???? is there some specific activity where indoctrination is inserted? And is it a requirment that the students participate?
I have heard that students won't even be required to watch or listen to the speech. That its fully free choice, determined school district by school district. That's the way its being done here in Minnesota, perhaps your state is different..
I read that school districts can opt out. I also read that some schools, I think NY was mentioned, aren't yet in session. If it's determined by the school district, as you said, then how is that a student's fully free choice?
edit: as for the specific activity re indoctrination, I mentioned a couple of specificities already below. I'm not going to post the entire document and highlight it for you. It's all there for your own eyes.
zipper wrote: Whoa, kids can vote in MA? Seriously, the teachers were instructed to wear them?
Did you see the letter from the Sec of Ed to the nation's principals regarding the historic speech? Note the follow-up classroom activities listed under question 3. Despite the fact that few kids will be paying attention to the speech, all of them will be required to participate in projects to discuss and explain what they learned from the president's words. We can rest assured that it will amount to blatant partisan indoctrination.
Painted_Turtle wrote: What specific activity is full of the blatant partisan indoctrination? Are you sure there is a requirment for participation?
???? is there some specific activity where indoctrination is inserted? And is it a requirment that the students participate?
I have heard that students won't even be required to watch or listen to the speech. That its fully free choice, determined school district by school district. That's the way its being done here in Minnesota, perhaps your state is different..
Previous presidents didn't attach a student curriculum to their speeches.
No. And that's just part of the wide difference between previous Presidents addressing students and President Obama's study guidelines, many of them focused on him.
Other Presidents have addressed school kids. They did so in a manner unlike what Team Obama proposes. Previous Presidents prodded students to study, to stay in school, to seek higher education after K12, to be good citizens.
Teaching kids about Our Presidents is fine. Having them learn the life of our current President is more of Mr. Obama's 'hey, look at me' stuff. He really has taken to being The One...
And once again, Team Obama, more and more resembling Pillars of Jell-O, backpedaled when considerable resistance erupted over some of the activities being proposed or actually, imposed.
Previous presidents didn't attach a student curriculum to their speeches.
Under the FAQ, the classroom activities for the K-6 grades begins with this.
Before the Speech • Teachers can build background knowledge about the President of the United States and his speech by reading books about presidents and Barack Obama.
Who writes this stuff?
Other Presidents have addressed school kids. They did so in a manner unlike what Team Obama proposes. Previous Presidents prodded students to study, to stay in school, to seek higher education after K12, to be good citizens.
Teaching kids about Our Presidents is fine. Having them learn the life of our current President is more of Mr. Obama's 'hey, look at me' stuff. He really has taken to being The One...
And once again, Team Obama, more and more resembling Pillars of Jell-O, backpedaled when considerable resistance erupted over some of the activities being proposed or actually, imposed.
Under the FAQ, the classroom activities for the K-6 grades begins with this.
Before the Speech • Teachers can build background knowledge about the President of the United States and his speech by reading books about presidents and Barack Obama.
Whoa, kids can vote in MA? Seriously, the teachers were instructed to wear them?
Did you see the letter from the Sec of Ed to the nation's principals regarding the historic speech? Note the follow-up classroom activities listed under question 3. Despite the fact that few kids will be paying attention to the speech, all of them will be required to participate in projects to discuss and explain what they learned from the president's words. We can rest assured that it will amount to blatant partisan indoctrination.
What specific activity is full of the blatant partisan indoctrination? Are you sure there is a requirment for participation?
Whoa, kids can vote in MA? Seriously, the teachers were instructed to wear them?
Did you see the letter from the Sec of Ed to the nation's principals regarding the historic speech? Note the follow-up classroom activities listed under question 3. Despite the fact that few kids will be paying attention to the speech, all of them will be required to participate in projects to discuss and explain what they learned from the president's words. We can rest assured that it will amount to blatant partisan indoctrination.
Oh, what's wrong with a little "education" ?? Afterall, children need to be taught what to think, don't they?
I am not sure some of the students got "the message." Perhaps she should have worn the Obama button in class like all the teachers were instructed to do in Massachusetts during Deval Patrick's campaign for governor?
Whoa, kids can vote in MA? Seriously, the teachers were instructed to wear them?
Did you see the letter from the Sec of Ed to the nation's principals regarding the historic speech? Note the follow-up classroom activities listed under question 3. Despite the fact that few kids will be paying attention to the speech, all of them will be required to participate in projects to discuss and explain what they learned from the president's words. We can rest assured that it will amount to blatant partisan indoctrination.
I am not sure some of the students got "the message." Perhaps she should have worn the Obama button in class like all the teachers were instructed to do in Massachusetts during Deval Patrick's campaign for governor?
Maybe every kid in the country should be given a Top Cat button to wear if they so choose too & if their parents allow them to wear one, of course.
Seems to me that its all the adults that are in a big kerfuffle over presidents talking with school children that are making this in to a Kilkenny Cat fight as DMax mentioned. Just sounds like more paranoid goofeyness to me. Most little kids don't view people as Repubs or Dems; just as people like themselves.
"There once were two cats of Kilkenny Each thought there was one cat too many
Because the country's educators are above reproach. What could go wrong? It's just a little indoctrination.
Oh, what's wrong with a little "education" ?? Afterall, children need to be taught what to think, don't they?
I am not sure some of the students got "the message." Perhaps she should have worn the Obama button in class like all the teachers were instructed to do in Massachusetts during Deval Patrick's campaign for governor?
Seriously, the teachers were instructed to wear them? 
