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Posted: Jan 13, 2021 - 2:30pm



 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:


 R_P wrote: 
It's all fun and games until someone loses a democracy and gets to wear the official Hugo Boss outfit.
  



 


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Posted: Jan 13, 2021 - 1:40pm



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...and that's why there are things like reading out the riot act. Crowds gathered for legal, if not necessarily moral, purposes can easily get out of hand. But being part of the getting out of hand is no excuse. Not even a tempering factor
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Posted: Jan 13, 2021 - 12:57pm

White Riot
How racism, grievance, resentment and the fear of diminished status came together to fuel violence and mayhem on Jan. 6.
There is no question that out-and-out racism and a longing to return to the days of white supremacy were high on the list of motivations of the pro-Trump mob that ransacked the Capitol on Jan. 6.

That should not end the discussion about why it happened, though. There are other questions we need to ask that do not (and could never) justify the violence and mayhem but seek instead to help us gain further insight into the lethal force that attacked Congress a week ago and is poised to strike again.

It may sound trivial at first, in light of what happened, but how important is the frustration among what pollsters call non-college white men at not being able to compete with those higher up on the socioeconomic ladder because of educational disadvantage? How critical is declining value in marriage — or mating — markets? Does any of that really matter?

How toxic is the combination of pessimism and anger that stems from a deterioration in standing and authority? What might engender existential despair, this sense of irretrievable loss? How hard is it for any group, whether it is racial, political or ethnic, to come to terms with losing power and status? What encourages desperate behavior and a willingness to believe a pack of lies?

I posed these questions to a wide range of experts. This column explores their replies. (...)

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Posted: Jan 13, 2021 - 11:55am



 R_P wrote: 
It's all fun and games until someone loses a democracy and gets to wear the official Hugo Boss outfit.
  



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Posted: Jan 13, 2021 - 11:44am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:
 R_P wrote:
Decoding the Far-Right Symbols at the Capitol Riot
There were militia flags and banners of extremist groups, as well as absurd images of dinosaurs and comic book logos that belied the violence that was to unfold.



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"...But perhaps it’s this very unseriousness, this retreat from the disappointments and defeats of real life, that provides the appeal of political fantasy. A similar process takes place in the extreme right’s use of “ironic” memes and jokes that revel in their own absurdity: irony suspends the rules that usually govern people’s lives, allowing them to say and do things without “really saying them”, to engage in a kind of camp play-acting, until, of course, they feel comfortable really believing it, and drop the pretence.."
 
It's all fun and games until someone loses a democracy and gets to wear the official Hugo Boss outfit.
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Posted: Jan 13, 2021 - 11:34am



 R_P wrote:
Decoding the Far-Right Symbols at the Capitol Riot
There were militia flags and banners of extremist groups, as well as absurd images of dinosaurs and comic book logos that belied the violence that was to unfold.

 

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"...But perhaps it’s this very unseriousness, this retreat from the disappointments and defeats of real life, that provides the appeal of political fantasy. A similar process takes place in the extreme right’s use of “ironic” memes and jokes that revel in their own absurdity: irony suspends the rules that usually govern people’s lives, allowing them to say and do things without “really saying them”, to engage in a kind of camp play-acting, until, of course, they feel comfortable really believing it, and drop the pretence.."
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Posted: Jan 13, 2021 - 10:46am

Decoding the Far-Right Symbols at the Capitol Riot
There were militia flags and banners of extremist groups, as well as absurd images of dinosaurs and comic book logos that belied the violence that was to unfold.

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Posted: Jan 12, 2021 - 3:19pm


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Posted: Jan 12, 2021 - 10:24am



 Steely_D wrote:


I bet that's where I read it. Opened the tab, got to it later, forgot to credit you. Apologies.
 


No worries, I'm an obsessive redundancy cop.
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Posted: Jan 12, 2021 - 10:21am



 Red_Dragon wrote:


 Steely_D wrote:
 

ahem...


 

I bet that's where I read it. Opened the tab, got to it later, forgot to credit you. Apologies.
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Posted: Jan 12, 2021 - 10:12am



 Steely_D wrote:
 

ahem...


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Posted: Jan 12, 2021 - 9:44am

This literal American Hero leads the seditionists up the stairs, away from the American Congress (when he says "second floor" into his mic and then stands in a doorway, that's where they are - and he walks away from it), and into a chamber where they come up against his reinforcements. 

Tactically brilliant stuff, under intense pressure. He deserves acknowledgement - but, as you know, the White House wouldn't even honor the murdered officer until it was pressured to do so.


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Posted: Jan 12, 2021 - 9:35am

Wollt ihr den totalen Krieg?
Proud Boys Continue to Incite Violence in the Wake of Capitol Insurrection
Another prominent Proud Boys Telegram channel is “Proud Boys: Uncensored,” which is reportedly being operated by the leader of the New Hampshire chapter of the Proud Boys, Todd M. Clark. The fascism-promoting channel has continued to incite violence in the wake of the attack on the Capitol, claiming that “the difference between a patriot and a rebel depends on who wins the war.”

The channel also encouraged its followers to target politicians. It posted a clip of Sen. Lindsey Graham being harassed by an angry mob of Trump supporters at the airport with the caption, “They’re no longer safe in public … Never let these system agents known a moment of peace.”

Shortly thereafter, the “Proud Boys: Uncensored” channel polled its followers on whether or not they wanted “total war.” More than 10,500 people voted in the poll, 75 percent of whom voted “yes.”

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Posted: Jan 12, 2021 - 9:11am



 kcar wrote:


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Trump incited a riot and encouraged the overthrow of our democracy. People died. 

Nice try, though. 
 
Nothing is ever wrong when done by Republicans, because someone else has done it too!

As pointed out by the link elsewhere here today, there is a difference between law enforcement and sedition.  

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Posted: Jan 12, 2021 - 9:03am

“People thought what I said was totally appropriate,” Mr. Trump told reporters at Joint Base Andrews, en route to Alamo, Texas, where he was set to visit the border wall. Instead, Mr. Trump claimed that racial justice protests over the summer were “the real problem.”
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Posted: Jan 12, 2021 - 12:38am

State Capitols ‘on High Alert,’ Fearing More Violence
Officials around the country are bracing for any spillover from last week’s violent assault on the U.S. Capitol. State legislatures already have become targets for protesters in recent days.
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Posted: Jan 11, 2021 - 11:16pm


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Posted: Jan 11, 2021 - 8:50pm

Before Capitol Riot, Republican Lawmakers Fanned the Flames
A “1776 moment”: Several of the president’s closest allies in Congress used bellicose language to urge their supporters to attend the Jan. 6 rally that turned into a deadly riot.
For his part, Mr. Brooks has remained unapologetic about his role in encouraging the rioters.

“I make no apology for doing my absolute best to inspire patriotic Americans to not give up on our country and to fight back against anti-Christian socialists in the 2022 and 2024 elections,” Mr. Brooks told a local newspaper. “I encourage EVERY citizen to watch my entire rally speech and decide for themselves what kind of America they want: One based on freedom and liberty or one based on godless dictatorial power.”

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Posted: Jan 11, 2021 - 6:04pm



 KarmaKarma wrote:
 

Trump incited a riot and encouraged the overthrow of our democracy. People died. 

Nice try, though. 
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Posted: Jan 11, 2021 - 4:54pm

28 Times Media And Democrats Excused Or Endorsed Violence Committed By Left-Wing Activists
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