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In my next life I try to chop down a redwood with a hatchet. Prime movie material I tell ya. Anyhow the wind blows it over before I can get through the first 60 years worth of rings...
wow, you really want her to go on a work trip (that can easily be postponed one week) after she has told you that the only other adult in the house will be away at a conference (that can't be rescheduled) at the same time? This means leaving the 16 year old home alone with no adult supervision except his 18 year old brother for an entire week. Really?
A) Trump playing the hand dealt him and fighting fire with fire; rhetoric du jour. Nothing to lose and everything to win. And it worked. Now at this point and place, few want to listen to someone speak well of Trump regardless of merit. So that is why I have little to say on the matter for now. Just been commenting on the climate.
B) There was a choice of only two to pick from that could win. Priorities became based upon the choices offered and who was for what. Trump was for more things that I want to see happen than Clinton was. 1st though and most important and clearly where the two differed the most was the border, national sovereignty and overall world view. Those principles have not been abandoned.
C) Yes, I have railed against our POTUS and government officials coming almost exclusively from the Ivy League. Wharton, while Ivy League by definition, is different (in my mind) when compared to Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Georgetown, Columbia, Dartmouth and the others. Wharton is a business school first and foremost and not unknown to me having lived in Philly. A bit broader based in the acceptance of more ideologies tolerated in the school as a whole. Its almost like the ugly redhaired step child of the Ivy League.
Some cabinet picks have raised an eyebrow. My question to myself on these is, is he putting a leash on them or turning them lose. I do hope the former. Have to wait and see. And that is what I will do.
I would add to what SFW said: I have heard you rail over and over in the past against those taking and those supporting an ends—justify-the-means approach.
A) Yet, nary a word from you about that during Trump's campaign during which he engaged in rather inflammatory tactics (and that is putting it mildly).
B)Over the years here, you have staked out a lot of line-in-the-sand principles, but it often is difficult to understand which of those are still important to you and which have seemingly been abandoned.
C)(By the way, quite some time ago, you railed against Ivy Leaguers being in positions of power in the federal government. Trump has installed a bunch of them in his cabinet, and he himself has an Ivy League degree. A small point)
A) Trump playing the hand dealt him and fighting fire with fire; rhetoric du jour. Nothing to lose and everything to win. And it worked. Now at this point and place, few want to listen to someone speak well of Trump regardless of merit. So that is why I have little to say on the matter for now. Just been commenting on the climate.
B) There was a choice of only two to pick from that could win. Priorities became based upon the choices offered and who was for what. Trump was for more things that I want to see happen than Clinton was. 1st though and most important and clearly where the two differed the most was the border, national sovereignty and overall world view. Those principles have not been abandoned.
C) Yes, I have railed against our POTUS and government officials coming almost exclusively from the Ivy League. Wharton, while Ivy League by definition, is different (in my mind) when compared to Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Georgetown, Columbia, Dartmouth and the others. Wharton is a business school first and foremost and not unknown to me having lived in Philly. A bit broader based in the acceptance of more ideologies tolerated in the school as a whole. Its almost like the ugly redhaired step child of the Ivy League.
Some cabinet picks have raised an eyebrow. My question to myself on these is, is he putting a leash on them or turning them lose. I do hope the former. Have to wait and see. And that is what I will do.
you know, it's funny. i've thought this same thing. i remember. and i see it the same way this time around, too. i just steer clear as much as possible. but boy, you're right, it does get old. i've had to unfollow some peeps in that other place.
that's too bad
the system has conditioned and convinced people (most of them good folks) to suspend logic and reason and vote along party/tribal lines because that's the only path to victory
winning is everything
are you a hatfield or a mccoy?
holding up two super shitty candidates and then getting upset when the results come in
Location: Perched on the precipice of the cauldron of truth
Posted:
Dec 21, 2016 - 6:26pm
kurtster wrote:
Maybe you should read it again. But whether you get what I say or not, its all I'll say on the matter. I got it out and in the open and out of my head so I can move on regardless if anyone else does.
I would add to what SFW said: I have heard you rail over and over in the past against those taking and those supporting an ends—justify-the-means approach. Yet, nary a word from you about that during Trump's campaign durIng which he engaged in rather inflammatory tactics (and that is putting it mildly). Over the years here, you have staked out a lot of line-in-the-sand principles, but it often is difficult to understand which of those are still important to you and which have seemingly been abandoned. (By the way, quite some time ago, you railed against Ivy Leaguers being in positions of power in the federal government. Trump has installed a bunch of them in his cabinet, and he himself has an Ivy League degree. A small point)
So you feel like you're being attacked? You're right; I don't care. You voted for the guy, who is, in the jargon of the day, deplorable. I don't hear many people who voted for him also saying jack shit about the deplorable stuff he's said, and done, and is doing. As long as he gives you what you want, you will turn your head when it comes to all of this other crap. I know this isn't you. I know you think this is as creepy as hell. But you put up with it, and more, and worse, as long as you get something in return. Maybe I'm being hypocritical, I'll have to think about that (thought about it: no, I have been pretty consistently angry with Obama for his not extracting us from wars and getting us into more of them). But that's all policy stuff. You're being attacked on two fronts: policy-related things (Build a Wall) and just general shitheel behavior. It's this stuff that makes it easy for people to say "If you voted for Trump, you're __________".
Maybe you should read it again. But whether you get what I say or not, its all I'll say on the matter. I got it out and in the open and out of my head so I can move on regardless if anyone else does.
unbridled statements about anyone who supports Trump is _____ and _____ and worse. Fine be that way. I'm sure that it makes you (who ever the shoe fits) feel better. But it will not get any one who is being attacked to try and see things your way. But if you are going down that road, I bet you really don't care about that anyway.
So you feel like you're being attacked? You're right; I don't care. You voted for the guy, who is, in the jargon of the day, deplorable. I don't hear many people who voted for him also saying jack shit about the deplorable stuff he's said, and done, and is doing. As long as he gives you what you want, you will turn your head when it comes to all of this other crap. I know this isn't you. I know you think this is as creepy as hell. But you put up with it, and more, and worse, as long as you get something in return. Maybe I'm being hypocritical, I'll have to think about that (thought about it: no, I have been pretty consistently angry with Obama for his not extracting us from wars and getting us into more of them). But that's all policy stuff. You're being attacked on two fronts: policy-related things (Build a Wall) and just general shitheel behavior. It's this stuff that makes it easy for people to say "If you voted for Trump, you're __________".
