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Posted: Mar 21, 2013 - 12:23pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

Y'know what? Don't. I don't know anyone who categorizes themselves as sheep, and yet you hear others talk about "sheeple" quite often. So what it does is make the speaker sound like an egotistical ass.

 

I actually find Gypsyman to be quite intelligent and I am willing to bet that he has access to information and stuff and has heard this term used just as you have. I am also willing to bet that he is perceptive and articulate enough to use it in a context that will not make him sound like an egostical ass or then again maybe he just doesn't mind sounding like an egotistical ass being a free country and all.  I do appreciate that you have a superior cognitive ability on what others perceive, but I also think that Gypsy will be able to pick his knuckles up just high enough to avoid that pitfall if only temporarily because lord knows the effort is great to keep them off of the ground.  As for me, I know that I am an egotistical ass so my intent was astutely and correctly received by you as I would expect seeing that your view is from a higher perch.

There's a breed of humility which is itself a species of showing off.   Mark Twain
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Posted: Mar 21, 2013 - 12:12pm

 bokey wrote:
Sorry.{#Lol}



 
I need to get that movie. Haven't seen it in years.  {#Lol}
  
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Posted: Mar 21, 2013 - 11:51am

 gypsyman wrote:


Overlords and sheep? I will be laughing at that one all day.....may I borrow it?    {#Propeller} 

 
Y'know what? Don't. I don't know anyone who categorizes themselves as sheep, and yet you hear others talk about "sheeple" quite often. So what it does is make the speaker sound like an egotistical ass.
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Posted: Mar 21, 2013 - 10:58am

 islander wrote:

I've said many times, there is an 'Us' and a 'Them', but 'Us' is the ~ 300 million Americans (+/-) who want to get on with their day and 'Them' is the few hundred who would have you believe the 'Us/Them' is comprised of those 300 million Americans.  

  Sorry. {#Lol}




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Posted: Mar 21, 2013 - 10:50am

 islander wrote:

I've said many times, there is an 'Us' and a 'Them', but 'Us' is the ~ 300 million Americans (+/-) who want to get on with their day and 'Them' is the few hundred who would have you believe the 'Us/Them' is comprised of those 300 million Americans. 

 

Exactly. 300 million would be the sheep and the few hundred drumming up the false divisness are the overlords. We agree completely.  Of course there are the thousands of whack job extremist on both sides who truly are divisive in their own thoughts and opinions, they do not help matters to be sure.


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Posted: Mar 21, 2013 - 10:49am

 islander wrote:

I've said many times, there is an 'Us' and a 'Them', but 'Us' is the ~ 300 million Americans (+/-) who want to get on with their day and 'Them' is the few hundred who would have you believe the 'Us/Them' is comprised of those 300 million Americans. 

 
Then there are the giant corporations concerned only with making money and controlling markets in order to make even more money.
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Posted: Mar 21, 2013 - 10:46am

 sirdroseph wrote:


I love it, hopefully the partisans will become confused and finally wake up realizing there was never really a "side" to begin with except for overlords and sheep.

 
I've said many times, there is an 'Us' and a 'Them', but 'Us' is the ~ 300 million Americans (+/-) who want to get on with their day and 'Them' is the few hundred who would have you believe the 'Us/Them' is comprised of those 300 million Americans. 
sirdroseph

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Posted: Mar 21, 2013 - 10:22am

 gypsyman wrote:


Overlords and sheep? I will be laughing at that one all day.....may I borrow it?    {#Propeller} 

 

Sure, nothings truly original anyway!{#Lol}
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Posted: Mar 21, 2013 - 10:16am

 sirdroseph wrote:


I love it, hopefully the partisans will become confused and finally wake up realizing there was never really a "side" to begin with except for overlords and sheep.

 

Overlords and sheep? I will be laughing at that one all day.....may I borrow it?    {#Propeller} 
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Posted: Mar 21, 2013 - 10:08am

 gypsyman wrote:


The left has suddenly become the right. Got me an "A" in one of my political science courses. I didn't even have to elaborate.

 

I love it, hopefully the partisans will become confused and finally wake up realizing there was never really a "side" to begin with except for overlords and sheep.
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Posted: Mar 21, 2013 - 10:04am

 sirdroseph wrote: 

The left has suddenly become the right. Got me an "A" in one of my political science courses. I didn't even have to elaborate.
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Posted: Mar 21, 2013 - 9:55am

This comes from that right wing rag Huffington Post;

CIA's Gus Hunt On Big Data: We 'Try To Collect Everything And Hang On To It Forever'


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Posted: Mar 18, 2013 - 11:37am

 bokey wrote:

I guess if you post "I'm gonna take a leak and crash" you're going to Gitmo.
  When I was a boy I walked 5 miles barefoot in the snow to school where they taught about this thing we used to have back then called a Constitution.
 

Constitutions are for old farts.{#Lol}
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Posted: Mar 18, 2013 - 11:31am

 sirdroseph wrote:
There are a lot of benign words listed here, how are they supposed to know who to monitor and who not to? ?

Dept. of Homeland Security Forced to Release List of Keywords Used to Monitor Social Networking Sites



 
I guess if you post "I'm gonna take a leak and crash" you're going to Gitmo.
  When I was a boy I walked 5 miles barefoot in the snow to school where they taught about this thing we used to have back then called a Constitution.

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Posted: Mar 18, 2013 - 11:24am

There are a lot of benign words listed here, how are they supposed to know who to monitor and who not to??

Dept. of Homeland Security Forced to Release List of Keywords Used to Monitor Social Networking Sites


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Posted: Mar 15, 2013 - 9:17pm

 kurtster wrote:


True that.  Sird still hasn't got his stinger and the wife and I want hiz an herz AK's.

We'll let you know when we're ready ... or will we  ...

 
"They" will already know .
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Posted: Mar 15, 2013 - 7:54pm

Federal Judge Finds National Security Letters Unconstitutional, Bans Them

Ultra-secret national security letters that come with a gag order on the recipient are an unconstitutional impingement on free speech, a federal judge in California ruled in a decision released Friday.

U.S. District Judge Susan Illston ordered the government to stop issuing so-called NSLs across the board, in a stunning defeat for the Obama administration’s surveillance practices. She also ordered the government to cease enforcing the gag provision in any other cases. However, she stayed her order for 90 days to give the government a chance to appeal to the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals.

“We are very pleased that the Court recognized the fatal constitutional shortcomings of the NSL statute,” said Matt Zimmerman, senior staff attorney for the Electronic Frontier Foundation, which filed a challenge to NSLs on behalf of an unknown telecom that received an NSL in 2011. “The government’s gags have truncated the public debate on these controversial surveillance tools. Our client looks forward to the day when it can publicly discuss its experience.”

The telecommunications company received the ultra-secret demand letter in 2011 from the FBI seeking information about a customer or customers. The company took the extraordinary and rare step of challenging the underlying authority of the National Security Letter, as well as the legitimacy of the gag order that came with it.

more...


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Posted: Mar 15, 2013 - 7:11pm

 islander wrote:

We're all on the road to hell and will get there soon enough, no need to rush.

 

True that.  Sird still hasn't got his stinger and the wife and I want hiz an herz AK's.

We'll let you know when we're ready ... or will we  ...
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Posted: Mar 15, 2013 - 6:46pm

 sirdroseph wrote:


Did you even read the link? Must not have.  Please read the link and get back to me. It is from that crazy right wing Forbes magazine and has nothing to do with Sarah Palin, we are way past that dude.

The Department of Homeland Security (through the U.S. Army Forces Command) recently retrofitted 2,717 of these ‘Mine Resistant Protected’ vehicles for service on the streets of the United States.


Here, let the friendly officer give you a nice tour of the vehicles:



 
obviously there are a few here and dhs funds have been given to applicants/towns to purchase stuff like this (see domestic militarization links in this story too)

a colossal waste of hundreds of millions of dollars for sure (like we need to strap our children with more debt to fund something like this)

and they're going to be used somewhere, so it becomes a matter of geography

if it's considered a bad thing here, would it not be bad elsewhere?

enabling and facilitating senseless war is bad anywhere

and we're forced to pay regardless of moral and ethical objections

either that or we're robbed and or locked in a cage

and when brave souls come forward with evidence of this evil, like bradley manning/wikileaks, we lock them in a cage

where's the outrage?

we should be ashamed

regards


kurtster

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Posted: Mar 15, 2013 - 5:49pm

 islander wrote:

Broken clock theory says they will eventually get a scary story right though. And the more they get wrong just increases the odds that the *Next* one will be the real deal.

Alt conspiracy theory:  The .gov is planting all these fake stories to make the conspiracy theorists look bad and desensitize the populace for their opportunity to go big. 

 
Let's bring a couple of facts we might be able to agree on into the discussion.

The .gov is cooking the books.  Standard accounting practices have gone out the window everywhere except for maybe the CBO, but they get ignored by everyone anyway so they no longer matter.  Reference measurements for standard stats like the CPI and unemployment have been changed in order to not reflect reality and are accepted by everyone.   Especially the media who just blindy reports them without question or concern which adds credibility and acceptance of these bogus numbers. 

Work rules are being changed to redefine a full time worker for the purpose of health care benefits.  Full time positions are being changed to part time positions in order accomodate these new rules.  Regardless of how we got here, it is generally accepted that there are 9 miliion total fewer jobs (slots) available since the crash in 2008.  In order to remain even with population growth, 250k jobs must be created every month.  That is not and has not happened for a long time and will not anytime soon.  More people will become part time employees requiring them to work two jobs instead of one and end up with no health care benefits because of permanent part time status.  Underemployment will rise sharply. 

End of facts.

Meanwhile, we are told inflation is only 2% and unemployment is falling.  Real inflation as measured back in the 80's is closer to 8% and the real unemployment rate as measured long ago is closer to 20%.  I can provide support for these numbers if you really need it.  The only reason the Dow is going up is because interest rates are zero and there is no other place to put money.  The fed is printing $85 Billion a month and buying toxic debt with it.  The FDIC has changed the rules on deposit insurance for a total insured amount of $250k regardless of how many accounts you have it stashed in.  So technically any amount an individual has in the bank over $250K is taking a chance that the rest of it will actually be there.  2% inflation ?  How much longer are people gonna believe that its raining when it is really something much less pleasant.

This big healthcare thing is being trotted out now after the election for all to see and marvel over and wonder at.  This is the thing that we have all been waiting for to save us and turn this country around and be worthy of all the sacrifice and suffering it took to accomplish it.  What is going to happen when the reality of it sinks in and everyone discovers just how had they were and how bogus it is ?  The 15 page application for Obamacare has just been unveiled.  And that is only the application.  What happens when those who get Medicaid because of the increased income allowances find out that they cannot hold many assets and get coverage ?  Own a home ?  Sorry no Medicaid for you, you own something of value.  Have to sell it.  What ?  Underwater, no buyers ?  Too bad, so sad.  Oh, I know, you can turn it over to the .gov.  We'll give you some credit for it.

So the Dow is going to 20,000 ?  Life is gonna be ducky, forever.  Or we get a correction, interest rates take off and we have a whole lot of upset people who are majorly disappointed with the reality of Obamacare.  I guess the smart money is on the former.  All the wimps are cashing out too soon I guess, if I am to believe everyone I hear saying I'm crazy. 
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And I just decided that I am going to go and try and get certified to become A application filler outer helperer and get rich.  Just think of all those those in need who cannot read !  The public schools are turning them out in droves !


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