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Majority of Americans approve drone strikes — RT(...) Pew Research found that in 17 out of 20 countries surveyed, more than half disapprove of the strikes, while 62 percent of Americans support the targeted-killing initiative.
In Greece, 90 percent of those surveyed condemn America’s drone strikes, followed closely by Egypt’s 89 percent. Drone strikes are also condemned in Jordan (85 percent), Turkey (81 percent), Spain (76 percent), Brazil (76 percent) and Japan (75 percent). (...)
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R_P
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hippiechick
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miamizsun wrote: in every evolution there winners and losers
the act of extending human rights to everyone, everywhere, equally will cause discomfort to those that are invested in the political war machine
i say tough sh*t to those parasites who have vested interests in militarization/death
they're very exposed now (the fascistic power monopoly of politics and corps)
all we have to do is peacefully act on principle
it is possible to end the wars
regards
If you believe in extending human rights, does that include healthcare? Do you believe that everyone is entitled to a certain level of life, such as having food and shelter?
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miamizsun
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Sep 11, 2012 - 6:37am |
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hippiechick wrote: Our human rights record has never been anything to brag about, we have been killing others since the white man landed here
in every evolution there winners and losers the act of extending human rights to everyone, everywhere, equally will cause discomfort to those that are invested in the political war machine i say tough sh*t to those parasites who have vested interests in militarization/death they're very exposed now (the fascistic power monopoly of politics and corps) all we have to do is peacefully act on principle it is possible to end the wars regards
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oldviolin
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Sep 11, 2012 - 6:27am |
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"Evil white men" and guilt assignments aside, the arguments are moot. The death of the old way is at hand, justification in tow. The violence will escalate to that end. It is incumbent upon us.
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oldviolin
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Sep 11, 2012 - 6:23am |
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black321 wrote: right...it's only a matter of time before the "enemy" gets hold of the technology. But can you stop the march of technology?
No, nor should it be. Perhaps a more refined set of directives are called for...
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Red_Dragon
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Sep 11, 2012 - 6:19am |
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sirdroseph wrote:
Yes, but let's just say the drones will bring it all home to us. Iran captured a sophisticated drone a couple of months ago, won't be long now.
I think making use of that is probably a lot more difficult than you imagine. Even if the thing were captured intact (which is wasn't) it would be a long time before they could not only figure out how to use it but to create the infrastructure required to do so. Such discussions are ultimately academic, tho. What is needed is a sea change in policies, attitudes and an end to Pax Americana.
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hippiechick
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Sep 11, 2012 - 6:16am |
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miamizsun wrote:what does this say about us as a country? as individuals? what excuses do we tell ourselves and others? openly tolerating and funding these unnecessary and horrific murders? how do we explain this to our children? our human rights record is stained forever just awful Our human rights record has never been anything to brag about, we have been killing others since the white man landed here
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sirdroseph
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miamizsun wrote:what does this say about us as a country? as individuals? what excuses do we tell ourselves and others? openly tolerating and funding these unnecessary and horrific murders? how do we explain this to our children? our human rights record is stained forever just awful Yes, but our country was founded on rivers of blood. Are we really any worse now than we have ever been?
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miamizsun
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Sep 11, 2012 - 6:14am |
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what does this say about us as a country? as individuals? what excuses do we tell ourselves and others? openly tolerating and funding these unnecessary and horrific murders? how do we explain this to our children? our human rights record is stained forever just awful
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sirdroseph
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oldslabsides wrote: Would a policy of dealing death in person mean there were any less blood on his hands? American Imperialism will be our undoing, not the technical instruments it uses.
Yes, but let's just say the drones will bring it all home to us. Iran captured a sophisticated drone a couple of months ago, won't be long now.
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Red_Dragon
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Sep 11, 2012 - 6:09am |
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oldviolin wrote:All apologetics aside, this policy of dealing death by remote control is helping to pave the way for our undoing. The President and his advisers have chosen to continue and even escalate the program with any and all justification, and the blood is on his hands. It is a disgrace.
Would a policy of dealing death in person mean there were any less blood on his hands? American Imperialism will be our undoing, not the technical instruments it uses.
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black321
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Sep 11, 2012 - 6:05am |
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oldviolin wrote:All apologetics aside, this policy of dealing death by remote control is helping to pave the way for our undoing. The President and his advisers have chosen to continue and even escalate the program with any and all justification, and the blood is on his hands. It is a disgrace.
right...it's only a matter of time before the "enemy" gets hold of the technology. But can you stop the march of technology?
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oldviolin
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Sep 11, 2012 - 5:56am |
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All apologetics aside, this policy of dealing death by remote control is helping to pave the way for our undoing. The President and his advisers have chosen to continue and even escalate the program with any and all justification, and the blood is on his hands. It is a disgrace.
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hippiechick
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Sep 11, 2012 - 5:50am |
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This is one policy of Obama's that I just can't get over.
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miamizsun
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Sep 11, 2012 - 5:48am |
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The Laws Obama is Breaking in His Relentless Drone War John Glaser, September 10, 2012 The Obama administration has superseded both domestic and international law in its targeted killing program in Pakistan, Yemen, and Somalia. A legal memo from the Congressional Research Service has concluded that “none of the established legal frameworks is a perfect fit for the Administration’s lethal targeting operations because the current US practice of lethal targeting involves features that are improvised, inconsistent or otherwise questionable,” according to Secrecy News. While the laws of war have traditionally been relegated to certain geographic areas of declared conflict, the Obama administration has expanded Congress’s authorization of the use of force, initially granted for Afghanistan, to apply to a borderless conflict that is defined however the President wants. The administration has also extended the authorization for the use of force against those who carried out the attacks of September 11th to apply to anyone the President says is a member of al-Qaeda, anywhere in the world, without any checks or balances or legal process to prove such membership. The administration has also extended this reasoning to US citizens, who have undeniable rights to due process under the Constitution, and while they seem to have written a legal memo from the Office of Legal Counsel, they have refused to release it. In order to violate established law with a new supplanted version of it, the Obama administration has done what many ruling parties have done in the past to retroactively legalize their crimes: alter the English language. Secrecy News explains: For example, CRS says the Administration appears to have redefined the meaning of “imminence,” one of the required elements for justifying the use of force in self-defense on the territory of another country. The standard definition of imminence refers to an overwhelming threat that allows “no moment for deliberation.” But the Administration uses imminence idiosyncratically “to refer to the window of opportunity for striking rather than the perceived immediacy of the threat of an armed attack.” This novel usage “may pose some challenge to the international law regarding the use of force,” CRS said. more...
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Santa's Sleigh... Or Drones Overhead?by Ed Kinane Like the School of the Americas, the weaponized drone perpetrates terrorism. As Predator drones come to Ft. Benning, some SOA Watch activists are applying our SOAW experience to “outing” the Predator and Reaper drones already in our midst.
Syracuse’s Hancock Air National Guard Base has become one of the national hubs for piloting — via computer screen and satellite — the Reaper over Afghanistan. For three years upstate New York activists have been trying to educate our public and Hancock personnel about the war crimes being committed by these robotic killers.
The Reaper, a higher-tech offspring of the Predator, is the Pentagon’s and the CIA’s instrument for aerial surveillance and assassination in Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan and other nations “over there.” Now with those US/NATO wars somewhat winding down, the Reaper – and a slew of its robotic cousins — are coming home to roost in the Western Hemisphere. Also driving this trend are the US and Israeli drone manufacturers eager to expand their markets.
The SOA/WHINSEC currently offers a “Masters Training” course familiarizing its students with drones. For several years US drones have been flying deep into Mexico, and now crisscross the Caribbean. Drones are penetrating South American airspaces. They are used for drug-interdiction, monitoring borders and hounding undocumented Latinos trying to enter the US. And within the US there’s strong pressure to use the drone for domestic surveillance and crowd control.
Colombia drones take on anti-insurgency functions. In 2009 Hugo Chavez claimed that a Colombian drone invaded Venezuelan air space. The Colombian government denied the charge, responding that Venezuelans must have been seeing “Santa’s sleigh.” So far there seems to be little evidence that the drones now roaming Latin America are weaponized. But some – like Israel’s Hermes 900 — can readily be adapted for lethal payloads (including 500-pound bombs and Hellfire missiles). The so-called “war on drugs” segues into – and serves as cover for — war on “insurgents” or on perceived enemies of the state and of the empire. Missions drift. While the US Congress regulates the export of drones, the Israelis are selling their drones all over the place, including to Brazil, Colombia, Chile, and Mexico. Reminds me of back in the eighties when Congress cut out military aid to Guatemala’s genocidal regime, the Israelis – with the Pentagon’s wink and a nod — provided such aid. Assisted by Israel (and, in the case of Venezuela, Iran), several Latin American nations are already developing their own drones. (...)
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