sirdroseph wrote: 
Ah yes, the white man's burden. See, you really don't have to look all that far away or intently gaze on some very specific groups. It's everywhere.

 helenofjoy wrote: 
I am hear and shouting it, raging against the dying light! You might say I have made it my personal crusade, my target market are liberals because the usual suspects in this country that need the lecturing (bigots and evangelicals) are not going to listen and quite frankly share the same patriarchal and misogynist views as the cultures of the Middle East, Southeast Asia and Africa.  It is the progressives of the world that need to acknowledge this fact without fear of being called Islamaphobic.  imo they are missing the boat in this discussion and women and girls around the world and wherever these cultures migrate are going to continue to suffer for it until they wake up.

BATTLE PLANS
Bby Gen. Bob Slattery and Al

!/ full frontle with salt

2. lots of Right Guard

3} Egg throwing teams on flanks (wear helmets in case of return)

4a/ X's where their eyes were mean theyre dead

5 make them look over there then run around them

6. Booby trapped caves filled with gold and chicken nuggetts rigged for collapsing.

&. fake babies all over the place with NO MAN'S LAND written on them and the NO crossed off.

8. COndoms are filled with assorted nuts and turmeric instead. 

8(a) optional> cut off there phone wire. (no reinforcements to challenge if losing)

7/ Use coordination and hiindsites to blow up their bridges and watch out towers (at night)!

10 get one and tie her hair in knots with dirt but let her live to go back and tell the others about the DOOM!

 helenofjoy wrote: 
Never assume.

 oldviolin wrote: 
Speaking of blinders, I'm in shock at how many people just don't get it and appear unwilling to even look at this worldwide (apparently) cultural problem.  I just assumed we were, as intelligent beings, evolving out of the mindset that women are tools subject to ownership, abuse, and terrorism.

 Isabeau wrote: 
That's easy to see even for those wearing blinders...

 Isabeau wrote: 
OK, you play angry woman and I'll play angry woman. How about the favors shown to the religious right by funding their programs, also known as faith-based programs.  The Bushies steered billions to right wing organizations, with the usual amount of corruption.  Interestingly, the right LOVES guns, Ignoring EPA rules, capital punishment and religious expression,particularly when it infringes on liberal denominations or just plain I- don't- care. Also when it requires participation by unbelievers. Thank you for the sentence about a woman's relationship with her God.  That Protestant tenet seems to be ignored by those who believe in Big Church.
 Enough ranting or one day.  Have a nice Sunday service, whether in a church, or at breakfast with the kids, or bird-watching, or whatever helps in your search for meaning. 

 oldviolin wrote: 
An eye for an eye makes us all blind, stuff like that, right boss?

 Isabeau wrote: 
War in any context makes fools of most of us. The rest it kills...

 oldviolin wrote: 
oh. okay.  

 Isabeau wrote: 
You're directing your righteous indignation at the wrong person. I find no need for equivocation regarding the madness of fools.

 islander wrote: 
You Survived!! 

 oldviolin wrote: 
Then let's have some lovely shots of innocent civilian Mothers and children blown to bits by OUR bombs in Middle East Wars.
Sound muted, with Wagner playing as the blood spatters.

Why the horror of a Process ending but not equally of a Live Result? A Process that often ends similarly around the time when many miscarriages happen. Most women do not have terminations after 8-10 weeks. I once met a woman with 3 children, one with Spinal Bifida, sobbing, because the spermicide/condom didn't work and she found herself pregnant. She felt she had to terminate this pregnancy.... simply for her and her husband to afford to take care of the family they have.

Whose quality of life is being threatened, changed, or in any way affected what an American woman does with her personal and family issues?
Is Liberty Only about Federal Lands, Guns, Ignoring EPA rules and Religious Expression? 
What business is it of yours interfering with a Woman's own personal decision, between her, her family, her doctor and her relationship with  her God?

For a country that worships is War, Guns and Capital Punishment, it has NO CREDIBILITY weighing on the 'Value' of Life.
The Nazarene clearly stated his rejection of violence in Any form. Yet too many conveniently play Spiritual Hopscotch between teaching and testaments when it suits their arguments.
 

It's merely SELECTIVE MORALITY. 

and WE still pay for it

 islander wrote: 
I remember a picture of my brother at my mom's feet on the floor of the front seat of my parents 195something Buik

 ScottFromWyoming wrote: 
I've been going through some old pictures. I have one that has me as an infant on the kitchen floor while my mom has her back turned and is doing something at the stove (I doubt it was cooking, that just wasn't her style).  I affectionately call 'benign neglect'. I think it worked out okay.

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

 
right. every parent likely accidently says something "shameful" or doesn't control themselves once in a while and hits......

I think all of the time is helicopter parenting. Much  of knowing how to entertain one's self is learned as a kid......

I also want to say that parenting is hard (I think ) so want to give people space to sometimes get lost in a freecell game on their phone or or or

 meower wrote: 
I think that's ...good enough. :slapsknee:
 
Some of those, I would want to strive for 100%, some would say spanking is required...

Being present most of the time is good, All of the time, is that helicopter parenting? 

 miamizsun wrote:

 
Agreed. Likely a large part of the reason that I didn't become a parent.

In the Biz, we talk about "good enough parenting" which honestly MOST parents are able to provide, I think.

a good enough parent is there most of the time that their child (in a developmentally appropriate manner) needs them, and puts their child first much of the time. A good enough parent does not use shame to manage their child's behavior 99% of the time. A good enough parent doesn't use their physical ways to manage their child's behavior 99% of the time. A good enough parent is present with their child MOST of the time. A good enough parent talks to their child about family/school/community values and works to get their child to abide by these values much of the time.

I think.

 (obviously I'm not a parent, so please chime in moms'ndads)