So that means that all of this brouhaha and billions and billions of dollars spent on this "election" is tantamount to flushing it all down the toilet.
The importance of Trump's Proud Boy support isn't based on who they are or what they do, it's based on HIS belief in the moment that they are a White Supremacist organization, and refusal to take a position against them. He has no idea who the leader is, and he doesn't care....all he cares about is someone causing trouble for Democratic-run cities that he can use to scare people with his law and order propaganda.
The "know the facts" argument is standard Trump confirmation bias defense. There are ballots in a trashcan, therefore all mail-in ballots are fake. The Proud Boys aren't white supremacists, so Trump obviously supports the black and Hispanic communities. Confederated named bases are an honorable part of our history because soldiers trained there before WWII.
Trump is a racist because his base responds to his being one. Groups like the Proud Boys just enjoy the sport of civil unrest.
The Jets and the Sharks....with (Trump playing) Officer Krupke paying bounties to both gangs so he can be break up the fight and get re-elected Chief of police.
" Stand back and stand by" is clear encouragement to white supremacists. Trump is screwed, and he knows it. But his strategy of (trying to) blowing up the election is very troubling, to say the least. Will people die because this maniac is desperate?
You are aware the the leader of the Proud Boys is half-black, half-Cuban, right? And that a large number of their members are black & Hispanic ... ?
" Stand back and stand by" is clear encouragement to white supremacists. Trump is screwed, and he knows it. But his strategy of (trying to) blowing up the election is very troubling, to say the least. Will people die because this maniac is desperate?
People are already dying because of this maniac.
Yup and I love how he discounts the most vulnerable like seniors and those with pre existing conditions. He may as well say, oh well those people don't matter anyway. It's kinda like his strategy for California to vacuum or sweep up the forest floor. If you clear it out there won't be a problem. As I have said from the beginning, TRUMP'S FINAL SOLUTION.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that anyone regularly posting here claiming or pretending to be undecided is an out right liar.
I will go further. I will say that there is absolutely not one human in this entire country who is debating on whether to vote for Biden or Trump. So that means that all of this brouhaha and billions and billions of dollars spent on this "election" is tantamount to flushing it all down the toilet. All the anger and the energy is for naught. Campaigns and debates are for helping people decide who to vote for, there is no more deciding. All decisions have been long made.
I think both sides heard exactly what they wanted and expected to hear from The President. From the former VP they heard a lifelong politician being true to his experience. It was a mismatch made in hell...
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side note: my buffoonery seems to be a bit off, please help
I watched a five minute summary of the Biden-Trump debate. Wallace could barely keep Trump on track and restrained from interrupting Biden. You need a panel of 3-4 moderators to force Trump to debate and behave like a mature adult.
" Stand back and stand by" is clear encouragement to white supremacists. Trump is screwed, and he knows it. But his strategy of (trying to) blowing up the election is very troubling, to say the least. Will people die because this maniac is desperate?
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Sep 30, 2020 - 7:13am
" Stand back and stand by" is clear encouragement to white supremacists. Trump is screwed, and he knows it. But his strategy of (trying to) blowing up the election is very troubling, to say the least. Will people die because this maniac is desperate?
I think both sides heard exactly what they wanted and expected to hear from The President. From the former VP they heard a lifelong politician being true to his experience. It was a mismatch made in hell...
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Sep 30, 2020 - 4:42am
It was awful. It was miserable. And one wished desperately that there were commercials during the grotesque spectacle if only to give someone a chance to throw cold water on the president. But there were no breaks. It was an endless display, and it was frustrating to hear Wallace calling the president âsirâ as he pleaded with him to adhere to the rules to which he had agreed. Sir.Trump did not deserve that nicety because he did not come to the debate bearing the mantle of the presidency. He came with the demeanor of a thug.
Would that have happened because of Wallace? Would that have happened because of Biden?
We shouldn't act like it was a group effort. It was - surprise - chaos. Just like this administration has cultivated since the beginning.
I guess I'll be voting for the guy that didn't tell the Proud Boys to stand by.
WTF else did you guys expect? This is Trump. The 2016 debates with HRC were the same ugly mess. Interviewers and moderators can no longer have a sensible, reality-based conversation with Trump. He lives in his own fantasy world. Don't blame Wallace or Biden. Biden wasn't a problem during all the Democratic primary debates. If anything he struggled to get himself heard above the crowd during them.
Trump loves chaos because it lets him get away with lying. He will openly and brazenly lie on TV and not flinch. Jonathan Swan was praised for putting follow-up questions to Trump's answers in an August 2020 interview. If you don't press Trump to back his claims up or expand on them, he will litter the interview with throwaway lines based on lies.
From the CNN piece I linked to above:
Trump: "You know, there are those that say you can test too much, you do know that."Swan: "Who says that?"Trump: "Oh, just read the manuals. Read the books."Swan: "Manuals? What manuals?"Trump: "Read the books. Read the books."Swan: "What books?"
Trump moved on without offering a direct answer. While Swan couldn't get the President to concede that he is making up these "manuals" and "books," he exposed him nonetheless.
Swan had similar success when Trump returned to his laughably inaccurate claim that the virus is "under control," which he has now been making for more than six months.
Trump: "Right now, I think it's under control. I'll tell you what —"Swan: "How? 1,000 Americans are dying a day."Trump: "They are dying. That's true. And you have — it is what it is. But that doesn't mean we aren't doing everything we can. It's under control as much as you can control it."
I watched a five minute summary of the Biden-Trump debate. Wallace could barely keep Trump on track and restrained from interrupting Biden. You need a panel of 3-4 moderators to force Trump to debate and behave like a mature adult.