kurtster wrote: 
Well, they call themselves Communists, but, really they are Totalitarians.

Although he never used the terms himself, the triad thesis, antithesis, synthesis is often used to describe the thought of German philosopher Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel.

The triad is usually described in the following way:

• The thesis is an intellectual proposition.
• The antithesis is simply the negation of the thesis, a reaction to the proposition.
• The synthesis solves the conflict between the thesis and antithesis by reconciling their common truths, and forming a new proposition.

According to Walter Kaufman, although the triad is often ^<1> thought to form part of an analysis of historical and philosophical progress called the Hegelian dialectic, the assumption is erroneous. Hegel used this classification only once, and he attributed the terminology to Immanuel Kant. The terminology was largely developed earlier by the neo-Kantian Johann Gottlieb Fichte, also an advocate of the philosophy identified as German idealism.

The triad is often said to have been extended and adopted by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, however, Marx referred to them in The Poverty of Philosophy as speaking Greek and "Wooden trichotomies".

 kurtster wrote: 

 sirdroseph wrote: 
May all your traffic lights be forever green, my brother.  

 kurtster wrote: 
Yea, really it all comes down to eatin and poopin.

 hippiechick wrote: 
I am only speaking in terms of a sovereign State government, not about a kibbutz or farming commune in Montana, for example.  And the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics only disolved some 15 years ago, not 100 years ago, and China is still around last I looked along with Cuba and North Korea.  The more things change, the more they stay the same.  Meet the new boss same as the old boss ...

So what is the new paradigm I'm missing here anyway ?

And the only thing synthethic going on around here is how we make money.

 kurtster wrote: 
In theory, communism is not a bad thing. If a group of people is agreeable to living communally, then it works.

However, Stalinism, Trotskyism, etc. isn't true communism. It's the ruling class having everything they want, while the rest suffer. If it was true communism, The government would be out working with the people.Besides, you are talking about -isms that existed 100 yrs ago. Things have changed. The terms used in the 20th Century are no longer applicable. Start trying to think out of the box, Kurt.

Are you familiar with thesis, antithesis, synthesis?

 Argonaut wrote: 
I have a long held belief that it is not unreasonable to equate Communism to an organized religfion, where the State is the Religion.  Its all about what is best for the State before everything else.  An evil religion.  That's my over simplified take.  I have heard some of my own friends defend the actions of the government recently by stating that the government's needs should come before the people's.  I am left speechless in response to that.  If that's how most American's feel about things, then it is truly over in my opinion and this is just the endgame.

 Argonaut wrote: 
I've said he was from the beginning.  I was the one who posed the question, what is wrong with calling Obama a Socialist, since so many here deny that he is yet profess to be Socialist or favor Socialism themselves.  Perhaps they feel he isn't Socialist enough to be called a Socialist, I don't really know, that's why I asked.

I ask lot's of questions here.  Sometimes I know the answers before I ask and sometimes I really do not know the answers.  I toss sketty on the wall to see what sticks.  Does not mean that my views can be ascertained by the kinds of questions I ask.  I poke and nudge and sometimes go off the rails, but not with the intention of getting personal or down right mean.  Sometimes emotions do get the best of me, but I am of the opinion that the stupidest question is the one not asked.

Hey, Sen. Edwards. What do you call 1000 lawyers at the bottom of the lake? ......
A good start!

But they missed you.

 hippiechick wrote: 
It is the D's and the LDSM who keep giving this crap about O's birth certificate the light of day.  They could ignore it like so many other things that they ignore so well, like the will of the people and this would fade away.  It is only kept in the highlight of things because it is used to discredit groups with legitimate concerns and points of view by associating the birthers to their complaints in an effort to discredit everyone on the opposing side.

 Argonaut wrote: 
"Tell me the truth, you aren't really out here for the "hunting", are you?"
  ~ The Bear ~

 hippiechick wrote: 

Well, politically, I believe we've heard the last of Sen. Edwards. Good riddance to him *and any like him*.

 musik_knut wrote: 
You're right. I put JE's name in on edit. He threw these people, who were completely devoted to him, under a garbage truck and went back and forth several times. As disgusting as they come.

 hippiechick wrote: 

Andrew Young of Sen. Edward's group? Almost anything said in a negative light about Sen. Edward's will pass the first smell test with me. What a deceiving worm. We are talking about the same Young? Or do I have names jumbled up?

 musik_knut wrote: 
Boy, ain't that the truth! I was listening to the Andrew Youngs this morning on Oprah. There is a man (John Edwards) who manipulated the truthfor his own gain.

 hippiechick wrote: 

In some ways, yes, in others, no. First, folks are entitled to believe what they will, no matter the underlying madness behind it *madness as most would see it*. Second, many elected officials are masters of lies. Many elected officials no longer know truth from lie...and that is part of the reason we're in such a mess.

 musik_knut wrote: 
Doesn't it concern you that so many elected officials, people who should be reasonable, believe this ridiculous lie?

 hippiechick wrote: 

Exactly. As I said, that nonsense will continue on and on and...of course to not be a citizen, Mr. Obama, while still taking in his first breaths, would have had to have those around him conspire to produce newspaper notices of his birth in Hawaii and...well, just a bunch of nutcases who are never going to stop with their silliness.

 musik_knut wrote: 
Well, apparently not.

 hippiechick wrote: 

That tired lament, a claim that was put to bed sometime back, will continue in the same looney manner 9/11 truthers continue their claims...