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Posted: Jul 31, 2009 - 7:36am

New Poll: Less Than Half Of Republicans Believe Obama Was Born In U.S.

Less than half of Republicans believe that Barack Obama was born in the United States of America, a new public opinion poll finds.

Only 42 percent of Republican respondents in a Research 2000 survey, conducted for the liberal website Daily Kos, said they thought Obama was a natural born citizen; 28 percent said they did not believe Obama was born in the United States; 30 percent said they were not sure.

The responses, which were gathered after several prominent conservative media personalities fed suspicion that Obama was unconstitutionally holding office, show the extent to which the conspiracy has taken hold in the GOP.

That only a plurality of Republicans were willing to acknowledge the president was born in America is nothing short of astounding, considering the preponderance of evidence that confirms his Hawaiian birth.

The conspiracy has a regional flavor. Overall, even including Democrats and independents, only 47 percent of respondents in the South said they believed Obama was born in America, with 23 percent saying he was not and 30 percent saying they were unsure. In the Northeast and Midwest, the percentage of respondents who believe Obama was born in the U.S. was over 90 percent.

Ninety-three percent of Democrats say the president was born in the United States, as do 83 percent of independents.

An email to the survey's authors, asking for the number of individuals surveyed in the Research 2000 poll, was not immediately returned.


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Posted: May 4, 2009 - 3:11pm

 hippiechick wrote:

Joe The Plumber: I Would Never Let "Queers" Near My Children

Joe the Plumber, aka Samuel Wurzelbacher, sat down for an lengthy interview with Christianity Today to discuss his views on the future of the Republican party. Wurzelbacher took the opportunity to...

...

In the vein of George W. Bush and Michael Steele, Joe the Plumber also indicated that he wouldn't run for public office until the Lord had given him a cue. "God hasn't said, 'Joe, I want you to run.' I feel more important to just encourage people to get involved, one way or another. If I can inspire some leaders, that would be great." Joe added: "I don't know if I want to be a leader."

  When is he going to go away? Poor devil got thrust into the spotlight, and doesn't have the good sense to step back out of it.


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Posted: May 4, 2009 - 3:05pm

Joe The Plumber: I Would Never Let "Queers" Near My Children

Joe the Plumber, aka Samuel Wurzelbacher, sat down for an lengthy interview with Christianity Today to discuss his views on the future of the Republican party. Wurzelbacher took the opportunity to speak out against gay marriage, which he says is wrong. The unlikely conservative spokesman went so far as to say he doesn't allow openly gay people "anywhere near" his children.

The word "queer," Wurzelbacher noted, "means strange and unusual."

Christianity Today: In the last month, same-sex marriage has become legal in Iowa and Vermont. What do you think about same-sex marriage at a state level?


Wurzelbacher: At a state level, it's up to them. I don't want it to be a federal thing. I personally still think it's wrong. People don't understand the dictionary—it's called queer. Queer means strange and unusual. It's not like a slur, like you would call a white person a honky or something like that. You know, God is pretty explicit in what we're supposed to do—what man and woman are for. Now, at the same time, we're supposed to love everybody and accept people, and preach against the sins. I've had some friends that are actually homosexual. And, I mean, they know where I stand, and they know that I wouldn't have them anywhere near my children. But at the same time, they're people, and they're going to do their thing.

In the vein of George W. Bush and Michael Steele, Joe the Plumber also indicated that he wouldn't run for public office until the Lord had given him a cue. "God hasn't said, 'Joe, I want you to run.' I feel more important to just encourage people to get involved, one way or another. If I can inspire some leaders, that would be great." Joe added: "I don't know if I want to be a leader."


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Posted: Apr 16, 2009 - 8:33pm

 pdhski wrote:

Slur? So if you admit to filing away posts IN YOUR MEMORY (she did not specify how it was done) how can it be a slur?

And my how you flatter yourself freely with this imagined adoration.  Methinks your wounded pride and attempt to color Ali as an ad hominem attacker are both pure BS.

I'm afraid it speaks volumes about your true character, especially if you try to hold yourself up against Ali. 

 
Thank you, Peter.

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Posted: Apr 15, 2009 - 1:11pm

 Beaker wrote:
Be ready at any time to swallow your post whole.
 
How come when I try out this line, it never works? 



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Posted: Apr 15, 2009 - 12:18pm

 Beaker wrote:

Dood,  I'll be mocking you as the unrepentant liar that you are, until you man up and remedy that.

Until then, please continue to enjoy your status as the first and only proven liar I've encountered here on RP.

{#Crown}
 
Let me guess, you got your "proof" from the same guy who emailed that tip about the staged troop meeting, right?

{#Wink}
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Posted: Apr 15, 2009 - 11:56am

 Beaker wrote:

Y'know what they say ... the truth - verifiable provable truth - eventually will emerge.  Be ready at any time to swallow your post whole.

 

Dood, I thought you were ignoring me?

I'm sorry, you're right, Beak, it is unfair of me to question the lack of verification in HotAir's "Obama's troop encounter was staged" story.  Their straw grasping is clearly beyond reproach.
I don't know what got into me.

So what you're saying is that it's OK for HotAir to engage in unsubstantiated rumormongering, because eventually someone there will actually do some checking to back up their story?  Will they publish a retraction if they find out that the suggestion contained in the anonymous email was untrue?  Does the Pope live in the woods?
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Posted: Apr 15, 2009 - 11:37am

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Ah.  I see this slur claims you as a fan too.  Sad to see the use of such veiled insults, but not unexpected.

Newsflash Ali — there is no filing system, real or imagined.  Just my good memory — and that I know how to use Google to ferret out stuff posted on RP.  But hey, like other past slurs against my character here, I'm sure this one will raise its head again and again, no matter how many times I explain it to y'all.  I'm afraid it says a great deal more about the person who utters the slur than it does me.

 
Too bad you aren't using that brilliant brain for something more constructive.

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Posted: Apr 15, 2009 - 11:11am

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Ah. I see this slur claims you as a fan too. Sad to see the use of such veiled insults, but not unexpected.

Newsflash Ali — there is no filing system, real or imagined. Just my good memory — and that I know how to use Google to ferret out stuff posted on RP. But hey, like other past slurs against my character here, I'm sure this one will raise its head again and again, no matter how many times I explain it to y'all. I'm afraid it says a great deal more about the person who utters the slur than it does me.


Slur? So if you admit to filing away posts IN YOUR MEMORY (she did not specify how it was done) how can it be a slur?

And my how you flatter yourself freely with this imagined adoration.  Methinks your wounded pride and attempt to color Ali as an ad hominem attacker are both pure BS.

I'm afraid it speaks volumes about your true character, especially if you try to hold yourself up against Ali. 
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Posted: Apr 15, 2009 - 9:38am

 hippiechick wrote:
Crook

http://thebruceblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/ted-stevens.jpg

 

Not any more....
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Posted: Apr 15, 2009 - 9:30am

 Monkeysdad wrote:


And one thing for sure: While toxic right-wing propaganda and toxic assets were getting spread around the world I never heard, not once, a cry from the left/democratic structure that the sky was falling.  


Upon passage (with bipartisan support) of legislation repealing the Glass-Steagal Act in 1999, that allowed entities like AIG to become both banks and securities traders (and insurers):

The decision to repeal the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933 provoked dire warnings from a handful of dissenters that the deregulation of Wall Street would someday wreak havoc on the nation's financial system. The original idea behind Glass-Steagall was that separation between bankers and brokers would reduce the potential conflicts of interest that were thought to have contributed to the speculative stock frenzy before the Depression . . .

The opponents of the measure gloomily predicted that by unshackling banks and enabling them to move more freely into new kinds of financial activities, the new law could lead to an economic crisis down the road when the marketplace is no longer growing briskly.

''I think we will look back in 10 years' time and say we should not have done this but we did because we forgot the lessons of the past, and that that which is true in the 1930's is true in 2010,'' said Senator Byron L. Dorgan, Democrat of North Dakota. ''I wasn't around during the 1930's or the debate over Glass-Steagall. But I was here in the early 1980's when it was decided to allow the expansion of savings and loans. We have now decided in the name of modernization to forget the lessons of the past, of safety and of soundness.''

Senator Paul Wellstone, Democrat of Minnesota, said that Congress had ''seemed determined to unlearn the lessons from our past mistakes.''

''Scores of banks failed in the Great Depression as a result of unsound banking practices, and their failure only deepened the crisis,'' Mr. Wellstone said. ''Glass-Steagall was intended to protect our financial system by insulating commercial banking from other forms of risk. It was one of several stabilizers designed to keep a similar tragedy from recurring. Now Congress is about to repeal that economic stabilizer without putting any comparable safeguard in its place.''




SOURCE


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Posted: Apr 15, 2009 - 9:27am

 aflanigan wrote:
Urban legends are fun, aren't they? 

  1. kgb999 | April 14th, 2009 at 03:15 pm

    Is it just me, or is “Hot Air” one of the most appropriately named sites on the web?



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Posted: Apr 15, 2009 - 9:19am

 Beaker wrote:

Its late, but here's just one wee bit of balloon deflater for the O-bots like yourself who against all reason wish to believe things to be other than they are:

“How do you make sure a crowd likes you? Screen out anybody who didn’t vote for you. Even if they’re serving their country under your watch.”

G'Nite.
 

Urban legends are fun, aren't they?

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Posted: Apr 15, 2009 - 12:12am

 hippiechick wrote: 
Oh, come on, we don't have no problem with gun-totin', Jew-raghead-haji-gimp-faggot-hatin' Vicodin / meth addicts - America's a "melting pot", ya know?

Give Beaker (or someone like him) a big hug & everything will be OK.  Right?  Tell me I'm Right!

(Just don't come near my organic garden or I'll have to bust out a rain barrel of whoop-ass!)


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Posted: Apr 14, 2009 - 10:28pm

 fuh2 wrote:

Given the Bush economic meltdown last fall I find it amazing the GOP was able to get nearly half the vote. They got most of the middle class white vote too. THAT is proof of the Corporate media's immense power. They were able to spread toxic rightwing propaganda like the big banks were spreading toxic assets around the world.

Thom Hartmann, Progressive radio talk jock,   would agree with you partially. He says he beats Rush in many big cities.
BUT his total audience is very small compared to Rush's because most cities dont have  a Progressive radio station at all.   Boston and NYC for instance. Neither has ONE left wing radio station!  Thom says that often progressive stations are very weak signal stations too. 

 
A weak message and weak radio signal go hand-in-hand, if you're not getting the message to the people, what are you?! I don't listen to Rush, I don't listen to Thom, I don't listen to AirAmerica but what little I do hear from the left-wing media doesn't capture my imangination or attention at all. It comes across as whiney, paranoid, and frankly...hateful. More whiney, paranoid, and hateful than any right-wing message I've heard yet.

And one thing for sure: While toxic right-wing propaganda and toxic assets were getting spread around the world I never heard, not once, a cry from the left/democratic structure that the sky was falling. It was only after the financial pendulum swung in the other direction that anyone cried "foul" and started pointing fingers, that much is written in history. Hopefully we'll all learn from this epoch in time and find a nice middle point to work from to sort out the future..

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Posted: Apr 14, 2009 - 9:42pm

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Oik! I have to disagree. The masses aren't controlled by the GOP or proxies, if they were we'd have McCain as president, right? As for controlling the airwaves...all the left has to do is capture the populations attention and imagination, much like Rush has to date.

 
Given the Bush economic meltdown last fall I find it amazing the GOP was able to get nearly half the vote. They got most of the middle class white vote too. THAT is proof of the Corporate media's immense power. They were able to spread toxic rightwing propaganda like the big banks were spreading toxic assets around the world.

Thom Hartmann, Progressive radio talk jock,   would agree with you partially. He says he beats Rush in many big cities.
BUT his total audience is very small compared to Rush's because most cities dont have  a Progressive radio station at all.   Boston and NYC for instance. Neither has ONE left wing radio station!  Thom says that often progressive stations are very weak signal stations too. 
Monkeysdad

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Posted: Apr 14, 2009 - 9:31pm

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Never underestimate the GOP. Remember they control the corporate media in most ways.  The owners are very rich and so are mostly Republican.  They get most of their revenue from giant corporations like Big Pharma, Big Oil and Coal, Health insurance corporations and Banks etc. 95% of talk  radio shows  are extremely right wing for the same reasons. Limbothas by ar the biggest audience every day. As long as they control the airwaves they will be in control of the masses. 

 

Oik! I have to disagree. The masses aren't controlled by the GOP or proxies, if they were we'd have McCain as president, right? As for controlling the airwaves...all the left has to do is capture the populations attention and imagination, much like Rush has to date.edit:That hasn't happened in the last 12 years from my perspective.
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Posted: Apr 14, 2009 - 9:27pm

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Yup... you are so correct again...  what they lack in majority, they make up for in money...

edit— it is so ironic that it was Lincoln who said, "You can't fool all the people all the time..."

 
Lincoln was one of the first Republicans,  but VERY Progressive. The GOP has changed a lot in 150 years. They  became intimate with big busness in about the 1870's.  

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Posted: Apr 14, 2009 - 9:19pm

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Yeah, you are completely correct...  Lincoln represented the north, the Democrats represented the Confederacy...  now, it is completely reversed... the Republican stronghold is in the South... they don't carry any of the northern states that Lincoln did...  the Republicans use absurd wedge issues about social subjects that don't have anything to do with money to divide people these days... things like abortion, gay marriage, stem cell research, etc...  then they loot the national treasury...  just look at Halliburton—  Cheney took 72 of the headquarters to the Bahamas while he was CEO in the 1990s to avoid paying U.S. taxes, and now Halliburton has gotten filthy rich in Iraq...  so Halliburton is paid with U.S. taxes, and they don't pay U.S. taxes... it is pure genius...  but now the middle class cannot afford the luxury of voting on social issues like Clinton's infidelity...  the middle class is broke, and now they are voting about the money, and the Republicans are doomed to be a minor party for a very long time, just like they were for a long time after the Great Depression...  but they are very entertaining on TV these days, now that they are harmless...

 
Never underestimate the GOP. Remember they control the corporate media in most ways.  The owners are very rich and so are mostly Republican.  They get most of their revenue from giant corporations like Big Pharma, Big Oil and Coal, Health insurance corporations and Banks etc. 95% of talk  radio shows  are extremely right wing for the same reasons. Limbothas by ar the biggest audience every day. As long as they control the airwaves they will be in control of the masses. 
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Posted: Apr 14, 2009 - 8:56pm

 bokey wrote:

More like some stuff rolls downhill.
  
Its like a sport for them. How many can they knock out of the middle class.

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