Whatever floats yer boat. You support islander's 2 unwarranted drive by personal attacks on me yet find fault with me when I push back and defend myself.
My current reaction to you is based upon your support of islander's blatant and long standing open hostility to me. I only told you how I will regard anything you initiate with me going forward based upon this event and your support for islander. Nothing more. You too must accept any responses to your positions, same as you insist that I do. This is my response to your support for islander.
You're no less partisan in your participation here than me. Quit pretending otherwise.
How you or anyone reacts to anything I post is on you / them. I'm not telling you how or what to do about anything. I just will not be bothering you directly as in the past.
Have a nice day.
Wrong again, buck0.
I don't know islander beyond knowing he's a member here. I can't recall ever having a direct conversation with him, although perhaps so in the 15+ years I've been here. I didn't read his posts to you, so whatever "long standing open hostility" you have between you is not my problem or concern. Your suggestion of collusion between us or support I supposedly have for him is either a random conclusion without much thought or a paranoid conspiracy theory, which would be about right.
I don't pretend that I'm not a partisan. I'm a proud lifelong progressive democrat who campaigned for McGovern at age 19 (my first voting election) and founded my college's Young Democrats Club that same year. Having said that, I voted for Reagan in 1984 because I believe I have an obligation to vote, and that year there was no way I could support Mondale-Ferraro & wasn't going to vote for Mickey Mouse. Your assertion that I "pretend otherwise" is a lie, which you well know. By the way, do you vote or do you just bitch about the results?
You bother me indirectly, so no relief there.
Have a day.
So I donât have any skin in the game of kurtster vs buddy or others but it is very enlightening to see the irony of the fact that kurtster doesnât take well to being the recipient of a perceived âpersonal attackâ while he cheers on Trump for doing the same thing to countless others. How do you reconcile the two? In my estimation kurtster should be praising buddy for willing to âget down in the mud with himâ instead of bitching about it.
if you canât stand the stink... get out of the sewer.
Jenna Ellis broke into the legal profession in 2012 as a deputy district attorney in Weld County, Colo., a largely rural area that would soon make headlines for a failed attempt to secede from the rest of the state because some residents resented the growing dominance of more liberal communities to the south like Denver. Ms. Ellis prosecuted crimes like theft and assault, felonies of a different magnitude from the claims of sweeping fraud and criminal conspiracy she makes today as a top lawyer to President Trump.
It wasnât long before she parlayed her law degree and experience as a prosecutor into jobs that thrust her beyond her corner of the state: She took a position with James Dobson, the evangelical heavyweight, joined the faculty at Colorado Christian University and started appearing on Denver radio as a legal commentator.
By late 2018, regular viewers of cable news would come to know Ms. Ellis as a âconstitutional law attorneyâ â her preferred title â who aggressively came to Mr. Trumpâs defense as he faced investigation and impeachment.
But a review of her professional history, as well as interviews with more than a half-dozen lawyers who have worked with her, show that Ms. Ellis, 36, is not the seasoned constitutional law expert she plays on TV.
In many ways, that makes her ideal for the role she has now fashioned for herself: She is a star player in the presidentâs theater of grievance and denial whose lack of relevant experience with the legal questions at hand has had no apparent bearing on her ability to present herself as someone of great authority. (...)
She holds herself out as an expert on the Constitution based on her self-published book and her teaching of pre-law classes to undergraduates. She has never appeared in federal district or circuit court, where most constitutional matters are considered, according to national databases of federal cases, and does not appear to have played a major role in any cases beyond her criminal and civil work in Colorado.
On paper, the Trump campaign calls her a senior legal adviser. She has recently appeared alongside Rudolph W. Giuliani and other Trump lawyers â a group Ms. Ellis described as an âelite strike force teamâ â at public hearings where she amplified the presidentâs false claims of widespread voter fraud.
Ms. Ellisâs work appears to largely be in a public relations capacity. The Trump campaign and its supporters have so far filed about 50 election-related lawsuits. She has not signed her name or appeared in court to argue a single one.
In a written statement responding to questions about her record, Ms. Ellis described herself as âa highly experienced and highly qualified attorney and expert in my field.â Any assertions to the contrary âcast me in a false light,â she said. The Trump campaign provided the name of one federal case in which it said Ms. Ellis had participated, in 2012, when she was a year out of law school. But her name is not among the lawyers listed in the decision, and the case was not heard in a regular federal court, but rather in an administrative tribunal. (...)
Uh, I backscrolled half a page and didn't see the source here, but I'm guessing your still sour about our exchange the other day. I'm sure you'd love it if no one ever called you on your BS, but as long as you post it I'm sure that myself or someone else will chime in to say "whoa dude, really?". I'm likely more harsh than others because I don't really care about your feelings. You've demonstrated to myself and many others here that you're just not worth the extra consideration. Sorry if that bugs you, I'm sure you don't like me either so.... well I guess we won't be going to get Tiramisu after the movie. The world will spin on.
I don't know islander beyond knowing he's a member here. I can't recall ever having a direct conversation with him, although perhaps so in the 15+ years I've been here. I didn't read his posts to you, so whatever "long standing open hostility" you have between you is not my problem or concern. Your suggestion of collusion between us or support I supposedly have for him is either a random conclusion without much thought or a paranoid conspiracy theory, which would be about right.
I don't pretend that I'm not a partisan. I'm a proud lifelong progressive democrat who campaigned for McGovern at age 19 (my first voting election) and founded my college's Young Democrats Club that same year. Having said that, I voted for Reagan in 1984 because I believe I have an obligation to vote, and that year there was no way I could support Mondale-Ferraro & wasn't going to vote for Mickey Mouse. Your assertion that I "pretend otherwise" is a lie, which you well know. By the way, do you vote or do you just bitch about the results?
You bother me indirectly, so no relief there.
Have a day.
Just to address some of the above.
Never suggested any collusion with anyone. Just that you supported islander's 2 personal attacks on me. You cited my reply to him in your remarks to me so it is fair on my part to conclude that you read the exchanges that led up to that point. That you apparently did not and still made you remarks is what it is. Maybe you should have back scrolled first. But since you won't and still hold to your remarks, I'll hold to mine.
Yes, have not missed a presidential election since I cast my first vote for, wait for it ... McGovern at age 19. Yes, I also feel an obligation to vote as well, regardless of circumstances.
Since I bother you indirectly perhaps you can go back and revitalize that old FB campaign that was organized about 10 years ago to get me removed from RP.
I haven't forgotten that. Beaker was also a target of that campaign.
Lin Wood, an Atlanta-based lawyer who says President Donald Trump asked him to join the effort to challenge Joe Bidenâs election victory, is promoting a right-wing groupâs call for Trump to declare martial law and use the military to oversee a new election. Retired Gen. Michael Flynn also promoted the call for martial law just a day after the Justice Department released the language of the extremely broad pardon Flynn received from Trump
We the People Convention, an Ohio group with Tea Party roots, made the call for martial law in a full-page ad in the right-wing Washington Times and a press release distributed Tuesday. As of Tuesday afternoon, the press release had been shared more than 70,000 times online. Wood tweeted a link to the press release, adding his own message: (...)
Nothing more âpatrioticâ than a call for martial law to overturn the results of a presidential election. Clearly these are people who love our country and revere our Constitution.
Can't make a Trump Omelette⢠without breaking some eggs...
This is a coup. Who doesn't see that? I can't believe these so-called patriots. Absolutely batshit!
Lin Wood, an Atlanta-based lawyer who says President Donald Trump asked him to join the effort to challenge Joe Bidenâs election victory, is promoting a right-wing groupâs call for Trump to declare martial law and use the military to oversee a new election. Retired Gen. Michael Flynn also promoted the call for martial law just a day after the Justice Department released the language of the extremely broad pardon Flynn received from Trump
We the People Convention, an Ohio group with Tea Party roots, made the call for martial law in a full-page ad in the right-wing Washington Times and a press release distributed Tuesday. As of Tuesday afternoon, the press release had been shared more than 70,000 times online. Wood tweeted a link to the press release, adding his own message: (...)
Nothing more âpatrioticâ than a call for martial law to overturn the results of a presidential election. Clearly these are people who love our country and revere our Constitution.
Can't make a Trump Omelette⢠without breaking some eggs...
This is a coup. Who doesn't see that? I can't believe these so-called patriots. Absolutely batshit!
Lin Wood, an Atlanta-based lawyer who says President Donald Trump asked him to join the effort to challenge Joe Bidenâs election victory, is promoting a right-wing groupâs call for Trump to declare martial law and use the military to oversee a new election. Retired Gen. Michael Flynn also promoted the call for martial law just a day after the Justice Department released the language of the extremely broad pardon Flynn received from Trump
We the People Convention, an Ohio group with Tea Party roots, made the call for martial law in a full-page ad in the right-wing Washington Times and a press release distributed Tuesday. As of Tuesday afternoon, the press release had been shared more than 70,000 times online. Wood tweeted a link to the press release, adding his own message: (...)
Nothing more âpatrioticâ than a call for martial law to overturn the results of a presidential election. Clearly these are people who love our country and revere our Constitution.
Can't make a Trump Omelette⢠without breaking some eggs...
Lin Wood, an Atlanta-based lawyer who says President Donald Trump asked him to join the effort to challenge Joe Bidenâs election victory, is promoting a right-wing groupâs call for Trump to declare martial law and use the military to oversee a new election. Retired Gen. Michael Flynn also promoted the call for martial law just a day after the Justice Department released the language of the extremely broad pardon Flynn received from Trump
We the People Convention, an Ohio group with Tea Party roots, made the call for martial law in a full-page ad in the right-wing Washington Times and a press release distributed Tuesday. As of Tuesday afternoon, the press release had been shared more than 70,000 times online. Wood tweeted a link to the press release, adding his own message: (...)
Nothing more âpatrioticâ than a call for martial law to overturn the results of a presidential election. Clearly these are people who love our country and revere our Constitution.
Lin Wood, an Atlanta-based lawyer who says President Donald Trump asked him to join the effort to challenge Joe Bidenâs election victory, is promoting a right-wing groupâs call for Trump to declare martial law and use the military to oversee a new election. Retired Gen. Michael Flynn also promoted the call for martial law just a day after the Justice Department released the language of the extremely broad pardon Flynn received from Trump
We the People Convention, an Ohio group with Tea Party roots, made the call for martial law in a full-page ad in the right-wing Washington Times and a press release distributed Tuesday. As of Tuesday afternoon, the press release had been shared more than 70,000 times online. Wood tweeted a link to the press release, adding his own message:
Many Kansans remember Kline as a polarizing political figure, whether serving as a Republican state representative, state attorney general or Johnson County district attorney.
In the end, the Kansas Supreme Court determined there was âclear and convincing evidenceâ to require indefinite suspension of Klineâs law license in 2013.
Here is what the state Supreme Court said: âUltimately, we unanimously conclude the weight of the aggravating factors â i.e., Klineâs inability or refusal to acknowledge the line between overzealous advocacy and operating within the bounds of the law and his professional obligations; his selfish motives; and his lengthy and substantial pattern of misconduct â weigh more heavily than the mitigating factors and merit his indefinite suspension.â
Klineâs attempts in federal court to reverse the state decision failed, including a request for the U.S. Supreme Court to consider his case.
In his day job, Kline was rendered an academic oddity â a University of Kansas law school graduate stripped of legal certification yet employed as an associate professor of law at Liberty University, the evangelical college in Lynchburg, Va.
The Amistad Project of The Thomas More Society gave a press briefing yesterday. It was quite interesting, including something about completed ballots being shipped in bulk across state lines.....the audio is skippy and jerky until about 15:30. Here is a press summary. Here are two of the blokes on Fox
This might also be of interest - The Voter Integrity project findings. You can probably skip to 7:00 and start there. Timestamps in the description. Pretty dry but there is some data.
Mathematical/statistical analysis of suspicious voter birthdays in PA and the effect on PA election results. https://www.revolver.news/2020...
Statistical analysis of highly anomalous update to mail vote totals Montgomery County PA. There is a part 1 and Part 2. https://www.revolver.news/2020...
The full almost 11 hours of testimony in the Arizona hearing - what was super interesting to me was the mathematician-type who showed how replicating the graphs representing the Biden vote vs the Trump vote requires weighting every Democrat vote plus 1.3 for Biden and minus 0.3 for Trump - perfect match of the graphs. Very interesting. 26 Pa House Republicans call for withdrawal of certification of presidential electors https://www.pennlive.com/elect... I think this is why the public hearings because mainstream media not covering the story. Perhaps Arizona, Michigan legislatures to follow as a result of public hearings there?
There is much much more but you might have to go to uncomfortable places to see it. Don't expect it to be on CNN.
Location: Perched on the precipice of the cauldron of truth
Posted:
Dec 1, 2020 - 8:49pm
Steely_D wrote:
steeler wrote:
Trump and his supporters are arguing that the 80 million votes for Biden indicates fraud because they say there is no way that many people were able to vote for Biden.
Of course, Trump and his supporters see nothing suspect about Trump getting 74 million votes, 11 million more than in 2016. The exponential increase in voters only stands as proof of fraud orchestrated by Democrats on behalf of Biden!
Location: Perched on the precipice of the cauldron of truth
Posted:
Dec 1, 2020 - 8:37pm
haresfur wrote:
steeler wrote:
What Trump and his supporters apparently cannot figure out nor accept is that the huge voter turnout was not in many cases to vote for Biden but to vote against Trump.
Or perhaps it is that there were two people running who had any chance of winning and voters picked the better one.
Flip side of same coin.
I should have provided some context for my post: Trump and his supporters are arguing that the 80 million votes for Biden indicates fraud because they say there is no way that many people voted for Biden.
What Trump and his supporters apparently cannot figure out nor accept is that the huge voter turnout was not in many cases to vote for Biden but to vote against Trump.
Or perhaps it is that there were two people running who had any chance of winning and voters picked the better one.
What Trump and his supporters apparently cannot figure out nor accept is that the huge voter turnout was not in many cases to vote for Biden but to vote against Trump.
Given Trump's polarizing behavior, I think that even Obama (running hypothetically against Trump) would have seen his numbers for "voters enthusiastic for Obama" decline because some of his supporters would have been more in the "voters enthusiastic *against* Trump" camp.
What Trump and his supporters apparently cannot figure out nor accept is that the huge voter turnout was not in many cases to vote for Biden but to vote against Trump.
Indeed. Biden was not my choice, but the alternative was unthinkable.
What Trump and his supporters apparently cannot figure out nor accept is that the huge voter turnout was not in many cases to vote for Biden but to vote against Trump.
