Broken clock theory says they will eventually get a scary story right though. And the more they get wrong just increases the odds that the *Next* one will be the real deal.
Alt conspiracy theory: The .gov is planting all these fake stories to make the conspiracy theorists look bad and desensitize the populace for their opportunity to go big.
Believe it or not I actually find that comforting if the majority are indeed going to the Navy and don't misunderstand my concern, it is not the concern of a conspiracy. I look at it more as a barometer of things to come watching the actions of the government. You know that those in power have more access to information, their behavior needs to be closely scrutinized as the canary in the coalmine. It is no coincidence that government, political leaders and military high end officers are the biggest clientele group of underground doomsday shelters, jes sayin.
Scrutinized, sure. Not lied about. Not panicked over.
Of course, you're not concerned about a conspiracy—you treated this bullshit urban legend as fact, reality to be dealt with. The government is preparing to put down massive civil unrest, here's the smoking gun...er, dripping water pistol. Whatever. On to the next.
When every single piece of evidence of impending doom turns out to be false do you ever think that maybe the conclusions you're drawing from that evidence might also be false? Or is the whole point to start with the conclusion and hack enough pieces off the truth to create the evidence?
Broken clock theory says they will eventually get a scary story right though. And the more they get wrong just increases the odds that the *Next* one will be the real deal.
Alt conspiracy theory: The .gov is planting all these fake stories to make the conspiracy theorists look bad and desensitize the populace for their opportunity to go big.
That is my bottom line as well. The words eminating as infered policy or denial mean nothing really. It is the actions that have meaning and are what is really worthy of attention.
I find it odd that the .gov is buying billions of rounds of ammunition, seperately from what the military buys for its operations. The civilian side of our .gov now has enough ammo that equals 10 rounds for every man, woman and child in this country and seeks to buy up even more. How much is enough and enough for what ? I saw a number that claimed our military only used about 70 or 80 million rounds annually.
Is there a benign reason for this ? If there is, I would love to hear it.
Believe it or not I actually find that comforting if the majority are indeed going to the Navy and don't misunderstand my concern, it is not the concern of a conspiracy. I look at it more as a barometer of things to come watching the actions of the government. You know that those in power have more access to information, their behavior needs to be closely scrutinized as the canary in the coalmine. It is no coincidence that government, political leaders and military high end officers are the biggest clientele group of underground doomsday shelters, jes sayin.
That is my bottom line as well. The words eminating as infered policy or denial mean nothing really. It is the actions that have meaning and are what is really worthy of attention.
I find it odd that the .gov is buying billions of rounds of ammunition, seperately from what the military buys for its operations. The civilian side of our .gov now has enough ammo that equals 10 rounds for every man, woman and child in this country and seeks to buy up even more. How much is enough and enough for what ? I saw a number that claimed our military only used about 70 or 80 million rounds annually.
Is there a benign reason for this ? If there is, I would love to hear it.
Believe it or not I actually find that comforting if the majority are indeed going to the Navy and don't misunderstand my concern, it is not the concern of a conspiracy. I look at it more as a barometer of things to come watching the actions of the government. You know that those in power have more access to information, their behavior needs to be closely scrutinized as the canary in the coalmine. It is no coincidence that government, political leaders and military high end officers are the biggest clientele group of underground doomsday shelters, jes sayin.
Scrutinized, sure. Not lied about. Not panicked over.
Of course, you're not concerned about a conspiracy—you treated this bullshit urban legend as fact, reality to be dealt with. The government is preparing to put down massive civil unrest, here's the smoking gun...er, dripping water pistol. Whatever. On to the next.
When every single piece of evidence of impending doom turns out to be false do you ever think that maybe the conclusions you're drawing from that evidence might also be false? Or is the whole point to start with the conclusion and hack enough pieces off the truth to create the evidence?
Did you even read the link? Must not have. Please read the link and get back to me. It is from that crazy right wing Forbes magazine and has nothing to do with Sarah Palin, we are way past that dude.
The Department of Homeland Security (through the U.S. Army Forces Command) recently retrofitted 2,717 of these ‘Mine Resistant Protected’ vehicles for service on the streets of the United States.
Here, let the friendly officer give you a nice tour of the vehicles:
Believe it or not I actually find that comforting if the majority are indeed going to the Navy and don't misunderstand my concern, it is not the concern of a conspiracy. I look at it more as a barometer of things to come watching the actions of the government. You know that those in power have more access to information, their behavior needs to be closely scrutinized as the canary in the coalmine. It is no coincidence that government, political leaders and military high end officers are the biggest clientele group of underground doomsday shelters, jes sayin.
I'm just pointing out that there are far more options (most of them more likely) than a sinister conspiracy to seize control. The standard explanations of greed and incompetence fit pretty well here.
I'm not all thrilled that we are militarizing our police. Just having a well armed SWAT team standing around seems to lead most police forces to go looking for a reason to use them. And although I have a healthy respect for people in law enforcement, I also know that there are a fair number of bully wanna be asshats in the ranks as well. So again: it's a bad idea, but not because the .gov is looking to take over when the zombies break free, it's because bubba doesn't need and can't be trusted with a tank.
The sequester? That's only ~ 85 billion It's barely a weeks worth of spending. If there wasn't money to be made with government contracts, the big companies wouldn't be seeking them. I bet there is plenty of margin left in the 3.75+ Trillion (Trillion with a freaking T) that they will still spend this year.
I would agree with you. There are, I believe, reasons to be concerned about a chance of riots or demonstrations in this country, as well as the chance that there will be some natural or manmade disaster that will require crowd control.
I noticed on the expressways in Chicago gates have been put up at entrances, so the roads can be closed down if necessary.
We live in a dangerous world. SirD, maybe the gov is just preparing like you are.
Actually I agree and that is exactly what I have been saying. We must be vigilant to keep up.
Did you even read the link? Must not have. Please read the link and get back to me. It is from that crazy right wing Forbes magazine and has nothing to do with Sarah Palin, we are way past that dude.
The Department of Homeland Security (through the U.S. Army Forces Command) recently retrofitted 2,717 of these ‘Mine Resistant Protected’ vehicles for service on the streets of the United States.
Here, let the friendly officer give you a nice tour of the vehicles:
I'm just pointing out that there are far more options (most of them more likely) than a sinister conspiracy to seize control. The standard explanations of greed and incompetence fit pretty well here.
I'm not all thrilled that we are militarizing our police. Just having a well armed SWAT team standing around seems to lead most police forces to go looking for a reason to use them. And although I have a healthy respect for people in law enforcement, I also know that there are a fair number of bully wanna be asshats in the ranks as well. So again: it's a bad idea, but not because the .gov is looking to take over when the zombies break free, it's because bubba doesn't need and can't be trusted with a tank.
The sequester? That's only ~ 85 billion It's barely a weeks worth of spending. If there wasn't money to be made with government contracts, the big companies wouldn't be seeking them. I bet there is plenty of margin left in the 3.75+ Trillion (Trillion with a freaking T) that they will still spend this year.
I would agree with you. There are, I believe, reasons to be concerned about a chance of riots or demonstrations in this country, as well as the chance that there will be some natural or manmade disaster that will require crowd control.
I noticed on the expressways in Chicago gates have been put up at entrances, so the roads can be closed down if necessary.
We live in a dangerous world. SirD, maybe the gov is just preparing like you are.
I'm just pointing out that there are far more options (most of them more likely) than a sinister conspiracy to seize control. The standard explanations of greed and incompetence fit pretty well here.
I'm not all thrilled that we are militarizing our police. Just having a well armed SWAT team standing around seems to lead most police forces to go looking for a reason to use them. And although I have a healthy respect for people in law enforcement, I also know that there are a fair number of bully wanna be asshats in the ranks as well. So again: it's a bad idea, but not because the .gov is looking to take over when the zombies break free, it's because bubba doesn't need and can't be trusted with a tank.
The sequester? That's only ~ 85 billion It's barely a weeks worth of spending. If there wasn't money to be made with government contracts, the big companies wouldn't be seeking them. I bet there is plenty of margin left in the 3.75+ Trillion (Trillion with a freaking T) that they will still spend this year.
Yea, I gotta agree with you there, especially the last sentence.
Ok firstly, how about neither? I go with choice C. those in charge know something we don't and are gearing up to control the citizens in the case of social collapse, has nothing to do with Democrats or Republicans at all. You guys seem to not be able to see anything out of the Democrat, Republican, liberal, conservative prism the powers that be have trained us all to think in all of these years that you automatically think that I am trying to discredit Democrats or Obama. I don't even think that way, Obama does not even really exist in my eyes as anything but a cardboard cutout representative of the military industrial complex and the corporate elite ruling class.
Secondly, there is money available? White House tells us that the sequester is shutting everything down, all the money is dried up and the economy is going to collapse (maybe they actually believe that and are preparing?). So even if you believe all of the reasons that the government is giving for building a domestic war machine, first with the sequester, how did they get the funds and secondly, they obviously did get the funds how do you feel about them spending so much money on ammo and military vehicles whilst cutting Medicare, Medicaid and other social programs?
I'm just pointing out that there are far more options (most of them more likely) than a sinister conspiracy to seize control. The standard explanations of greed and incompetence fit pretty well here.
I'm not all thrilled that we are militarizing our police. Just having a well armed SWAT team standing around seems to lead most police forces to go looking for a reason to use them. And although I have a healthy respect for people in law enforcement, I also know that there are a fair number of bully wanna be asshats in the ranks as well. So again: it's a bad idea, but not because the .gov is looking to take over when the zombies break free, it's because bubba doesn't need and can't be trusted with a tank.
The sequester? That's only ~ 85 billion It's barely a weeks worth of spending. If there wasn't money to be made with government contracts, the big companies wouldn't be seeking them. I bet there is plenty of margin left in the 3.75+ Trillion (Trillion with a freaking T) that they will still spend this year.
So here are two scenarios, tell me which one you think is more plausible:
a. Military guy with connections in DHS knows there is money available. He gets a hold of surplus military vehicles and reworks them to fit the spec for DHS. ...Profit!
b. Government (led mostly by Democrats) decides to militarize to hold control (despite convincing margins of victory in recent elections and disarray in the opposing party). They devise a crafty plan to utilize military vehicles to bolster their forces. They then put a commercial for said vehicles on the internet to keep it a secret.
I know, I'm naive, can't connect the dots, am insulated in my ivory tower, cheese eating surrender monkey, can't grow a real beard...
Ok firstly, how about neither? I go with choice C. those in charge know something we don't and are gearing up to control the citizens in the case of social collapse, has nothing to do with Democrats or Republicans at all. You guys seem to not be able to see anything out of the Democrat, Republican, liberal, conservative prism the powers that be have trained us all to think in all of these years that you automatically think that I am trying to discredit Democrats or Obama. I don't even think that way, Obama does not even really exist in my eyes as anything but a cardboard cutout representative of the military industrial complex and the corporate elite ruling class.
Secondly, there is money available? White House tells us that the sequester is shutting everything down, all the money is dried up and the economy is going to collapse (maybe they actually believe that and are preparing?). So even if you believe all of the reasons that the government is giving for building a domestic war machine, first with the sequester, how did they get the funds and secondly, they obviously did get the funds how do you feel about them spending so much money on ammo and military vehicles whilst cutting Medicare, Medicaid and other social programs?
Here, let the friendly officer give you a nice tour of the vehicles:
So here are two scenarios, tell me which one you think is more plausible:
a. Military guy with connections in DHS knows there is money available. He gets a hold of surplus military vehicles and reworks them to fit the spec for DHS. ...Profit!
b. Government (led mostly by Democrats) decides to militarize to hold control (despite convincing margins of victory in recent elections and disarray in the opposing party). They devise a crafty plan to utilize military vehicles to bolster their forces. They then put a commercial for said vehicles on the internet to keep it a secret.
I know, I'm naive, can't connect the dots, am insulated in my ivory tower, cheese eating surrender monkey, can't grow a real beard...
Dude, if your idea of "independent" political thinking is regurgitating right wing conspiracy theories, you should at least pick ones that aren't instantly recognizable as recycled old BS via Sarah Palin and Alex Jones.
Did you even read the link? Must not have. Please read the link and get back to me. It is from that crazy right wing Forbes magazine and has nothing to do with Sarah Palin, we are way past that dude.
The Department of Homeland Security (through the U.S. Army Forces Command) recently retrofitted 2,717 of these ‘Mine Resistant Protected’ vehicles for service on the streets of the United States.
Here, let the friendly officer give you a nice tour of the vehicles:
Yea I saw this one too, the DHS scarfing up ammo and buying urban assault vehicles all over the country looks like it has finally been accepted by mainstream media as beyond reasonable explanation fodder now as well. I just think that everyone already knows all this and those that care do and those that don't, don't. Vatta u gonna do?
Dude, if your idea of "independent" political thinking is regurgitating right wing conspiracy theories, you should at least pick ones that aren't instantly recognizable as recycled old BS via Sarah Palin and Alex Jones.
Partly apathy, partly political partisianship and the rest is standard human nature sprinkled with some jingoism that "well at least only the towel heads are getting it and our boys are safe."
Perhaps the 300 million learned their lesson when Bush went to war anyway - they don't matter, so why bother.
Partly apathy, partly political partisianship and the rest is standard human nature sprinkled with some jingoism that "well at least only the towel heads are getting it and our boys are safe."
