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BlueHeronDruid

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Posted: Sep 21, 2021 - 5:28pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:


sold



Great. Now folks will mistake me for you.
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Posted: Sep 21, 2021 - 5:21pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:




I took a hiatus from making shirts for Every Damn Thing™ but I'm back at it...


sold
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Posted: Sep 21, 2021 - 4:32pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:




I took a hiatus from making shirts for Every Damn Thing™ but I'm back at it...



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Posted: Sep 21, 2021 - 3:40pm

 haresfur wrote:

I suppose by next year, they will be passe and we we need a new bird to amuse us. My vote will be for the Australian Crow who's call sounds like it is the throws of orgasm.

How the 'bin chicken' became a totem for modern Australia






I took a hiatus from making shirts for Every Damn Thing™ but I'm back at it...
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Posted: Sep 21, 2021 - 12:52am

Maybe the Chinese are already a big step ahead of Australia's latest submarine decision.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/20...

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Posted: Sep 20, 2021 - 1:22pm

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

{#Ask}
  it's dark down here?  lots a sharks with no fins?  the mind boggles


Maybe with nuke subs the Ozzies won't lose that feckin' continent quite so often.
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Posted: Sep 20, 2021 - 11:56am

 westslope wrote:

The only advantage I see, is that Aussie nuke subs can a make a bigger contribution to intelligence gathering.  But for some of China's more egregious acts of territorial aggression, is better intelligence really required? 

 
{#Ask}  it's dark down here?  lots a sharks with no fins?  the mind boggles
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Posted: Sep 20, 2021 - 11:55am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:
 
oh, can you help? Australia is hurt....?

erstrerlier hers herrt ower ferlingza

frenchaccent*
Australia has hurt our feelings
/frenchaccent

*or maybe Patton Oswalt
 
{#Lol} meh-see
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Posted: Sep 20, 2021 - 11:46am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:
 
oh, can you help? Australia is hurt....?



erstrerlier hers herrt ower ferlingza

frenchaccent*
Australia has hurt our feelings
/frenchaccent

*or maybe Patton Oswalt
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Posted: Sep 20, 2021 - 11:41am

ScottFromWyoming wrote:
 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

Erstrerlier hers herrt ower ferlingza

I actually went to translate.google.com before I got it.
 
oh, can you help? Australia is hurt....?
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Posted: Sep 20, 2021 - 11:38am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

Erstrerlier hers herrt ower ferlingza

I actually went to translate.google.com before I got it.
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Posted: Sep 20, 2021 - 11:23am

 miamizsun wrote:


yes 
food more or less is the limiting factor
i saw where they're probably going to lease a retiring los angeles class boat to get familiar before they get a virginia
if i heard the talking heads correctly
who knows with politics...


Could have just sold us a used one instead of decommissioning it, treaties be damned
(photo of reactor compartments from decommissioned subs)
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Posted: Sep 20, 2021 - 11:11am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

that dog is a national treasure.

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Posted: Sep 20, 2021 - 10:46am

 cc_rider wrote:

Simple: endless energy source. Along with that comes a host of advantages:
A nuke sub can stay submerged for weeks if necessary. It does not need oxygen to burn fuel, or tens of thousands of gallons of fuel. I don't know, but I suspect it can be quieter than a combustion engine. Because the energy is practically free - within reason of course - they can maintain a relatively higher standard-of-living than conventional subs.

Sure it's a lot more expense up front, but the advantages far outweigh the investment.
c.



True.  A nuke sub can stay submerged for longer.   Quieter sounds right.

Practically what does this mean?   Australia is not about to fire at Chinese targets.

The only advantage I see, is that Aussie nuke subs can a make a bigger contribution to intelligence gathering.  But for some of China's more egregious acts of territorial aggression, is better intelligence really required? 

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Posted: Sep 20, 2021 - 10:13am

 cc_rider wrote:

Simple: endless energy source. Along with that comes a host of advantages:
A nuke sub can stay submerged for weeks if necessary. It does not need oxygen to burn fuel, or tens of thousands of gallons of fuel. I don't know, but I suspect it can be quieter than a combustion engine. Because the energy is practically free - within reason of course - they can maintain a relatively higher standard-of-living than conventional subs.

Sure it's a lot more expense up front, but the advantages far outweigh the investment.
c.




Much, much quieter. And in submarine warfare, quiet is everything.
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Posted: Sep 20, 2021 - 9:21am

 cc_rider wrote:

Simple: endless energy source. Along with that comes a host of advantages:
A nuke sub can stay submerged for weeks if necessary. It does not need oxygen to burn fuel, or tens of thousands of gallons of fuel. I don't know, but I suspect it can be quieter than a combustion engine. Because the energy is practically free - within reason of course - they can maintain a relatively higher standard-of-living than conventional subs.

Sure it's a lot more expense up front, but the advantages far outweigh the investment.
c.



yes 
food more or less is the limiting factor
i saw where they're probably going to lease a retiring los angeles class boat to get familiar before they get a virginia
if i heard the talking heads correctly
who knows with politics...
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Posted: Sep 20, 2021 - 8:51am

 westslope wrote:

The big question that is not being addressed:   why go to the extra expense of a nuclear-powered submarine?

What exactly can a nuclear-powered submarine accomplish that is either impossible or more difficult for a conventional submarine?


Simple: endless energy source. Along with that comes a host of advantages:
A nuke sub can stay submerged for weeks if necessary. It does not need oxygen to burn fuel, or tens of thousands of gallons of fuel. I don't know, but I suspect it can be quieter than a combustion engine. Because the energy is practically free - within reason of course - they can maintain a relatively higher standard-of-living than conventional subs.

Sure it's a lot more expense up front, but the advantages far outweigh the investment.
c.


westslope

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Posted: Sep 20, 2021 - 7:35am

The big question that is not being addressed:   why go to the extra expense of a nuclear-powered submarine?

What exactly can a nuclear-powered submarine accomplish that is either impossible or more difficult for a conventional submarine?


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Posted: Sep 20, 2021 - 1:40am

last first dog on the moon
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Posted: Sep 18, 2021 - 7:47am

 haresfur wrote:

The common practice in Australia is for the government (state or federal) to write a huge cancellation fee into the contract along with payments heavily weighted up front as a poison pill to keep the next government from changing things. Then the next government says, "Screw you" and cancels anyway. Win-win.



i listened to the economist radio/podcast earlier ("the intelligence" portion)
i learned a bit about a more complete picture
ask your smart speaker to play it
because devilish details

enjoy and stay safe 
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