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rgio

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Location: West Jersey
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Posted: Oct 8, 2020 - 7:09am



 steeler wrote:


 kurtster wrote:
Two takeaways for me. 

Yes, Biden / Harris will pack the SCOTUS.

Biden / Harris will not accept the vaccines developed under Trump and start the process all over again and lockdown the country and impose a mask mandate until another round of vaccines has been developed and proven to their satisfaction, regardless of how long it takes or what it does to this country negatively.  They will never allow any vaccine that could be attributed to Trump's guidance to be put into distribution.  It will have to be a 100% democratic effort.
 
She said she would take the vaccine if Dr. Fauci said it was ready. I have heard quite a few  people  (in person) say the exact same thing. 

 
Trump has spent 4 years fighting science.  He won't acknowledge global warming.  Pence last night wouldn't accept it.  He has done everything possible to contradict guidance from science on the pandemic (which is why we're failing so badly at managing it).  He has loosened the process on FDA approvals and has promoted dangerous medications.  Hell, the NEJM for the first time is backing a Presidential candidate in the interest of public health.  He is going to announce a vaccine before November 3....it's just a given.  On November 5th he'll backpedal....but he's going to troll for votes.

Trump has no involvement in the pharmaceutical aspects of a vaccine.  If the medical community delivers a vaccine that is safe and reliable, most American's will take it.  The issue shouldn't be political, and 100% of the blame belongs to the President.

sunybuny

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Posted: Oct 8, 2020 - 5:21am



 Red_Dragon wrote:


 Steely_D wrote:

Including no ability to take instructions, especially from the woman in charge.
 


the horror

 
Next thing you know he'll have to be in a room alone with a woman



Red_Dragon

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Posted: Oct 8, 2020 - 4:57am

Fly - symbol of rot, wasting away, decay, death, melancholia

A fly hovering over a church official or nobleman indicates disfavor with the king or corruption and dereliction of duty.


Hidden symbolism in Western art... historyofpaainters.com
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Posted: Oct 7, 2020 - 9:41pm

 kurtster wrote:
Weak sauce.

steeler

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Location: Perched on the precipice of the cauldron of truth


Posted: Oct 7, 2020 - 9:32pm



 kurtster wrote:
Two takeaways for me. 

Yes, Biden / Harris will pack the SCOTUS.

Biden / Harris will not accept the vaccines developed under Trump and start the process all over again and lockdown the country and impose a mask mandate until another round of vaccines has been developed and proven to their satisfaction, regardless of how long it takes or what it does to this country negatively.  They will never allow any vaccine that could be attributed to Trump's guidance to be put into distribution.  It will have to be a 100% democratic effort.
 
She said she would take the vaccine if Dr. Fauci said it was ready. I have heard quite a few  people  (in person) say the exact same thing. 

kcar

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Posted: Oct 7, 2020 - 9:15pm



 kurtster wrote:
Two takeaways for me. 

Yes, Biden / Harris will pack the SCOTUS.

Biden / Harris will not accept the vaccines developed under Trump and start the process all over again and lockdown the country and impose a mask mandate until another round of vaccines has been developed and proven to their satisfaction, regardless of how long it takes or what it does to this country negatively.  They will never allow any vaccine that could be attributed to Trump's guidance to be put into distribution.  It will have to be a 100% democratic effort.

 


Oh, and it's spelled "dewd"...    
kurtster

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Posted: Oct 7, 2020 - 8:34pm

Two takeaways for me. 

Yes, Biden / Harris will pack the SCOTUS.

Biden / Harris will not accept the vaccines developed under Trump and start the process all over again and lockdown the country and impose a mask mandate until another round of vaccines has been developed and proven to their satisfaction, regardless of how long it takes or what it does to this country negatively.  They will never allow any vaccine that could be attributed to Trump's guidance to be put into distribution.  It will have to be a 100% democratic effort.
kcar

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Posted: Oct 7, 2020 - 8:33pm



 Steely_D wrote:
MOST ENTERTAINING PART OF THE DEBATE

The dark black fly walking around on Mike Pence's bright white hair for a good couple of minutes and no one bothered to tell him.

#BLACKFLIESMATTER



 

The fly was playing bongos on Pence's hollow melon.   
R_P

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Posted: Oct 7, 2020 - 8:14pm

Satan trying to distract him!
Steely_D

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Posted: Oct 7, 2020 - 8:04pm

MOST ENTERTAINING PART OF THE DEBATE

The dark black fly walking around on Mike Pence's bright white hair for a good couple of minutes and no one bothered to tell him.

#BLACKFLIESMATTER



Red_Dragon

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Posted: Oct 7, 2020 - 7:54pm



 Steely_D wrote:

Including no ability to take instructions, especially from the woman in charge.
 


the horror

Steely_D

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Posted: Oct 7, 2020 - 7:51pm



 Red_Dragon wrote:
Pence has nothing. Nothing.
 

Including no ability to take instructions, especially from the woman in charge.
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Posted: Oct 7, 2020 - 6:55pm

Pence has nothing. Nothing.
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Posted: Oct 7, 2020 - 1:27pm



 Proclivities wrote:


 sirdroseph wrote:
They sent applications for absentee ballots with pre populated information so if you fill out the application for the ballot and tell them the address to mail it to and they will mail you the ballot to fill out. They actually started doing this the last election and when people did this either purposely by someone else or attempting to do an absentee ballot and vote or by accident by not understanding fully the process and accidentally attempting to vote and they were flagged because the people did vote in person as well; they are actually being prosecuted by the state of Georgia which is ridiculous because the state of Georgia is the one who sent out the unsolicited ballot applications so this is entrapment in a way. They are actually prosecuting 5000 people; most of them guilty because they did attempt to vote twice, but some may have not had malicious intent. The main point is here is we are relying on the postal service to be an integral backbone of the election process, something it was not designed or intended to be. Not to mention the Postmaster General being appointed by the President, you also have the Postal Union endorsing Biden which is their right, but presents a possible conflict of interest when all of the sudden these are the people handling our ballots in such large unprecedented numbers. Like I said, this election will produce no comfortably untainted result for anyone regardless of who wins and that is the only one hundred percent certainty of this whole election. Mark my words, there will be no winner.{#Sad}
 
Perhaps there are rarely real winners (despite the lyrics of that great song by Hot Chocolate) but applications for ballots are entirely different from actual ballots, the two terms cannot be used interchangeably, unless one's desire is to spread disinformation and/or try to foment a distrust in the election process.  I can be reasonably sure that no one has received 5 ballots - particularly at someone else's address. 
About 1000 (according to the GA Att'y Gen'l) voters in the GA primary and run-off elections tried to vote in person after sending in absentee ballots (which is what Trump recently advised Republicans in NC to do); most of of them are being investigated, not prosecuted (yet).   Apparently, that AG is pretty animated about it though.
 

SecState of Utah was on NPR this morning (I think) and he was sort of chuckling about all the "fraud" that amounts to parents filling out absentee ballots for their kids who are away on their mission... he says they get quite a few of those but they have humans looking at every signature for obvious problems and other than college kids or missionaries, they don't see any deliberate fraud to speak of. 

Yes, those are still fraud and invalid votes, but they don't storm the parents' houses or anything.
westslope

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Posted: Oct 7, 2020 - 1:24pm



 Ohmsen wrote:
Stereotype thinking seems to be your profession, and that "white trash" one particularly seems to be driving you. 
(No offense meant... none taken.)
 

Thanks you for the comment Ohmsen.    You probably did not understand anything of what I wrote but that is OK.

Power to the White Trash!!! 

Proclivities

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Posted: Oct 7, 2020 - 12:28pm



 sirdroseph wrote:
They sent applications for absentee ballots with pre populated information so if you fill out the application for the ballot and tell them the address to mail it to and they will mail you the ballot to fill out. They actually started doing this the last election and when people did this either purposely by someone else or attempting to do an absentee ballot and vote or by accident by not understanding fully the process and accidentally attempting to vote and they were flagged because the people did vote in person as well; they are actually being prosecuted by the state of Georgia which is ridiculous because the state of Georgia is the one who sent out the unsolicited ballot applications so this is entrapment in a way. They are actually prosecuting 5000 people; most of them guilty because they did attempt to vote twice, but some may have not had malicious intent. The main point is here is we are relying on the postal service to be an integral backbone of the election process, something it was not designed or intended to be. Not to mention the Postmaster General being appointed by the President, you also have the Postal Union endorsing Biden which is their right, but presents a possible conflict of interest when all of the sudden these are the people handling our ballots in such large unprecedented numbers. Like I said, this election will produce no comfortably untainted result for anyone regardless of who wins and that is the only one hundred percent certainty of this whole election. Mark my words, there will be no winner.{#Sad}
 
Perhaps there are rarely real winners (despite the lyrics of that great song by Hot Chocolate) but applications for ballots are entirely different from actual ballots, the two terms cannot be used interchangeably, unless one's desire is to spread disinformation and/or try to foment a distrust in the election process.  I can be reasonably sure that no one has received 5 ballots - particularly at someone else's address. 
About 1000 (according to the GA Att'y Gen'l) voters in the GA primary and run-off elections tried to vote in person after sending in absentee ballots (which is what Trump recently advised Republicans in NC to do); most of of them are being investigated, not prosecuted (yet).   Apparently, that AG is pretty animated about it though.
rgio

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Posted: Oct 7, 2020 - 12:00pm



 sirdroseph wrote:

Or you could vote in person, there is always that.  I hear tell people used to do that sort of thing. I will not have this problem.
 
Not in NJ.  If you show up to the polls, you'll be filling in the same form and it will be counted the same way.  You just get to wait in line and hang with others for the day!

sirdroseph

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Posted: Oct 7, 2020 - 11:58am

 rgio wrote:


 islander wrote:


 sirdroseph wrote:

I think you may have missed the point.  The point is with all of these proven numerous ballots sometimes going to wrong addresses with different peoples addresses on there it invites people to vote for them and have that vote counted if the actual person does not vote at all. This is real.  They should in theory catch anyone trying to vote more than once, but what about the possible thousands of people that did not even vote themselves, but had others vote in their names? 
 

This is a nice fantasy, but there have been several investigations - heck, even a presidential commision on voter fraud.  A handfull of cases were noted, but I have yet to see anything widespread or substantial enough to impact an outcome. And it seems like most of them were also caught and punished.
 
The ballots all require signatures, so it's awfully hard to vote on behalf of someone else.  The real problem isn't fraud, it's honest, real votes being rejected because signatures aren't a "match".   SIgnatures change over time.  The real warning to people is to sit down and sign it at a table, at the proper angle, as you would a driver's license or adoption papers....your vote may very well depend on it.

 
Or you could vote in person, there is always that.  I hear tell people used to do that sort of thing. I will not have this problem and don't have to worry about all of these what ifs?  Seems to me if one valued the integrity of their vote, they would do everything in their power to insure it is cast accurately.  People talk about how the vote is the most important form of protest and expression one can do. So many have fought so hard and some even died for the right to cast their ballot, if my ancestors were amongst them I would damn sure make sure my vote counted out of respect for them if nothing else. 
rgio

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Posted: Oct 7, 2020 - 11:57am



 islander wrote:


 sirdroseph wrote:

I think you may have missed the point.  The point is with all of these proven numerous ballots sometimes going to wrong addresses with different peoples addresses on there it invites people to vote for them and have that vote counted if the actual person does not vote at all. This is real.  They should in theory catch anyone trying to vote more than once, but what about the possible thousands of people that did not even vote themselves, but had others vote in their names? 
 

This is a nice fantasy, but there have been several investigations - heck, even a presidential commision on voter fraud.  A handfull of cases were noted, but I have yet to see anything widespread or substantial enough to impact an outcome. And it seems like most of them were also caught and punished.
 
The ballots all require signatures, so it's awfully hard to vote on behalf of someone else.  The real problem isn't fraud, it's honest, real votes being rejected because signatures aren't a "match".   SIgnatures change over time.  The real warning to people is to sit down and sign it at a table, at the proper angle, as you would a driver's license or adoption papers....your vote may very well depend on it.

EDIT: the other warning is to not gather up votes from family, friends, neighbors...and save everyone a trip to the dropbox.  Camera's and observers are going to be looking for the person with a dozen votes.  Each individual should drop it either at the Post Office or a collection location/box in person (like they were voting).

sirdroseph

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Posted: Oct 7, 2020 - 11:51am

 Proclivities wrote:


 sirdroseph wrote:
Well the good news is our voter participation woes are solved.  I predict voter turnout to be about 137% this year.   Hell we have received at least 5 ballots so far and I am pretty sure someone else received a couple more of our ballots.   Does present a concern though.  I am going to vote in person on election day.  Will they notify me that I have already sent in 3 or 4 ballots by mail then or will they allow me to vote and then prosecute me for voter fraud because I attempted to vote 5 times like they are already doing to some people here in Georgia?
   Oh y'all worried now ain't ya?
 
According to the information I could find, only seven states are mailing non-requested, official absentee ballots to all eligible voters; Georgia is not among them.  Georgia is not even mailing applications for absentee voting. 
I've been getting a number of "official looking", thick letters in larger-than-average-size envelopes from The Center For Voter Information, and some other senders with information about absentee voting and early voting, but absentee ballots are not sent out in NC unless specifically requested.  I'm not sure what you're getting in the mail, unless the GA Board of Elections changed their policy.
 
They sent applications for absentee ballots with pre populated information so if you fill out the application for the ballot and tell them the address to mail it to and they will mail you the ballot to fill out.  They actually started doing this the last election and when people did this either purposely by someone else or attempting to do an absentee ballot and vote or by accident by not understanding fully the process and accidentally attempting to vote and they were flagged because the people did vote in person as well; they are actually being prosecuted by the state of Georgia which is ridiculous because the state of Georgia is the one who sent out the unsolicited ballot applications so this is entrapment in a way.  They are actually prosecuting 5000 people; most of them guilty because they did attempt to vote twice, but some may have not had malicious intent.  The main point is here is we are relying on the postal service to be an integral backbone of the election process, something it was not designed or intended to be.  Not to mention the Postmaster General being appointed by the President, you also have the Postal Union endorsing Biden which is their right, but presents a possible conflict of interest when all of the sudden these are the people handling our ballots in such large unprecedented numbers.   Like I said, this election will produce no comfortably untainted result for anyone regardless of who wins and that is the only one hundred percent certainty of this whole election.  Mark my words, there will be no winner.{#Sad}
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