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Posted: Jan 1, 2021 - 9:54am


mixed feelings 

miami dade is the state's hotspot

new year's eve (if accurate)

yeah it's outdoors and breezy

most walking appear masked

seated? pie holes in action?

i'd say not
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Posted: Jan 1, 2021 - 7:45am



people just don't have the time to watch everything (so we pick and choose)

i set this to start around the 9:45 mark 

interesting to see top docs give their take

in this case south korea's professor woo-joo kim

0:00 - Intro
2:39 - Latest COVID stats
4:20 - Impact of virus mutation on infection rate
6:57 - Effectiveness of vaccines against mutated virus
9:57 - The 4 factors to contain COVID cases
19:37 - Importance of wearing masks
24:28 - Can asymptomatic people infect others?
31:27 - Timing of herd immunity for Korea and the US
33:58 - Equitable distribution of vaccines 
35:26 - Message to the public
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Posted: Dec 31, 2020 - 4:25pm



 R_P wrote:
 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
I'm looking for a particular video by a woman who's an epidemiologist or virologist something like that and she explains the meaning and function of the ingredients in the vaccines. It was pretty good, not hard to follow, and I need to share it with someone. Anyone know what I'm talking about?
 
Don't know which one you saw, but this one does something similar...


 

Edit: NOT epidemiologist or virologist, she's a geneticist. This is what I was after. 
R_P

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Posted: Dec 31, 2020 - 3:00pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
I'm looking for a particular video by a woman who's an epidemiologist or virologist something like that and she explains the meaning and function of the ingredients in the vaccines. It was pretty good, not hard to follow, and I need to share it with someone. Anyone know what I'm talking about?
 
Don't know which one you saw, but this one does something similar...


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Posted: Dec 31, 2020 - 2:48pm

I'm looking for a particular video by a woman who's an epidemiologist or virologist something like that and she explains the meaning and function of the ingredients in the vaccines. It was pretty good, not hard to follow, and I need to share it with someone. Anyone know what I'm talking about?
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Posted: Dec 31, 2020 - 2:22pm

More than 500 vaccine doses were left out to spoil on purpose by a hospital employee
KarmaKarma

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Posted: Dec 31, 2020 - 2:03pm



 Steely_D wrote:


 VV wrote:




With that, I think this conversation is pretty much over...
 

You know, we really need to ignore him and KK.
 

Cry more.  Both of you.


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Posted: Dec 31, 2020 - 1:34pm

We Came All This Way to Let Vaccines Go Bad in the Freezer?
America did not sufficiently plan for how to get millions of people vaccinated.
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Posted: Dec 31, 2020 - 9:51am

 rgio wrote:
Drink up, and tell those who suggest this "might become endemic" to stop talking and look up some facts. 
 
From your pixels to God's iPhone.
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Posted: Dec 31, 2020 - 6:47am



 rhahl wrote:
Here is a sobering thought. If flu typically kills 50,000 per year in the U.S. even with vaccines, and if Covid-19 is 4 to 10 times more deadly than flu, then we might expect 200,000 to 500,000 deaths per year even with these new vaccines. People talk about how this disease might become endemic but I haven't seen anyone spell out what it really means: Social distancing forever. Get used to it.
 
Very scary indeed...if your assertions had any basis in science.

Flu vaccines and COVID vaccines are very different.  The flu vaccine is an estimate of the types of flu that may be in circulation in the coming months.  They are usually between 40% and 60% accurate.  Here's the accuracy of the strains in the vaccine vs. those in circulation for the past 11 years.
Adj. Overall VE (%)5660474952194840382939
COVID is more like small-pox or the bubonic plague than the flu.

Drink up, and tell those who suggest this "might become endemic" to stop talking and look up some facts.

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Posted: Dec 31, 2020 - 6:03am

 rhahl wrote:
 black321 wrote:
Going through Rite Aid's earnings call this week, comment from their CEO:

"And we anticipate there's going to be a COVID vaccine forever probably because if not this mutation, possibly more mutations. So we look at this as both a short-term opportunity to help the country but a longer-term opportunity for Rite Aid."
Here is a sobering thought. If flu typically kills 50,000 per year in the U.S. even with vaccines, and if Covid-19 is 4 to 10 times more deadly than flu, then we might expect 200,000 to 500,000 deaths per year even with these new vaccines.  People talk about how this disease might become endemic but I haven't seen anyone spell out what it really means: Social distancing forever. Get used to it.
 
Latest CDC vaccine distribution and administration numbers are out.

Doses Distributed: 12,409,050
Doses Administered: 2,589,125
20.9% of the doses distributed have been administered.

Track vaccine allocations and administrations here: https://twitter.com/bhrenton/status/1344387396515885059

The typical rate of flu vaccine distribution is 1.5 million shots per day, over about 4 months. Oy.
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Posted: Dec 31, 2020 - 4:44am

The Wealth of the World’s Billionaires Grew by a Staggering $1.9 Trillion in 2020

Elon Musk alone increased his fortune by $110 billion

VV

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Posted: Dec 31, 2020 - 4:37am



 Steely_D wrote:


 VV wrote:




With that, I think this conversation is pretty much over...
 

You know, we really need to ignore him and KK.
 

Yup, learned my lesson.
Steely_D

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Posted: Dec 30, 2020 - 11:08pm



 VV wrote:




With that, I think this conversation is pretty much over...
 

You know, we really need to ignore him and KK.
VV

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Posted: Dec 30, 2020 - 10:39pm



 Ohmsen wrote:


 VV wrote:

 Ohmsen wrote:
Some troublesome semantics involved here. No? ~ While the whole world is busy adjusting their politics "accommodating corona", the article you quote is nothing but double-speak. It is ok for the neo-liberal and left to politicize it, but not the way the political right  does? 

Spare me your politics...

 
I saw no troublesome semantics but a pretty forthright answer. What about his answer was confusing to you? As far as I could see the left was doing it's best to not politicize it. This is just projection on you part. If my side did it then yours did too type of response. 
 
Explain how you saw that differently with a president who (during a period of time within the pandemic) was seeminging only interested in trying to highlight the higher death rates in Democrat run cities vs Republican run cities and base his success of COVID containment on Republican run cities alone. Deaths are deaths and suffering is suffering in my book. Trump is supposed to be a president for all the people but we know full well he isn't and never was.

 

Politicizing in your view perhaps doesn't congruently match to politicizing in general. I consider all politics regarding corona as politicized as "per se". 
Lockdowns, travel restrictions, mask mandates, etc. are political measures taken and utilized by the majority of governments, worldwide. A special kind of politicization seems to come in when political factions use stronger or less restrictive measures applied, according to their very own political agenda and start fighting over the measures.
In the US, bipartizanship is the current norm, and therefore, the views on politicization of corona differ on only one front, which seems to suffice for the rest of the world as well, in the form of stronger, or tighter restrictions. Are our personal freedoms infringed upon (on the one hand) vs. are we as a society protecting the people best, and sometimes hardest (on the other). 
Honestly, I am sick of it all... (I think we all are, by now). The virus is there. It keeps mutating. People die from it.
A pandemic? I dare to say, I question it.
Where are the flu-deaths? Gone from statistics? In my country, 90% on average are dead from nursing homes. Hospitals are eceonomic entities, and they have to keep their ERs occupied. 80-90% occupancy is the norm. Below, hospitals wouldn't be economically funct. Alarmist news on capacities overblown by Covid usually miss the reality, or can easily be matched with headlines from foregone flu-winters (just research the news).
During the flu season of winter 2018/19, in my country about 25k people died from the flu, and hospitals were overcrowded, just as today. Healthworkers underpayed and at their limits, as has been usual for decades. 
The number of 25k deaths was just reached, a week ago, for the whole of 2020, as designated Covid deaths, PCR false positives and all (in my country). 
On the other hand, I think, we as humans do have to change our behavior in regards to nature. Exploitation and pollution need to stop, urgently.
But that is not, what our governments want, or seem to cater. Instead, they seem to cater the big industries, like never before... vaccines on the forefront, next to big banking, big weapons, big tech and anything else that deserves to be named as 'big'.
Was it Eisenhower, who warned about this Military-Industrial Complex, decades ago, followed by JFK, and then Donal Trump? I can't remember... sorry. 
Just my 2 "distressed cents".
 

Mask mandates, lockdowns, social distancing, washing hands in my book are not political in the least when put forth by the CDC or other authority if those are the measures necessary to try and contain the pandemic. Sadly Trump not supporting these measures and even chiding others who did eventually morphed into a political statement and hence politicized it.
 
Also I’m sorry I didn’t realize I was conversing with a pandemic skeptic? So there are over 330k now dead in America because of a... what?... extra strong flu? I’m guessing that you might also be a flat-earther and/or Holocaust denier.

With that, I think this conversation is pretty much over...
KarmaKarma

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Posted: Dec 30, 2020 - 5:47pm

Finally got my COVID test results today.  Good news ... I'm all clear.  But they screwed up and forgot to test me for Ebola.  


VV

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Posted: Dec 30, 2020 - 4:42pm



 Ohmsen wrote:


 R_P wrote:
Yes, we should ‘politicize’ the pandemic
Politicization doesn’t have to mean partisanship, where the only goal is scoring points for your team. It can mean simply drawing that link between the individual and the collective. Letlow’s death was just as political as every covid-19 death. Your child’s education is political, because it’s affected not only by her teachers but by political decisions made in your town, your county, your state and in D.C. Politics affects all our lives in countless ways, and it’s absurd to pretend it doesn’t.

But you can politicize issues in terrible ways too, which is just what Trump did with mask-wearing. He made masks an emblem of partisan identity, so the best way to tell liberals to go to hell was to not wear one. Cruz and others helped by characterizing public health measures as a sinister Democratic plot to take away your freedom.

That’s not the only reason the death toll in the United States has been so horrific, but it made a significant contribution. Yet the idea that no one bears responsibility for the misery and destruction the pandemic has wrought on America is essential to the Republican project. They’d like us to believe that its arrival was unforeseeable and its effects inevitable, and that no other president could have done a better job dealing with it than the one they’ve spent the last four years cheering and apologizing for, and to say otherwise is to “politicize” the disease.

 

Some troublesome semantics involved here. No? ~ While the whole world is busy adjusting their politics "accommodating corona", the article you quote is nothing but double-speak. It is ok for the neo-liberal and left to politicize it, but not the way the political right  does? 

Spare me your politics...

 
I saw no troublesome semantics but a pretty forthright answer. What about his answer was confusing to you? As far as I could see the left was doing it's best to not politicize it. This is just projection on you part. If my side did it then yours did too type of response. 
 
Explain how you saw that differently with a president who (during a period of time within the pandemic) was seeminging only interested in trying to highlight the higher death rates in Democrat run cities vs Republican run cities and base his success of COVID containment on Republican run cities alone. Deaths are deaths and suffering is suffering in my book. Trump is supposed to be a president for all the people but we know full well he isn't and never was.

R_P

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Posted: Dec 30, 2020 - 3:42pm

Yes, we should ‘politicize’ the pandemic
Politicization doesn’t have to mean partisanship, where the only goal is scoring points for your team. It can mean simply drawing that link between the individual and the collective. Letlow’s death was just as political as every covid-19 death. Your child’s education is political, because it’s affected not only by her teachers but by political decisions made in your town, your county, your state and in D.C. Politics affects all our lives in countless ways, and it’s absurd to pretend it doesn’t.

But you can politicize issues in terrible ways too, which is just what Trump did with mask-wearing. He made masks an emblem of partisan identity, so the best way to tell liberals to go to hell was to not wear one. Cruz and others helped by characterizing public health measures as a sinister Democratic plot to take away your freedom.

That’s not the only reason the death toll in the United States has been so horrific, but it made a significant contribution. Yet the idea that no one bears responsibility for the misery and destruction the pandemic has wrought on America is essential to the Republican project. They’d like us to believe that its arrival was unforeseeable and its effects inevitable, and that no other president could have done a better job dealing with it than the one they’ve spent the last four years cheering and apologizing for, and to say otherwise is to “politicize” the disease.

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Posted: Dec 30, 2020 - 8:01am

The Restaurants We’ve Lost

Dec. 28, 2020

This has been a harrowing year for restaurants — for the people who work in them, the people who own them and the people who support them by dining out. Beloved places have struggled to make ends meet, and thousands have not been able to. From fine-dining trailblazers to longtime neighborhood favorites, we commemorate just some of the many that had to close their doors forever in 2020.

https://www.nytimes.com/intera...

go out and support your favorite local spots...sit out in the cold and have a meal, or at least get takeout.
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Posted: Dec 29, 2020 - 8:58pm

Massachusetts GOP leader says he likely got covid-19 at a White House Hanukkah party: ‘I’m paying the price’
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