aflanigan wrote:
 

Damn right buddy, I have had mine done for over 10 years now, I have one child. I never tell anyone to do anything that I won't or haven't done myself.

 aflanigan wrote:
I must be a leader.

 sirdroseph wrote:the best leaders lead by example.

 sirdroseph wrote: 
I guess you like to put it in more than you like what comes out.

The RU486, fyi, is not an abortion pill, because conception has not yet taken place. Very important to distinguish this.  

 hobiejoe wrote: 

Yea I see now, I thought this was the abortion pill not a contraceptive pill. Big fan of this, all women should take it regularly imo.

 sirdroseph wrote: 
I've used it a few times and I certainly don't have a wild life.  It's been available on prescription here for many years ( free) and for the last few years as over the counter medication. /mrs

 hobiejoe wrote: 

I agree, this will shift towards more abortions and less unwanted pregnancies which quite frankly is fine with me. It is just sad that we have to have either and I just can't find myself being happy about either choice. 

Edit; My bad, I thought this pill was the RU486, I see this is different.  In that case, I think this product should not only be legal, it should be mandatorily administered to all un married females between the ages of 12-20.  Just as I believe that all males should be forced to have vasectomies after the birth of their first child, but that is just me!

 sirdroseph wrote: 
I think we need to remember that the availability of contraception is only tenuously linked to changes in behaviour. What is will affect is  the number of unwanted pregnancies and abortion.

 aflanigan wrote: 
Kids nowadays have oral or anal sex, which, let's face it, is a lot safer than intercourse.

 sirdroseph wrote: 
Ah, yes, our old friend nostalgia.  The fond embrace of good old days that never existed.

The Myth of Rampant Teenage Promiscuity

 hippiechick wrote: 
AGREED!!!

 sirdroseph wrote: 
No. People have always had sex, nothing new. Where do you think all the adoptive children came from? My mother had an abortion when she was 16, in 1937, and my grandma apparently knew exactly where to take my mother. (My mother was so ashamed that it affected her entire life, not being able to tell or talk about it; she revealed this to me a couple years before she died.)

 For whatever reason, most likely the combo of birth control and abortions, it's much more difficult to adopt a white baby in the US, that's why people adopt through Korea or Russia. 

 hippiechick wrote: 

New? No. Worse than 50 years ago? Oh yes, don't be naive.

 sirdroseph wrote: 
Why is that sad? Do you think this is something new? Don't be naive.

 hippiechick wrote: 

And yet sad for society that there are so many sexually active young teenagers to where this is needed. Victory may be too strong a word.

This is a great victory for women

Court Orders FDA to Make Emergency Contraception Available Over-the-Counter for All Ages

 ErikX wrote: 

Marco Rubio opposes Violence Against Women Act 

 

Feb 12, 2013 at 2:56 pm

Another Victory For Women’s Rights: Arizona Loses Battle To Defund Planned Parenthood

Watching the Chris Hayes Show talking about women's rights in this country and around the world, and it is quite obvious that the war continues. 

Roe v Wade has been lost, we are back to pre-Roe conditions.

Women around the world are being treated in the worst ways around the world.