Much truth here, yes. Trump has not been your typical Republican I don't think, but something else. The election fight is now well beyond Trump and Republicans I feel. It's about the future of US elections overall now. Peace to you too, Jeff.
You haven't answered the question. Who are your enemies and what have they done to you that is so bad you want to risk the destruction of civic society, the constitution and the US as a country just to get rid of them.
And when you have done that, what on earth are you going to replace it with?
I'm not speaking for Kurt or anyone else here and only for myself, but the issue for me would be the idea of personal liberty. It's an idea worthy of protecting and defending. I think that people who are inclined to get out and make a go of something, despite the odds and obstacles and discomforts, are the sort of people who are inclined to want personal liberty and see it as sacrosanct. People who are a tad afraid of those discomforts and odds want a safer more regulated space and are prepared to sacrifice personal liberty in order to attain that.
If you are descended from people who left Europe and braved the unknown to settle and build a place for themselves in that great unknown, the notion of personal liberty is almost like oxygen.
If you see your government sliding your country into a safe space where nobody dies and nobody is uncomfortable but personal liberty is the price to pay....I completely understand the preparedness to start shooting. Everybody dies, life is mostly uncomfortable.
I'd prefer to retain the idea of liberty, and a voice (vote) that can keep that slide at bay.
Render my vote meaningless?...steal an election?....yeh, I completely understand.
You haven't answered the question. Who are your enemies and what have they done to you that is so bad you want to risk the destruction of civic society, the constitution and the US as a country just to get rid of them.
And when you have done that, what on earth are you going to replace it with?
This is the most frustrating part of the discussion. The Right holds up the Constitution like the bible, but then supports the leader who attacks it (while making speeches to the contrary).
Donald Trump doesn't care about the Constitution, military families, American workers, international trade, healthcare....he cares about money. How much can he get, and from whom can he get it? He has played his base like Mozart.
The only demographic Trump won over Biden is middle-aged, non-college-educated men. He played on their emotions and used their frustration and anger as a rallying cry against their lot in life. You're not happy...blame someone. The irony is amazing, because the rugged individualists that want to carry guns, wear masks, and gather however they see fit blame everyone else for their problems. Democrats, China, the deep state...so rugged that they have to blame someone else for everything and not take responsibility.
Kurts suggestion that there will be one party has some merit, but it won't be the elimination of Republicans or Democrats, it will be the continued weakening of the Republicans until they stop bowing to de Fuhrer and stand for something that includes morals, responsibility, and supports the Constitution. Today's middle-aged white guys aren't going to live forever. Republicans need to find the next generation of supporters.
Personally I think I am going to join the Confederacy this time around maybe we can finally kick some Yankee ass. Wait... I'm a Yankee (no matter) let's bring back the Stars and Bars and grow out our facial hair and throw in with Trump who is clearly being cheated out of a second term.
I knew that bastard Hugo Chávez was no good. When we're done overthrowing the East and Biden and his administration I am personally going to Chávez's tomb to un-interr him and put a couple of well deserved slugs in him. Just because he died doesn't mean he gets to avoid justice. Then I'm coming back to America to enjoy a nice cold beer because... well I think I will deserve one.
Personally I think I am going to join the Confederacy this time around maybe we can finally kick some Yankee ass. Wait... I'm a Yankee (no matter) let's bring back the Stars and Bars and grow out our facial hair and throw in with Trump who is clearly being cheated out of a second term.
I knew that bastard Hugo Chávez was no good. When we're done overthrowing the East and Biden and his administration I am personally going to Chávez's grave to un-interr him and put a couple of well deserved slugs in him. Just because he died doesn't mean he gets to avoid justice. Then I'm coming back to America to enjoy a nice cold beer because... well I think I will deserve one.
...Regardless of how things are, to be involved, one must pick a side in order to move their thoughts ahead or at least defend them. There are only two out of many sides that are even a contender for winning anything, right or wrong. The way things are headed, soon there is more than likely to be only one side that will win going forward. I have no crystal ball, but I will not ignore what I consider to be the obvious.
You haven't answered the question. Who are your enemies and what have they done to you that is so bad you want to risk the destruction of civic society, the constitution and the US as a country just to get rid of them.
And when you have done that, what on earth are you going to replace it with?
lordy be, WHO do you see as your enemies? Other law-abiding Americans who just happen to vote for a different party? Are you willing to trash the constitution, civil society, risk anarchy and solicit civil war just because the Democrats are in power for the moment? To even pay lip-service to the idea is unfathomable. Where is your loyalty to your country?
And the premise that there will never be another Republican president is hogwash. The history of democratic governments all over the globe is that sooner or later, people get tired of the ruling party and vote for change. Over and over again. The US is no different.
I did not fixate on whether or not there will ever be another republican POTUS. What I am paying attention to is who supports my values. Neither party is doing a great job on that. However, Trump as I have stated before is the only one even mentioning any of the values I find important. Whether he is sincere or not, he is still the only one. Personally, I see what Trump did was to hijack the republican party in order to get elected. In order to get elected, belonging to one party or another is a requirement. He picked the republican party which is the only place that there are even a few who agree with him or me. I cannot think of anyone in the democratic party that even begins to think like me short of Manchin from W Va.
The point I was paying attention to was what would be the outcome of a revolution should one begin and who would most likely win and why. You pay attention to what you do and I pay attention to what I do. What matters to me evidently does not matter to you. And that is OK. This is my country, not yours. Your allegiance should rightly be to your country, Germany and what is best for it as you see things there. I cannot fault you for what you may think is best for your country as it is not mine, regardless of what I may think. I assume that you have become a citizen since moving there from NZ, IIRC.
Regardless of how things are, to be involved, one must pick a side in order to move their thoughts ahead or at least defend them. There are only two out of many sides that are even a contender for winning anything here, right or wrong. The way things are headed, soon there is more than likely to be only one side that will win going forward. I have no crystal ball, but I will not ignore what I consider to be the obvious.
lordy be, WHO do you see as your enemies? Other law-abiding Americans who just happen to vote for a different party? Are you willing to trash the constitution, civil society, risk anarchy and solicit civil war just because the Democrats are in power for the moment? To even pay lip-service to the idea is unfathomable. Where is your loyalty to your country?
And the premise that there will never be another Republican president is hogwash. The history of democratic governments all over the globe is that sooner or later, people get tired of the ruling party and vote for change. Over and over again. The US is no different.
i think the terms republican or democrat (applied to politicians) are more for marketing/media purposes
when you look under the hood and kick the tires, they're essentially the same
this site isn't perfect but it gives us (the people who actually try and follow the money) a look into who gives and who gets
lordy be, WHO do you see as your enemies? Other law-abiding Americans who just happen to vote for a different party? Are you willing to trash the constitution, civil societ, risk anarchy and solicit civil war just because the Democrats are in power for the moment? To even pay lip-service to the idea is unfathomable. Where is your loyalty to your country?
And the premise that there will never be another Republican president is hogwash. The history of democratic governments all over the globe is that sooner or later, people get tired of the ruling party and vote for change. Over and over again. The US is no different.
The real issue is not whether there is a Republican or a Democrat as President, it is that it matters waaaay too much to a lot of us either way whether real or perceived. This is what we need to fix.
lordy be, WHO do you see as your enemies? Other law-abiding Americans who just happen to vote for a different party? Are you willing to trash the constitution, civil society, risk anarchy and solicit civil war just because the Democrats are in power for the moment? To even pay lip-service to the idea is unfathomable. Where is your loyalty to your country?
And the premise that there will never be another Republican president is hogwash. The history of democratic governments all over the globe is that sooner or later, people get tired of the ruling party and vote for change. Over and over again. The US is no different.
At the least, this guy should be jailed for incitement to violence. What utter drivel.
I rarely take all the time to watch one of these vids, but considering who recommended it, I did.
To think that our government and military does not run these scenarios is pretty foolish.
I see no incitement for violence. If anything it is a caution for those who are pushing this country in what I see as the wrong direction.
I tried to download it as I don't see it being available for viewing for any length of time and that function is blocked.
As of 2020, my family's first ancestor to have arrived on the shores of what would become this country did so 380 years ago. There are many here who have tried to make me feel ashamed of that fact and for even mentioning it. You know who you are, eh cap'n ? Yet it is what it is and has a lot to do with how I view this country and what I believe it should be.
Google Francis Marion. I consider him to be one of my personal heroes of whom I learned about in my childhood way back in the 50's. How ironic that his nickname is The Swamp Fox. Not ... when looking at the way things are in this country presently. You may find him reprehensible when looking at certain pieces of his life, but he was the right man at the right time for this soon to be country. It may not even exist if not for him. He learned how to function with what he had to work with and thought outside of the box. It was the lessons learned way back by Marion that told me that our efforts in Viet Nam were doomed from the beginning considering how we tried to prosecute that war.
Since you evidently did watch the video, think about The Swamp Fox and how it relates to some of the points made in the video. It has as much to do with tactics as it has to do with conviction and dedication towards an end. I'm not advocating a revolution or violence at any level. Just trying to illustrate the dangers and agree with the outcomes predicted in this video we are evidently discussing should push come to shove. I am old and very vulnerable should a revolution occur and would likely die one way or another as a result. But at least I will know why I died and that it is the price of being an American citizen who never takes anything for granted. Something about eternal vigilance comes to mind, but probably only because of the history of my family in this country since long before its (official) beginning.
In an âAntrim Michigan Forensics Reportâ dated Dec. 13, the personnel of Allied Security Operations Group â a team of defense, military, Secret Service and intelligence professionals, led in part by an academic from Harvard with expertise in business and technology â found this: the Dominion Voting System in place in Antrim County, Michigan, for the 2020 election hardly passed the smell test. It recorded a 68% error rate. Oops.
Big oops.
In fact, the system was found to be âintentionally and purposefully designed with inherent errors to create systemic fraud and influence election results.â
How so?
Hereâs how: âThe system intentionally generates an enormously high number of ballot errors. The electronic ballots are then transferred for adjudication. The intentional errors lead to bulk adjudication of ballots with no oversight, no transparency, and no audit trail. This leads to voter or election fraud,â the report stated.
The report authors say Antrim County votes should not have been certified.
The report authors said they âobserved an error rate of 68.05%â with ballot counts â a âsignificant and fatal error in security and election integrityâ that far surpasses the âallowable election error rateâ of 0.0008%, or one-in-250,000 ballots, thatâs been established by the Federal Election Commission.
Whatâs interesting, too, is that state and county officials didnât want to release information on Antrim Countyâs voting equipment for analystsâ review. A judge had to order its release.
From the Detroit Free Press: âJudge Kevin Elsenheimer of the 13th Circuit Court had ordered âforensic imagingâ of the Dominion Voting Systems voting tabulators and related software after Antrim County resident William Bailey filed a lawsuit that challenged the integrity of the election equipment, citing errors in how the county initially reported its unofficial results.â
Come on, now. Why the need to go to court to obtain access to data and information that should already be transparent and public?
After all, as the saying goes, if thereâs nothing to hide, why hide?
This latest forensicsâ report probably wonât help Trump maintain his White House seat for another four years. And itâs not even certain that it should; after all, this is one county, one small county. It canât be logically argued that the forensic findings of a 68% error rate in this one county automatically apply to all counties where the same voting software was used.
But it does raise red flags.
It does make the questions persist.
And once again, Americaâs back where America started with all this election challenge and curious late-election-night vote flipping: wondering if Americaâs election systems are honest.
Wondering if the next election will bring more of the same election questions and concerns about âerrors.â
Banana republic, hear thy roar.
I saw this
.....but of course, there's nothing to see here, nothing. Logs deleted, attempted data wipes, all those things of course will still amount to Zero evidence to those who don't want to see. And one county means nothing too, of course. Right.....there's a bridge I want to sell you. Like the hard-drive from hell, nothing strange about any of it. Yes, the Biden hardrive is making a return. This is possibly why Barr has bailed. He knew and said nothing. I still don't think it's over yet. And I still think Trump will win.
I found this interesting........a look at what Civil War 2.0 might look like.
Location: Perched on the precipice of the cauldron of truth
Posted:
Dec 14, 2020 - 9:19pm
It is time for the Republican Senators to unequivocally acknowledge and accept the outcome of the 2020 presidential election. Now. Stand and be counted. The Senate proclaims itself to be an august body. Now is the time to live up to that description. The judgment of history awaits.
Yep, you got what you wanted. You don't care if it was a fraudulent result.
Don't rock the boat. No need for any further investigations.
I'm all in favour of Biden putting together a panel of some sort to investigate all the ways that the vote may have been or was manipulated including delaying of mail ballots, closing voting stations, closing ballot drop boxes, etc. Oh, most of those were done to give advantage to Republicans? Funny that. I'm also in favour of publishing the source code used by voting machines.
