steeler wrote:


Well, I have never considered it an insurrection, and nobody has been charged with insurrection, nor do I consider it to have been anything more than a bit of a riot, that began calmly enough but was stoked by the actions of several.

I think actually it was a Fedsurrection....a few video clips I saw had moments that looked a lot like the things that used to happen in apartheid South Africa back in the day where a crowd was salted with instigators to get the crowd to cross a line that opened up the justification for cops opening fire or for video tapes to be scoured to ID faces and bundle people up and even disappear them etc....I have said elsewhere that it looked like the operations that used to occur regularly in apartheid South Africa.

I think that people being sentenced to years in jail when they weren't even in Washington at the time is also very reminiscent of the old SA, disproportionately harsh sentences, detainees being denied basic rights....basically political prisoners....all of it stank and still stinks.
The destruction of esculpatory evidence, no real attempt to identify the pipe bomber and the mass of questions around the whole pipe bomb narrative, Ray Epps, Wray unable to say that there were zero FBI operators in the crowd etc etc etc...we have seen it all before in apartheid South Africa.

Then...Biden pardoning the J6 committee (improperly constituted) and their staff (for destroying evidence and other things) just confirms it to me.

What has happened now is that those political prisoners who did little to nothing on the day have been released....long overdue to my mind.
The cop who killed Ashley Babbitt should be held accountable.
Nancy Pelosi should answer some questions.
The censorship around this topic should be investigated.
There will be investigations, there will be hearings, the truth will always come out.
It always does.
I look forward to it.

I have listened to several long-form interviews with J6'ers, Jacob Chandler among them....what happened to them should not happen in America.
It should not happen anywhere, but especially not in America.
Maybe in Zimbabwe, but not in America.

It was no insurrection, no attempt to overthrow the government, or anything like that.....it was people exercising their right to protest against things that were happening and expressing their doubts about the veracity and fairness of the 2020 election.

It happened exactly like it would have in apartheid South Africa, a known planned peaceful rally or event being opportunistically turned into a riot, a narrative constructed around it, the government media spinning that narrative, and everything being twisted and used to imprison political opposition.

 Jiggz wrote:
What are your thoughts about Trump providing clemency to all of those convicted of crimes committed during the assault on the Capitol on January 6, 2021?

 kcar wrote:


Well...the blanket pre-emptive pardons for his family that he signed on the way out the door kinda confirmed what everyone who doesn't watch the televised mental institution called MSNBC already knew.
Only problem is...the demented twat forgot to pardon himself...
Pardoning Milley, Fauci, the J6 committee plus their staff....yeh, as far as I am concerned over here in Western Europe every Russian disinformation action and conspiracy theory has just been verified as true.

Saracasm aside, the fact that he gave Hunter an unconditional pardon dating back to 2014 tells me all I need to know, including explaining the backlash and subsequent impeachment of Trump for having the temerity to call Ukrainian president with a few questions....

Your mileage will obviously vary.

Nation Actually Pretty Impressed That Biden Lived Through All 4 Years Of Presidency

Thank you, Joe.

 kcar wrote:
And showing that the "deep state" FBI informants are ultra right wing

 islander wrote:
Shirley, a cat and mouse game. 

VS. 

 kcar wrote:

Good luck. He won't respond if you are trying to trap him with facts or reality.

 Red_Dragon wrote:

I was just about to post a link to this story...TY. 

Any thoughts on this, Kurt? You were the main promoter here of the "Biden Crime Family" notion...

 Proclivities wrote:

TL;DR: 

 black321 wrote:
Yes, it is a Dept. of Energy proposal, (which does not affect all gas powered water heaters) not a law.  Also, since the only source of this story seems to be Fox News/The NY Post (or at least refers back to NYP) , I am somewhat suspicious about the interpretations.

 kurtster wrote:
respectfully, i think you need to go back and review what the proposal means.
It only bans certain nat gas heaters/furnaces. 

ps, heat pumps do work below 32, but it is recommended to have backup heat in extreme drops in temps, well below freezing. 

Well Joe is doing his best to burn down the house on his way out the door hurting as many people as he can.

Banning nat gas furnaces and hot water heaters hits the poorest the hardest.

Heat pumps begin to fail when the temp gets below 32 F.  They are not going to work at all when the power goes out.  

There already is not enough reliable electricity to go around and with the new demands for it created by A I and data centers. How are we going to have enough for EV's and home appliances ?  Let alone a reliable infrastructure.

You can thank Joe when the pipes in your house freeze and essentially destroy it when the inevitable thaw happens and the busted pipes leak everywhere.  Just for openers.

Home emergency generators run on nat gas and propane. Portables run on gasoline.

Should have started with heating oil fueled furnaces and wood stoves.  They pollute more if he was being serious.

Nice legacy.

Who is doing the tilting at windmills again ?

He's fucking everyone, not just Trump supporters.

These are real actions done by a real dictator.

And all you Biden supporters still wonder why Trump got re elected ?

 rgio wrote: 
You have a serious reading comprehension issue.

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 kurtster wrote: 

 kurtster wrote:
I wasn't blaming anyone.  Even when you say multiple administrations, you name Biden, Harris, and the ever present deep state enablers.

As a recovering Republican, any suggestion that the Right supports education, especially public education, is foolish.  Betsy DeVos was a disaster. 

Do Dems get carried away....absolutely... but overreacting with rhetoric like the Republican position on CRT only makes things worse.

 rgio wrote: 
I guess that you missed where I said "for two generations".

By standard definitions that would be around 40 years.

And not that your statement that I was responding to was not a classic oversimplification.

 rgio wrote: 

 kurtster wrote:
A classic oversimplification of a really complex issue. Education has changed a lot over the years, and it’s influenced by many factors—not just one administration. Should we discuss "no child left behind"?  

Not that my earlier point about an ill-informed electorate needed a poster child— but your take shows how easily the politically-driven misinformed can derail a critically important discussion.  It's shocking how many of the "under-educated" suggest they can fix a system they struggled in.   

 kurtster wrote:

Nope. See "private Christian schools" - i.e., a refuge from "those" people, where kids can learn good Christian values, that abstinence is the only way, and that there's no such thing as evolution. Like those of the Klan, Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, and the Republican Party: the party that has a President who's said they want to do away with the Department of Education. You can't pin that racist, hypocritical, ignorant stuff on "the same people that brought you Biden" as a distraction. Doesn't work.