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Lazy8
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Dec 23, 2009 - 3:23pm |
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miamizsun wrote:not one bleedin' comment on this?
Um, nice tie? It's appalling, but I don't have anything to add. The Medieval Warm Period is there (along with a notice that editing is locked until 12/25 due to vandalism), as is the Little Ice Age (which is particularly thorough and well-sourced). The IPCC's treatment of these events (including their waffling and dissembling about the earth's climate history) is described in this article. Connolley's activity on Wikipedia has its own section in the article on him. It includes this: A July 2006 article in The New Yorker reported that Connolley briefly became "a victim of an edit war over the entry on global warming", in which a skeptic repeatedly "watered down" the article's explanation of the greenhouse effect.<9> The skeptic later brought the case before Wikipedia's arbitration committee, claiming that Connolley was pushing his own point of view in the article by removing material with opposing viewpoints. The arbitration committee imposed a "humiliating one-revert-a-day" editing restriction on Connolley. Wikipedia "gives no privilege to those who know what they're talking about", Connolley told The New Yorker.<9> The restriction was later revoked, and Connolley went on to serve as a Wikipedia administrator from January 2006<9> until the Wikipedia Arbitration Committee revoked his administrator status on 13 September 2009. Nothing on Wikipedia is permanent, not even a lie.
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musik_knut
Location: Third Stone From The Sun Gender:
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Dec 23, 2009 - 3:06pm |
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miamizsun wrote:not one bleedin' comment on this?
miamizsun wrote:Wikibullies at work. The National Post exposes broad trust issues over Wikipedia climate information.and this Lawrence Solomon: Wikipedia's climate doctor.All told, Connolley created or rewrote 5,428 unique Wikipedia articles. His control over Wikipedia was greater still, however, through the role he obtained at Wikipedia as a website administrator, which allowed him to act with virtual impunity. When Connolley didn't like the subject of a certain article, he removed it - more than 500 articles of various descriptions disappeared at his hand. When he disapproved of the arguments that others were making, he often had them barred - over 2,000 Wikipedia contributors who ran afoul of him found themselves blocked from making further contributions. Acolytes whose writing conformed to Connolley's global warming views, in contrast, were rewarded with Wikipedia's blessings. In these ways, Connolley turned Wikipedia into the missionary wing of the global warming movement.The Medieval Warm Period disappeared, as did criticism of the global warming orthodoxy. With the release of the Climategate Emails, the disappearing trick has been exposed. The glorious Medieval Warm Period will remain in the history books, perhaps with an asterisk to describe how a band of zealots once tried to make it disappear. Read more: http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2009/12/18/370719.aspx#ixzz0aT81n3Pp The National Post is now on Facebook. Join our fan community today. Connolley has been a busy boy. Wiki would be a very useful tool for finding information if it were straight up...I have found numerous and sometimes glaring errors in the arena of US History. But, I still use Wiki...
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miamizsun
Location: (3283.1 Miles SE of RP) Gender:
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Dec 23, 2009 - 2:19pm |
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not one bleedin' comment on this?
miamizsun wrote:Wikibullies at work. The National Post exposes broad trust issues over Wikipedia climate information.and this Lawrence Solomon: Wikipedia's climate doctor.All told, Connolley created or rewrote 5,428 unique Wikipedia articles. His control over Wikipedia was greater still, however, through the role he obtained at Wikipedia as a website administrator, which allowed him to act with virtual impunity. When Connolley didn't like the subject of a certain article, he removed it - more than 500 articles of various descriptions disappeared at his hand. When he disapproved of the arguments that others were making, he often had them barred - over 2,000 Wikipedia contributors who ran afoul of him found themselves blocked from making further contributions. Acolytes whose writing conformed to Connolley's global warming views, in contrast, were rewarded with Wikipedia's blessings. In these ways, Connolley turned Wikipedia into the missionary wing of the global warming movement.The Medieval Warm Period disappeared, as did criticism of the global warming orthodoxy. With the release of the Climategate Emails, the disappearing trick has been exposed. The glorious Medieval Warm Period will remain in the history books, perhaps with an asterisk to describe how a band of zealots once tried to make it disappear. Read more: http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2009/12/18/370719.aspx#ixzz0aT81n3Pp The National Post is now on Facebook. Join our fan community today. Connolley has been a busy boy.
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MrsHobieJoe
Location: somewhere in Europe Gender:
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Dec 23, 2009 - 1:28pm |
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I found this quite an interesting article. I didn't follow the talks in enough detail to filter the information well so I odn't have a feel for how accurate it is.
How do I know China wrecked the Copenhagen deal? I was in the roomAs recriminations fly post-Copenhagen, one writer offers a fly-on-the-wall account of how talks failed Ed Miliband: China tried to hijack climate deal The key players and how they rated Copenhagen was a disaster. That much is agreed. But the truth about what actually happened is in danger of being lost amid the spin and inevitable mutual recriminations. The truth is this: China wrecked the talks, intentionally humiliated Barack Obama, and insisted on an awful "deal" so western leaders would walk away carrying the blame. How do I know this? Because I was in the room and saw it happen. China's strategy was simple: block the open negotiations for two weeks, and then ensure that the closed-door deal made it look as if the west had failed the world's poor once again. And sure enough, the aid agencies, civil society movements and environmental groups all took the bait. The failure was "the inevitable result of rich countries refusing adequately and fairly to shoulder their overwhelming responsibility", said Christian Aid. "Rich countries have bullied developing nations," fumed Friends of the Earth International. MORE FROM THE GUARDIAN
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Welly
Location: Lotusland Gender:
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Dec 23, 2009 - 1:21pm |
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hippiechick
Location: topsy turvy land Gender:
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Dec 23, 2009 - 1:10pm |
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sirdroseph wrote:Yea, that is all that it is about, nothing is wrong at all, everything is fine. It is nothing but a conspiracy to get their hands on your tax dollars. Nothing to see here people, just move on (head in sand), continue doing what you are doing and everything will be just fine! Especially that part about running out of water. "Water is the new oil."
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sirdroseph
Location: Not here, I tell you wat Gender:
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Dec 23, 2009 - 1:07pm |
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lowelltr wrote:I find it fascinating marketing that this bogus campaign is now called "climate change" rather than the previous "global warming"..... Debunked? Doubters? That's OK - just rename it and resell it......will they stop at nothing to get their hands on tax dollars???!! Yea, that is all that it is about, nothing is wrong at all, everything is fine. It is nothing but a conspiracy to get their hands on your tax dollars. Nothing to see here people, just move on (head in sand), continue doing what you are doing and everything will be just fine!
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musik_knut
Location: Third Stone From The Sun Gender:
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Dec 23, 2009 - 12:46pm |
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lowelltr wrote:I find it fascinating marketing that this bogus campaign is now called "climate change" rather than the previous "global warming"..... Debunked? Doubters? That's OK - just rename it and resell it......will they stop at nothing to get their hands on tax dollars???!!
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lowelltr
Location: Cardinal Nation Gender:
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Dec 23, 2009 - 11:50am |
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I find it fascinating marketing that this bogus campaign is now called "climate change" rather than the previous "global warming"..... Debunked? Doubters? That's OK - just rename it and resell it......will they stop at nothing to get their hands on tax dollars???!!
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hobiejoe
Location: Still in the tunnel, looking for the light. Gender:
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Dec 22, 2009 - 6:22pm |
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Welly wrote: The Now Show rocks. Ask MrsHJ to send you a dongle of Brigstocke
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miamizsun
Location: (3283.1 Miles SE of RP) Gender:
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Dec 22, 2009 - 4:58pm |
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Wikibullies at work. The National Post exposes broad trust issues over Wikipedia climate information.and this Lawrence Solomon: Wikipedia's climate doctor.All told, Connolley created or rewrote 5,428 unique Wikipedia articles. His control over Wikipedia was greater still, however, through the role he obtained at Wikipedia as a website administrator, which allowed him to act with virtual impunity. When Connolley didn't like the subject of a certain article, he removed it - more than 500 articles of various descriptions disappeared at his hand. When he disapproved of the arguments that others were making, he often had them barred - over 2,000 Wikipedia contributors who ran afoul of him found themselves blocked from making further contributions. Acolytes whose writing conformed to Connolley's global warming views, in contrast, were rewarded with Wikipedia's blessings. In these ways, Connolley turned Wikipedia into the missionary wing of the global warming movement.The Medieval Warm Period disappeared, as did criticism of the global warming orthodoxy. With the release of the Climategate Emails, the disappearing trick has been exposed. The glorious Medieval Warm Period will remain in the history books, perhaps with an asterisk to describe how a band of zealots once tried to make it disappear. Read more: http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2009/12/18/370719.aspx#ixzz0aT81n3Pp The National Post is now on Facebook. Join our fan community today. Connolley has been a busy boy.
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Welly
Location: Lotusland Gender:
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islander
Location: West coast somewhere Gender:
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Dec 22, 2009 - 2:10pm |
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Welly
Location: Lotusland Gender:
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Dec 22, 2009 - 1:46pm |
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miamizsun wrote: I figure, what the hell. I ain't got no kids, so I get a free pass on this one.
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miamizsun
Location: (3283.1 Miles SE of RP) Gender:
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Dec 22, 2009 - 1:44pm |
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This is bad....say good bye to your pets. Polluting pets: the devastating impact of man's best friend.PARIS (AFP) - Man's best friend could be one of the environment's worst enemies, according to a new study which says the carbon pawprint of a pet dog is more than double that of a gas-guzzling sports utility vehicle. But the revelation in the book "Time to Eat the Dog: The Real Guide to Sustainable Living" by New Zealanders Robert and Brenda Vale has angered pet owners who feel they are being singled out as troublemakers. The Vales, specialists in sustainable living at Victoria University of Wellington, analysed popular brands of pet food and calculated that a medium-sized dog eats around 164 kilos (360 pounds) of meat and 95 kilos of cereal a year. Combine the land required to generate its food and a "medium" sized dog has an annual footprint of 0.84 hectares (2.07 acres) — around twice the 0.41 hectares required by a 4x4 driving 10,000 kilometres (6,200 miles) a year, including energy to build the car. To confirm the results, the New Scientist magazine asked John Barrett at the Stockholm Environment Institute in York, Britain, to calculate eco-pawprints based on his own data. The results were essentially the same. "Owning a dog really is quite an extravagance, mainly because of the carbon footprint of meat," Barrett said. Other animals aren't much better for the environment, the Vales say. Cats have an eco-footprint of about 0.15 hectares, slightly less than driving a Volkswagen Golf for a year, while two hamsters equates to a plasma television and even the humble goldfish burns energy equivalent to two mobile telephones.
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ndg
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Dec 19, 2009 - 8:07am |
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R.I.P.
To stop the world ... I want to get off
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HazzeSwede
Location: Hammerdal Gender:
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Dec 18, 2009 - 1:31pm |
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musik_knut wrote:Oh...ok...I'm sensitive to smears of public officials...they usually smear themselves, ya know? I know,,I am one myself !
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musik_knut
Location: Third Stone From The Sun Gender:
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Dec 18, 2009 - 1:30pm |
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HazzeSwede wrote: Sorry,,not talking about Mr Obama merly saying we" humans " are nothing more or less then just a Monkey-man ! Darwin and all that,,you know !
Oh...ok...I'm sensitive to smears of public officials...they usually smear themselves, ya know?
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HazzeSwede
Location: Hammerdal Gender:
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Dec 18, 2009 - 1:28pm |
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musik_knut wrote:
Monkey-man? President Obama? There's NO need to smear Mr. Obama. There was enough of that for Mr. Bush...
Sorry,,not talking about Mr Obama merly saying we" humans " are nothing more or less then just a Monkey-man ! Darwin and all that,,you know !
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musik_knut
Location: Third Stone From The Sun Gender:
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Dec 18, 2009 - 1:22pm |
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HazzeSwede wrote: Have a little faith,,see the beauty,,try to believe in change and the ability of monkey-man to govern the planet ! (and come and check out my beach house,lots for the dollares !)
Monkey-man? President Obama? There's NO need to smear Mr. Obama. There was enough of that for Mr. Bush...
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