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Posted: Jun 23, 2013 - 8:55pm

 bokey wrote:

I blame this on the full moon,but I agree with Dragon.

 I think the guy is a hero.

 It's easy to keep your mouth shut and collect your paycheck,but to sacrifice everything for the greater good of making people aware of this?

 Of course folks like you and I knew about it all along,but this guy slammed down the truth in NSA's face,knowing there is only one way it will end for him.

 I think maybe the people who have been "granted" Top Security clearances and know what goes on,yet say nothing perhaps are the misguided ones.

One of my favorite quotes of all time-

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."-Edmund Burke

 
I believe his revelation to the world was a double-edged sword for all the reasons the talking heads in media have proffered up on the Sunday news shows today. Yay: he told us our worst fears are true. Boo: Those that would do us harm have a leg up on how our governments are 'doing things'. He gave all thinking it will change things...but, it won't. Just like the recent scandals in D.C.(imagined or not) this will get swept under the carpet, the current WH administration and a willing Media machine will see to that.

I read with great interest what Chris Boyce said about him and agree with him that Snowden probably didn't think this one through very thoroughly; I believe Boyce said, and I paraphrase a bit here, that Snowden has 'brought the weight of a mountain on himself, his family, etc. with his decision' his life is totally fucked from here on in. There were other ways this bring this to light, but he CHOSE the spotlight.

Ed Snowdens life is hereby done, he will live the rest of his life looking over his shoulder, if he didn't trust anyone before he'll never be able to now. Wherever he winds up I'm pretty confident those around him won't have his interests in mind. If he wasn't a pawn before this, he will be now.
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Posted: Jun 23, 2013 - 7:01pm

 Monkeysdad wrote:


Sadly, the poor misguided SOB brought it upon himself.

 
I blame this on the full moon, but I agree with Dragon.

 I think the guy is a hero.

 It's easy to keep your mouth shut and collect your paycheck, but to sacrifice everything for the greater good of making people aware of this?

 Of course folks like you and I knew about it all along, but this guy slammed down the truth in NSA's face, knowing there is only one way it will end for him.

 I think maybe the people who have been "granted" Top Security clearances and know what goes on, yet say nothing perhaps are the misguided ones.

One of my favorite quotes of all time-

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. "-Edmund Burke
Red_Dragon

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Location: Dumbf*ckistan


Posted: Jun 23, 2013 - 6:32pm

 Monkeysdad wrote:


Sadly, the poor misguided SOB brought it upon himself.

 
apparently we're gonna disagree on this one, Bill.
Monkeysdad

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Posted: Jun 23, 2013 - 5:48pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:

Sadly, there's probably no place on this planet he can find refuge. America has become the evil empire.

 



Sadly, the poor misguided SOB brought it upon himself.
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Jun 23, 2013 - 2:45pm

 2cats wrote:

He is now seeking asylum in Ecuador.

 
Sadly, there's probably no place on this planet he can find refuge. America has become the evil empire.
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Posted: Jun 23, 2013 - 11:10am

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He is now seeking asylum in Ecuador.
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Posted: Jun 23, 2013 - 7:29am

you need to watch this...


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Posted: Jun 23, 2013 - 12:52am

Snowden leaves Hong Kong on commercial flight to Moscow

bokey

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Posted: Jun 22, 2013 - 3:53pm

 RichardPrins wrote:
Snowden spy row grows as US is accused of hacking China
Whistleblower charged with espionage reportedly claims US authorities accessed millions of private text messages in China

In Depth Review: New NSA Documents Expose How Americans Can Be Spied on Without A Warrant | Electronic Frontier Foundation


Edward Snowden, the former CIA technician, on a banner in Hong Kong. Photograph: Philippe Lopez/AFP

 
This guy is a true patriot and hero. He should get the Nobel Peace prize instead of being persecuted for telling the truth.
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Posted: Jun 22, 2013 - 3:42pm

Snowden spy row grows as US is accused of hacking China
Whistleblower charged with espionage reportedly claims US authorities accessed millions of private text messages in China

In Depth Review: New NSA Documents Expose How Americans Can Be Spied on Without A Warrant | Electronic Frontier Foundation


Edward Snowden, the former CIA technician, on a banner in Hong Kong. Photograph: Philippe Lopez/AFP
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Posted: Jun 22, 2013 - 11:04am


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Posted: Jun 21, 2013 - 1:10pm

GCHQ taps fibre-optic cables for secret access to world's communications
Exclusive: British spy agency collects and stores vast quantities of global email messages, Facebook posts, internet histories and calls, and shares them with NSA, latest documents from Edward Snowden reveal


Edward J. Snowden, the former National Security Agency contractor whose leak of agency documents has set off a national debate over the proper limits of government surveillance, has been charged with violating the Espionage Act and theft of government property for disclosing classified information to The Guardian and The Washington Post, officials said on Friday.

bokey

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Posted: Jun 20, 2013 - 10:30am

 cc_rider wrote:

There are a number of little police forces that have purchased armored assault vehicles through DHS. Does Mayberry need a TANK to keep law and order? Are us rabble out in the sticks getting so out-of-control the jackboots need armored vehicles now?

 
  All cops, council members and local politicians should be vetted to make sure they never owned G. I Joes as a kid. {#Lol}


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Posted: Jun 20, 2013 - 8:36am

 sirdroseph wrote:


Dues are paid with 2 bits of pure silver of course. The ring is on the way, but naturally it will be coming by passenger pigeon.{#Propeller} {#Daisy}

 
I saw what you did there...
sirdroseph

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Posted: Jun 20, 2013 - 8:31am

 cc_rider wrote:

Thank you for the warm welcome. What are the dues, and when do I get my secret decoder ring?

 

Dues are paid with 2 bits of pure silver of course. The ring is on the way, but naturally it will be coming by passenger pigeon.{#Propeller} {#Daisy}
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Posted: Jun 20, 2013 - 8:25am

 sirdroseph wrote:


You have been gone awhiile CC, I was on this one too, but apparently if you are concerned with this you wear a tin foil hat.  Well, welcome to the tin foil hat club.{#Wave}

 
Thank you for the warm welcome. What are the dues, and when do I get my secret decoder ring?
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Posted: Jun 20, 2013 - 8:03am

 cc_rider wrote:

There are a number of little police forces that have purchased armored assault vehicles through DHS. Does Mayberry need a TANK to keep law and order? Are us rabble out in the sticks getting so out-of-control the jackboots need armored vehicles now?

 

You have been gone awhiile CC, I was on this one too, but apparently if you are concerned with this you wear a tin foil hat.  Well, welcome to the tin foil hat club.{#Wave}
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Jun 20, 2013 - 7:55am

 cc_rider wrote:

There are a number of little police forces that have purchased armored assault vehicles through DHS. Does Mayberry need a TANK to keep law and order? Are us rabble out in the sticks getting so out-of-control the jackboots need armored vehicles now?

 
Yes. Yes you are. Pack a bag.
cc_rider

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Posted: Jun 20, 2013 - 7:53am

 bokey wrote:
Most of the local county police forces have them around here.
 
There are a number of little police forces that have purchased armored assault vehicles through DHS. Does Mayberry need a TANK to keep law and order? Are us rabble out in the sticks getting so out-of-control the jackboots need armored vehicles now?
bokey

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Posted: Jun 20, 2013 - 6:51am

 Red_Dragon wrote:
Better add FBI, ATF & DEA to the thread title. Heard a news story yesterday that they also have drones. I almost wish I still had a rifle; I wouldn't shoot a human with one anymore but I'd gleefully take down some of those things.

 
Most of the local county police forces have them around here.


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