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Posted: Apr 27, 2021 - 10:22am


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Posted: Apr 27, 2021 - 10:10am

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I'm not sure what the whistle is about, but if he's blaming the press he's not getting it either. People are terrible at assessing risk. Absolutely horrible at it. So 1 in 8 million die from a vaccine, that's something to freak out about. 1 in 50 die from the disease it prevents, that's a good time for skepticism. If the doctor just lays out facts without context, you can assume the doctor might not see the problem (that simply reporting deaths in any context will skew how people view the vaccine), know that the reporter probably doesn't, and the news consumer is left to their own devices. Which, see point above about asking people to decode numbers well enough to evaluate risks.



are you saying people are risk averse...which they are. 
Given the choice of receiving $25 or the opportunity to win $100 by flipping a coin, most take the $25, even though the expected value of the latter is higher ($50). 

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Posted: Apr 27, 2021 - 9:57am

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{#Whistle}
 


I'm not sure what the whistle is about, but if he's blaming the press he's not getting it either. People are terrible at assessing risk. Absolutely horrible at it. So 1 in 8 million die from a vaccine, that's something to freak out about. 1 in 50 die from the disease it prevents, that's a good time for skepticism. If the doctor just lays out facts without context, you can assume the doctor might not see the problem (that simply reporting deaths in any context will skew how people view the vaccine), know that the reporter probably doesn't, and the news consumer is left to their own devices. Which, see point above about asking people to decode numbers well enough to evaluate risks.


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Posted: Apr 27, 2021 - 9:31am

Pausing the J&J vaccine was the right move...to understand how to respond/prepare for the very unlikely chance of an issue.
Most stories i read, even those by CNN, were clear that the risks were low, and were not propagating anti-vaxx theories.
I dont follow many people on twitter...perhaps too many do, and perhaps we should ignore these people, instead of recyling this bad information. 
I blame 24 hour news...there isn't enough news to report 24 hours, so they make up their own. e.g., democrats want illegals for more votes...Trump was the antichrist.

It's all about ratings. Be careful of news feeds you hit so as to not feed the trolls. 
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Posted: Apr 27, 2021 - 9:19am

 
 
{#Whistle}
 
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Posted: Apr 27, 2021 - 8:46am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


If you're subjected to right-wing musings, you'll learn that there was no flu or colds this year because all of those things were reported as covid instead.




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Posted: Apr 27, 2021 - 8:33am

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I think of myself as fairly healthy. I get a cold about once a year normally, and I typically see 3-5 people in my sphere that get the flu (almost always self managed, no hospitalization unless they are elderly).  This year nothing. It's refreshing. The  stress and anxiety from the politics is no picnic, but no one is getting sick. The Asian cultures had the mask thing right the last several years.


If you're subjected to right-wing musings, you'll learn that there was no flu or colds this year because all of those things were reported as covid instead.
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Posted: Apr 27, 2021 - 5:55am

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Seriously considering wearing a mask to the grocery store during the winter because fuck the common cold


I think of myself as fairly healthy. I get a cold about once a year normally, and I typically see 3-5 people in my sphere that get the flu (almost always self managed, no hospitalization unless they are elderly).  This year nothing. It's refreshing. The  stress and anxiety from the politics is no picnic, but no one is getting sick. The Asian cultures had the mask thing right the last several years.
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Posted: Apr 26, 2021 - 11:32pm

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The vaccines are looking like they're about 90% effective at preventing infection (early tests were only measuring how good they were at keeping us from getting hospitalized)... so now we're talking about really low odds of me getting and retransmitting it, and if I do, the people I give it to are vaccinated and not likely to get seriously ill. NOW we're really talking about a common cold. Reasonable cold-and-flu precautions and the ol' common courtesy thing should be enough to protect the people around me.


Seriously considering wearing a mask to the grocery store during the winter because fuck the common cold
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Posted: Apr 26, 2021 - 10:04pm

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My understanding is that even though we are vaccinated we can still get and transmit the virus. We can do so and be totally asymptomatic so I wear a mask to protect others and in turn I protect myself.
{#Meditate}


The vaccines are looking like they're about 90% effective at preventing infection (early tests were only measuring how good they were at keeping us from getting hospitalized)... so now we're talking about really low odds of me getting and retransmitting it, and if I do, the people I give it to are vaccinated and not likely to get seriously ill. NOW we're really talking about a common cold. Reasonable cold-and-flu precautions and the ol' common courtesy thing should be enough to protect the people around me.
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Posted: Apr 26, 2021 - 7:59pm

 Coaxial wrote:
My understanding is that even though we are vaccinated we can still get and transmit the virus. We can do so and be totally asymptomatic so I wear a mask to protect others and in turn I protect myself.
{#Meditate}




I keep my hanging from my rear view mirror. It gets sanitized in the sunlight all day and I never forget to bring it with me wherever I go. Which is nowhere 99% of the time. 
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Posted: Apr 26, 2021 - 6:27pm

My understanding is that even though we are vaccinated we can still get and transmit the virus. We can do so and be totally asymptomatic so I wear a mask to protect others and in turn I protect myself.{#Meditate}
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Posted: Apr 26, 2021 - 4:25pm

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Can someone tell me again why I still need to wear a mask, if I'm fully vaccinated ... with the Moderna ...


No (I cannot). I wear a mask when it's courteous, because I'm not the sort of asshole who will give a store clerk shit over something as harmless as that. If it's their job to hand out masks, I take one with a smile and go about my business because it's a burden on a par with No Shirt No Shoes... (which as you might surmise is rarely a burden to me). But until they establish that variants are overtaking vaccinated people or the vaccines have worn off, etc. and since I have actual antibodies from having had the 'rona AND have the pfizer, I feel perfectly okay with business as usual. 

There's a minor school of thought that keeping up the masking will help encourage unvaccinated people to do the same but since 100% of the people in my orbit have been fully vaccinated for a month or more, everyone else (double-anti: anti-mask, anti-vaxxers) can fuck right off. Of course they'll be the route for variants to enter our population, the only question is will those variants kill enough of them to prevent it running amok through the community. Fingers crossed!

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Posted: Apr 26, 2021 - 2:26pm

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Been fully vaccinated for 6 weeks now.  The masks are getting very old and with the weather getting warmer, breathing with them on is a little more difficult.

Masks forever is not going to work for me.  Masks for very much longer, period is not going to work for me either.  I'm pretty much fed up with it now.  I have been 100% compliant and worn them at work and while shopping and at doctor's offices, etc.   I have not and will not wear one in my car when I am alone or with family members.  Those who wear them in cars when they are alone are simply knucking futz and should stay home if they are that paranoid or that scared to death.

Can someone tell me again why I still need to wear a mask, if I'm fully vaccinated ... with the Moderna ...

Signed,

P O'ed in Cleveland

(ohio, not tennessee)


Dear P O'ed in Cleveland,

Outside?  Do not bother with a mask.  

Inside a public building?   Might be a good idea to still wear a mask because we still do not have a firm handle on the ability of the vaccines to protect against evolving strains of the SAR C0V-2 virus.   By autumn of this year, we will know much more about the efficacy of the current vaccines.  

Signed, sharing your frustration in Wildfire Country, British Columbia


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Posted: Apr 26, 2021 - 2:21pm

Been fully vaccinated for 6 weeks now.  The masks are getting very old and with the weather getting warmer, breathing with them on is a little more difficult.

Masks forever is not going to work for me.  Masks for very much longer, period is not going to work for me either.  I'm pretty much fed up with it now.  I have been 100% compliant and worn them at work and while shopping and at doctor's offices, etc.   I have not and will not wear one in my car when I am alone or with family members.  Those who wear them in cars when they are alone are simply knucking futz and should stay home if they are that paranoid or that scared to death.

Can someone tell me again why I still need to wear a mask, if I'm fully vaccinated ... with the Moderna ...

Signed,

P O'ed in Cleveland

(ohio, not tennessee)
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Posted: Apr 26, 2021 - 1:19pm

Terrific article black321.   Thanks!  

Or maybe I should be careful because the authors are confirming all my pre-existing biases.  
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Posted: Apr 26, 2021 - 12:21pm


Staying 6 feet apart indoors does almost nothing to stop the spread of COVID-19, MIT study finds


For example, if an infected person walks into a classroom hosting 25 people, none wearing masks and all speaking, everyone would be at risk from the coronavirus within 36 minutes, the website says. It doesn't matter if they follow the 6-foot rule.

By contrast, if all 25 people in that room were wearing a mask, the air would be safe to breathe for 20 hours, it said.

If they were all singing without a mask, they be at risk from the virus within three minutes.

Public-health bodies have started to acknowledge that the 6-foot rule is not a catchall. In March, the CDC advised that the 6-foot rule could be brought down to 3 feet in K-12 schools.

This weekend, the CDC also updated social-distancing guidance for children in summer camps, saying they can be within 3 feet of one another except when eating or drinking.

It also suggested that disinfection of surfaces might not be necessary in public spaces, urging an end to what some have called "hygiene theater."

As for rules dictating social distancing outdoors, Bazant said they are "kind of crazy," CNBC reported. The infected air "would be swept away," Bazant said, making the rule irrelevant.

Unless the space outdoors is crowded, Bazant said, he would feel comfortable being as close as 3 feet even without masks.


https://www.businessinsider.co...
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Posted: Apr 25, 2021 - 11:40am

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My boy’s been working on the interface of rural tele health and public policy for the last year or two, and just got hired by a Big Company that does that stuff. One of his recent papers (lead author!) is being presented to Congress in the near future. 

One silver lining of the pandemic has been that it’s pushed virtual care out of the fringes into mainstream. If things go properly, then widespread rural broadband will bring health care to the areas that are far from clinics/hospitals and allow for much easier check in with people that otherwise couldn’t travel for a standard clinic visit.

This is a very very good side effect, and changes the game for public health - as long as people have vision.

Sounds great S_D.   I agree 100% on the potential of widespread rural broadband.  But unfortunately, the challenge does not stop there as many older folks have a made policy of staying away or minimizing the use of digital technologies and basically need to be hand held from A to Z.

Healthy rural living left the barn decades ago.   How will this information technology persuade folks in rural areas that 'sitting', i.e., no exercise, and large volumes of bad food and alcohol are all a big disaster for health outcomes?   How many rural folks are aware that the epidemiology of alcohol just keeps on getting worse with the passage of time?   Zero where I live.  

It is rather clear to me that the new Biden administration will continue in the cheap energy entitlement and unhealthy life style traditions.  Why make painful, substantive policy changes when you can fill the air with meaningless targets and painless subsidies?  

People who sit all the time in Electric Vehicles will be just as unhealthy as those who sit all the time in gasoline or diesel-powered vehicles.  

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Posted: Apr 25, 2021 - 10:02am

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Makes me wonder what you think about prophylactic use of vitamins C and D, zinc, and baby aspirin.
 
Been part of my daily regime for years.  Long before CV 19.  Colds have been few, if any that I can recall since I started it back in the 90's.  I added D to the others about 10 years ago post stem cell transplant.  Friday was the 12th anniversary of my transplant and I'm still here.
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Posted: Apr 25, 2021 - 8:45am

 westslope wrote:

Will this pandemic be a wake up call for public health?


My boy’s been working on the interface of rural tele health and public policy for the last year or two, and just got hired by a Big Company that does that stuff. One of his recent papers (lead author!) is being presented to Congress in the near future. 

One silver lining of the pandemic has been that it’s pushed virtual care out of the fringes into mainstream. If things go properly, then widespread rural broadband will bring health care to the areas that are far from clinics/hospitals and allow for much easier check in with people that otherwise couldn’t travel for a standard clinic visit.

This is a very very good side effect, and changes the game for public health - as long as people have vision.
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