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Posted: Oct 28, 2020 - 9:31pm



 kurtster wrote:
For those who may be interested regarding the recent shopping spree going on in Philly over a police shooting ...

I was made aware of this little bit of relevant info earlier today ... The reason that TASERS were not used is because the Philly police have very few if any due to budget cuts.  All's they have is their guns.  I am sure that someone here will correct me if this is wrong.

So much for defunding the police.  You can't have it both ways.
 

This Philadelphia Inquirer story doesn't seem to fully back you up on Tasers, Kurt. According the piece about 1/3 of Philly officers have received the training for Taser use and are required to carry Tasers. The police force has asked for more Tasers in its budget request. It also reveals that the Philly police and courts were quite familiar with William Wallace and his bipolar disorder. 

The two officers who shot Wallace weren't carrying Tasers. Regardless, it's not clear why they fired around a dozen shots. Wallace's wife told police when they arrived at the scene that Wallace was bipolar. Philly police had been called to that address two times earlier that day in response to "reports of disturbances."

"Defunding" doesn't necessarily mean less money for police. It can also mean more money for social services to help police deal with mentally disturbed people. According to the piece, the police force has a behavioral health specialist available to dispatched officers via radio, but that specialist wasn't available at the time. 

Philly police had been called many times to Walter Wallace Jr.’s house, sources say, sparking questions about why he was shot



Police were called dozens of times in recent months about problems at Walter Wallace Jr.’s home, and had responded twice on Monday to reports of disturbances at the West Philadelphia house before two officers answered a third call and shot him as he approached them with a knife, according to law enforcement sources.

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But the confirmation of previous visits, by sources not authorized to publicly discuss them, fueled growing questions about the police response to what Wallace’s relatives have described as a mental health crisis.

A lawyer for Wallace’s family, Shaka Johnson, said that before the shooting, relatives had called 911 asking for an ambulance — not police officers — to help mitigate the 27-year-old’s spiraling condition. Calling the shooting “unjustified,” Johnson said that Wallace’s pregnant wife had told officers when they arrived that her husband had bipolar disorder.

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Wallace had been in and out of court for nearly a decade, with convictions for crimes including resisting arrest and robbery. Court records show that city judges routinely sought to get him mental health treatment.

During a Tuesday afternoon news conference, the police commissioner said that the department was “still backtracking to find out what the officers knew” when they arrived Monday afternoon at Wallace’s house on the 6100 block of Locust Street. Outlaw also said a new city program to put a behavioral health specialist in the police dispatch center only operates during limited hours, and that the assigned counselor was not in the radio room at the time of the afternoon call regarding a disturbance at Wallace’s house.

Law enforcement sources said that before Monday’s calls, police had received 31 radio calls since May concerning that address. Some calls were considered low priority, while others included reports of a person with a weapon, threats, or assaults, the sources said.


The first two calls to police on Monday were reports of domestic disturbances. Chief Inspector Frank Vanore said at the same news conference that the third call was a report of a man with a knife.

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Outlaw said neither officer who fired was equipped with a Taser — which uses electroshocks to temporarily stun its target. According to a department spokesperson, 2,301 officers, or about a third of the force, have completed the proper training to carry Tasers and are required to carry them while on duty.

The U.S. Department of Justice in 2017 recommended that all Philadelphia officers be issued Tasers to carry at all times, a standard Outlaw said the department still aspires to meet.

She said the department had asked for additional money in its last budget request to “continue to outfit our officers with Tasers,” but did not provide details about how many might be purchased, or when universal adoption would be complete.





kurtster

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Posted: Oct 28, 2020 - 8:43pm

For those who may be interested regarding the recent shopping spree going on in Philly over a police shooting ...

I was made aware of this little bit of relevant info earlier today ... The reason that TASERS were not used is because the Philly police have very few if any due to budget cuts.  All's they have is their guns.  I am sure that someone here will correct me if this is wrong.

So much for defunding the police.  You can't have it both ways.
black321

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Posted: Oct 27, 2020 - 12:14pm

for reference, this is for just one retailer (Walgreens):

During the fiscal 2020, significant looting impacted certain stores with varying degrees of damage throughout the United States. As a result, the Company recognized $68 million charge during the fiscal 2020 for estimated store damage and inventory losses, net of insurance recoveries.

kcar

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Posted: Oct 26, 2020 - 1:08pm


Who gives a fVk what Andy Ngo has to say?
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Oct 26, 2020 - 8:56am



 KarmaKarma wrote:


Also - the poster is for today.  First posted online probably very recently.  I wouldn't imagine any image indexer has had the fortune to stumble upon it just yet, because indexing the online universe is not an instant thing, not even for Google.
 

And yet, here you are, with not just the image, but supporting documentation.
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Posted: Oct 26, 2020 - 8:14am

KarmaKarma wrote:

Credible
doesn't mean useful to a faction in Congress, it means fit to be believed. It's an English (the language, not the nationality) thing.

I'd explain it in terms you'd understand better but my Russian is rusty.
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Posted: Oct 25, 2020 - 5:26pm



 Lazy8 wrote:
KarmaKarma wrote:
It's not some random image off some rando webpage.  It comes from a known credible source.

Also - the poster is for today.  First posted online probably very recently.  I wouldn't imagine any image indexer has had the fortune to stumble upon it just yet, because indexing the online universe is not an instant thing, not even for Google.

You're welcome.>

If he were credible
he'd have a source shown. You know, to prove it's not just made up.

Breitbart had a picture of a poster it claimed was for the event—which happened, BTW. You can read all about it here. Needless to say shit did not get fucked up.

The Moms United For Black Lives Facebook group is private so I can't tell if the image was posted there, but it has 11K members so perhaps you could use your epic tools of persuasion to get one of them to check for you. Or, you know, join.
 
If he were credible ...

June 29: Andy Ngo Testifies About Antifa at Congressional Briefing, House Committee on Oversight and Reform

August 4: C-SPAN - Andy Ngo Senate Testimony

Lazy8

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Posted: Oct 25, 2020 - 4:26pm

KarmaKarma wrote:
It's not some random image off some rando webpage.  It comes from a known credible source.

Also - the poster is for today.  First posted online probably very recently.  I wouldn't imagine any image indexer has had the fortune to stumble upon it just yet, because indexing the online universe is not an instant thing, not even for Google.

You're welcome.>

If he were credible he'd have a source shown. You know, to prove it's not just made up.

Breitbart had a picture of a poster it claimed was for the event—which happened, BTW. You can read all about it here. Needless to say shit did not get fucked up.

The Moms United For Black Lives Facebook group is private so I can't tell if the image was posted there, but it has 11K members so perhaps you could use your epic tools of persuasion to get one of them to check for you. Or, you know, join.
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Posted: Oct 25, 2020 - 1:39pm



 Lazy8 wrote:
KarmaKarma wrote:

Funny, neither tineye nor a google reverse image search could find that image anywhere on the web. Good chance it's a fake. Wouldn't want you to fall for a hoax and spread disinformation!

You're welcome.
 
It's not some random image off some rando webpage.  It comes from a known credible source.

Also - the poster is for today.  First posted online probably very recently.  I wouldn't imagine any image indexer has had the fortune to stumble upon it just yet, because indexing the online universe is not an instant thing, not even for Google.

You're welcome.





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Posted: Oct 25, 2020 - 1:27pm

KarmaKarma wrote:

Funny, neither tineye nor a google reverse image search could find that image anywhere on the web. Good chance it's a fake. Wouldn't want you to fall for a hoax and spread disinformation!

You're welcome.
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Posted: Oct 25, 2020 - 10:22am


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Posted: Oct 25, 2020 - 7:19am



 Red_Dragon wrote:

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Posted: Oct 25, 2020 - 7:06am

AP Finds Most Arrested in Protests Aren’t Leftist Radicals
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Posted: Oct 20, 2020 - 2:29pm

Inaction. Reaction.

Rot in hell, Seattle city council.

Seattle police officers quit force, slam 'socialist city council and their political agenda'


The Post Millennial has obtained over 175 pages of exit interviews from more than one hundred Seattle Police Department officers stating their reasons for leaving the force. This following a record setting exodus of officers from the force of over 118 officers in 2020, 39 officers in September alone.

The same comments, often expressing the same frustrations, can be seen repeatedly through the documents.
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Posted: Oct 19, 2020 - 5:22am

silly people whipped into a frenzy and initiating violence

ganging up on people and hurting them isn't a good idea

can't have anything nice
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Posted: Oct 6, 2020 - 4:51pm


R_P

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Posted: Oct 6, 2020 - 8:53am

 Prof. Fake News wrote:
Actually, none of you know anything at all.  This has been shown repeatedly.


KarmaKarma

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Posted: Oct 6, 2020 - 8:13am



 miamizsun wrote:


however, there's a lot of really ugly video that most people (esp on the left) probably haven't seen

my concern is that this kind of behavior/video by blm/antifa could easily persuade people to vote in the other direction

outright threatening violence is a poor look regardless of which/whose kool-aid you're swilling

to win the election, you'll need the center/moderate votes and these radical nutters aren't helping

if trump wins, i think these people will deserve some of the credit/blame


 
Accurate.  Good take.

Although, don't fall for "if Trump wins".... he WILL win, and it's only a matter of how many more states will turn red from the 2016 result.

The "if Trump wins" and 'Biden is leading in the polls' narrative is a desperate attempt by the activist liberal media that the left insists on continuing to consume after the same media have been shown to have lied to you, over and over since 2016, if not earlier.

An old and incomplete list. 


Does anyone remember them?  Hoax after hoax, the left continues to fall for every freaking one of them.  

And of course, the whole Russia gate thing was recently exposed as being promoted and approved by Hillary as a distraction for her email scandal.  fyi Her email crimes are still under investigation!

Democratic voters deserve better leaders and representatives than Biden, Schumer, Pelosi, AOC, Schiff, Tlaib & Omar - their actions and words have supported the ongoing violence and anarchy in the streets.  No one seriously wants that.  This is one of the reasons Trump will win big in November.

And of course, the Republicans deserve a better leader than Trump too.  However, you have to admit - he's done what he promised to do and that in itself is a huge departure from politics as usual.  The Republicans are well ahead of the Democrats already in positioning their platform for 2024
miamizsun

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Posted: Oct 6, 2020 - 4:59am

 KarmaKarma wrote:
 miamizsun wrote:
i know you're in here jacking around

Actually, none of you know anything at all.  This has been shown repeatedly.
 
thanks
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Posted: Oct 6, 2020 - 4:51am



 miamizsun wrote:

i know you're in here jacking around


Actually, none of you know anything at all.  This has been shown repeatedly.

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