Maybe the thought is that Texas will go "oh shit!" and drop their law. Your last comment illustrates how that will work out.
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Lazy8

Location: The Gallatin Valley of Montana Gender:  
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Jul 23, 2022 - 12:00pm |
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islander wrote:
Yes, this ^^^^^^
"well being an asshole seems to be effective for those guys, let's roll out a platform of assholery of our own" is not a great response. How about "You're clearly being an asshole, let's close up the loopholes that let you be an asshole and get a bunch of people to routinely vote assholes out of office".
One approach hopefully reduces assholery, no guarantee, but it's a hope. The other approach not only guarantees assholery, it encourages the assholes to dig in ('see you did it too' ) and to go looking for a way to be a bigger asshole next time around.
Yes, and it raises the stakes. We have to win at any cost because look what they'll do to you if we don't.
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R_P


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Jul 23, 2022 - 11:59am |
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Add dog-sue-dog to dog-eat-dog.
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islander

Location: Seattle Gender:  
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Jul 23, 2022 - 11:56am |
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Lazy8 wrote:
Yes, there appears to be a race to the bottom. You abuse process to hurt people we care about, we abuse process to hurt people you care about. That otherwise law-abiding people get financially ruined in the process is just gravy, because we don't like them and want them to suffer.
It's political hostage taking.
Yes, this ^^^^^^
"well being an asshole seems to be effective for those guys, let's roll out a platform of assholery of our own" is not a great response. How about "You're clearly being an asshole, let's close up the loopholes that let you be an asshole and get a bunch of people to routinely vote assholes out of office".
One approach hopefully reduces assholery, no guarantee, but it's a hope. The other approach not only guarantees assholery, it encourages the assholes to dig in ('see you did it too' ) and to go looking for a way to be a bigger asshole next time around.
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Lazy8

Location: The Gallatin Valley of Montana Gender:  
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Jul 23, 2022 - 11:49am |
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ScottFromWyoming wrote:Sure but that's Newsom saying "two can play that game."
Yes, there appears to be a race to the bottom. You abuse process to hurt people we care about, we abuse process to hurt people you care about. That otherwise law-abiding people get financially ruined in the process is just gravy, because we don't like them and want them to suffer.
It's political hostage taking.
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ScottFromWyoming

Location: Powell Gender:  
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Jul 23, 2022 - 11:25am |
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islander wrote:
I get the appeal of this, but I don't like it. Doesn't this just validate that approach?
Sure but that's Newsom saying "two can play that game."
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In a only sort-of related turn, our Wyo legislature has passed a law saying it's illegal for a local cop to arrest someone in violation of a federal gun law. I don't think that was a problem but anyway, it's the same sort of law that's behind "sanctuary cities," which our same legislators would be howling about except now they have CRT to worry about.
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