About what we and most of the rest of the world pay, factoring in exchange rate, even after the price drop due to covid since people were driving significantly less. Nothing personal, but cry me a river. Besides, it will have a positive impact on the demand for renewables.
(I know your point was to counter kurtsters claim that it was due to cancelling the pipeline)
The US prices are still low compared to most places in the world.
Another factor is that many states increased the gas tax last summer when revenues dropped from reduced consumption. A lot of use-based taxes went up...tolls, service fees, permits...all under the heading of COVID. Very few government workers lost their jobs, and now the fed has provided bailout money to states. Any guess on how many tax increases will be rolled back?
Sorry...but Kurt is complaining about canceling the pipeline, while simultaneously suggesting the Trump created energy independence for the US? If we're independent, why do we need Canadian oil? He must realize the pipeline is owned by Canadians?
It's amazing how rugged individuals who cherish freedom and independence will complain about a few pennies at the pump and the loss of some jobs.
What's amazing about yesterday is that both Putin and China pandered to the Trump crowd. They literally used the same type of arguments against the new administration that Trump would have made. They see how successful lies and propaganda have been at distracting the US...how Republicans won't do anything to support Biden for fear of losing the base...and they are pulling the same levers.
Trump's damage to the US will last decades, and if we're not careful, it will become permanent.
i don't think this is about trump
putin may want to use this response as some sort of opportunity to posture against the united states/biden's posturing/rhetoric
About what we and most of the rest of the world pay, factoring in exchange rate, even after the price drop due to covid since people were driving significantly less. Nothing personal, but cry me a river. Besides, it will have a positive impact on the demand for renewables.
(I know your point was to counter kurtsters claim that it was due to cancelling the pipeline)
But if we have to pay the same price as the rest of the world, then why are we spending all this money on our military all over the place to defend oil interests?
About what we and most of the rest of the world pay, factoring in exchange rate, even after the price drop due to covid since people were driving significantly less. Nothing personal, but cry me a river. Besides, it will have a positive impact on the demand for renewables.
(I know your point was to counter kurtsters claim that it was due to cancelling the pipeline)
What's amazing about yesterday is that both Putin and China pandered to the Trump crowd. They literally used the same type of arguments against the new administration that Trump would have made. They see how successful lies and propaganda have been at distracting the US...how Republicans won't do anything to support Biden for fear of losing the base...and they are pulling the same levers.
Trump's damage to the US will last decades, and if we're not careful, it will become permanent.
Russian President Vladimir Putin has reacted to President Joe Biden calling him a "killer" by challenging Biden to take part in a conversation with him broadcast live online.
“I’ve just thought of this now,” Putin told a Russian state television reporter. “I want to propose to President Biden to continue our discussion, but on the condition that we do it basically live, as it’s called. Without any delays and directly in an open, direct discussion. It seems to me that would be interesting for the people of Russia and for the people of the United States.”
After issuing his invitation, Putin said he didn’t want to delay, proposing he and Biden hold the discussion as early as Friday.
“I don’t want to put this off for long. I want to go the taiga this weekend to relax a little,” Putin said. “So we could do it tomorrow or Monday. We are ready at any time convenient for the American side.”
Biden’s remarks in the ABC interview that aired Wednesday has triggered a furious reaction from Russia’s government, which unleashed a barrage of criticism and took the extraordinary step of recalling its ambassador back to Moscow for "consultations" over the comments.
In the interview, Stephanopoulos asked Biden if he thinks Putin “is a killer.”
“Mmm hmm, I do,” Biden responded.
Before issuing the discussion challenge, Putin reacted to Biden’s comment earlier with a playground retort: “I know you are, but what am I.”
“You know, I remember, in childhood, when we were arguing with each other in the courtyard, we would say, ‘I know you are, but what am I,’” Putin said. “And that’s no accident. It’s not just a childish saying. There is a very deep meaning in that.”
The oil industry, known for boom-bust cycles, is resisting the temptation to pump more oil â for now.
... An accelerating rollout of vaccines in the United States is expected to turbocharge the American economy this spring and summer, encouraging people to travel, shop and commute. In addition, President Bidenâs pandemic relief package will put more money in the pockets of consumers, especially those who are still out of work.
Even before Congress approved that legislation, oil and gasoline prices were rebounding after last yearâs collapse in fuel demand and prices. Gas prices have risen about 35 cents a gallon on average over the last month, according to the AAA motor club, and could reach $4 a gallon in some states by summer. While overall inflation remains subdued, some economists are worried that prices, especially for fuel, could rise faster this year than they have in some time. That would hurt working-class families more because they tend to drive older, less efficient vehicles and spend a higher share of their income on fuel.
In recent weeks oil prices have surged to over $65 a barrel, a level that would have seemed impossible only a year ago, when some traders were forced to pay buyers to take oil off their hands. Oil prices fell by more than $50 a barrel in a single day last April, to less than zero.
That bizarre day seems to have become seared into the memories of oil executives. The industry was forced to idle hundreds of rigs and throttle many wells shut, some for good. Roughly 120,000 American oil and gas workers lost their jobs over the last year or so, and companies are expected to lay off 10,000 workers this year, according to Rystad Energy, a consulting firm.
Yet, even as they are making more money thanks to the higher prices, industry executives pledged at a recent energy conference that they would not expand production significantly. They also promised to pay down debt and hand out more of their profits to shareholders in the form of dividends.
... Scott Sheffield, chief executive of Pioneer Natural Resources, a major Texas producer, predicted that American production would remain flat at 11 million barrels a day this year, compared with 12.8 million barrels immediately before the pandemic took hold.
Even the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries and allied producers like Russia surprised many analysts this month by keeping several million barrels of oil off the market. OPECâs 13 members and nine partners are pumping roughly 780,000 barrels of oil a day less than at the beginning of the year even though prices have risen by 30 percent in recent months.
As always, tensions in the Middle East could determine what happens to oil prices. In recent weeks drone attacks on energy facilities in Saudi Arabia sent shudders through oil markets. While Houthi rebels in Yemen claimed credit for the operation, the drones may well have been launched by Iran, which is allied with the rebels, according to Saudi security officials.
âThe heating up of whatâs commonly understood as a proxy war between Iran and Saudi Arabia in Yemen is just adding to the bullish oil price fever,â said Louise Dickson, a Rystad Energy oil markets analyst.
Nope. Fail. Big time ... Note that the election in November is the lowest point on the graph ... Since Biden killed the XL Pipeline with the stroke of a pen, wholesale gas has gone up 50¢ per gallon (roughly 30%) and there is no end in sight. Thanks, Joe and all of you who voted for him .
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The end of the XL pipeline did not have an appreciable effect on gas prices.
Well I'm one. Even though I don't act like one. And you know what... I'd rather not get checks from the government. The reason why? Sooner or later I, we, mostly everybody that works for a living will have to pay it back. Either with more taxes (They're on the way). Or through inflation. (It's on the way). And I still work for a living. Almost 50 years now. I never looked for a hand out my entire life. Never depended on anyone but myself. I like it that way. I've been blessed in many ways. Now before you label me as some sort of hateful person that wants to take things from people that need it. I'm all for helping those who need it. THOSE WHO NEED IT. Everybody wants something for nothing. Me too. But being on this plant for almost 67 years now... I've found that doesn't work well.
I look at it, not as getting something for nothing but as an insurance payout. Sure, you paid into the system and will pay to cover the costs, but like any insurance, government covid relief is designed to cover the costs of unforeseen events that can't be handled on an individual basis by most people.
His (Biden's) policies in two months did not push gas prices up (TX refineries froze) ...
Nope. Fail. Big time ... Note that the election in November is the lowest point on the graph ... Since Biden killed the XL Pipeline with the stroke of a pen, wholesale gas has gone up 50¢ per gallon (roughly 30%) and there is no end in sight. Thanks, Joe and all of you who voted for him .
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old White men, mostly.
Well I'm one. Even though I don't act like one. And you know what... I'd rather not get checks from the government. The reason why? Sooner or later I, we, mostly everybody that works for a living will have to pay it back. Either with more taxes (They're on the way). Or through inflation. (It's on the way). And I still work for a living. Almost 50 years now. I never looked for a hand out my entire life. Never depended on anyone but myself. I like it that way. I've been blessed in many ways. Now before you label me as some sort of hateful person that wants to take things from people that need it. I'm all for helping those who need it. THOSE WHO NEED IT. Everybody wants something for nothing. Me too. But being on this plant for almost 67 years now... I've found that doesn't work well.
The conservative climate fear-mongering begins over Biden's Keystone XL order:
Those 10,000 construction jobs? They donât actually exist
Some people may likely lose their jobs as a result of Bidenâs order on Wednesday. TC Energy announced suspension of the project following the permit revocation, and Keystone XL President Richard Prior told the Associated Press that âover 1,000 jobs, the majority unionized, will be eliminated in the coming weeks.â This is not technically a layoff announcement, as the WSJ claimed, and it is nothing to be celebrated. But itâs also not something that should be exaggerated for political gain.
The 10,000 union jobs Republicans and the fossil fuel industry claim Biden killed were, first and foremost, hypothetical.
Keystone XL was still awaiting permits in several states before it could begin construction, according to the Montana Free Press, and other permits are still tied up in legal challenges. TC Energy also isnât directly employing Keystone XL pipeline workers; it issued grants in October to construction companies to do so. Thereâs little evidence that those companies have employed many people so far.
The jobs Keystone XL were eventually going to support were also mostly temporaryâone-to-two year construction jobs, at most. âOnce Keystone is completed, only 35 permanent employees would be needed to operate the pipeline along with 15 temporary contractors,â reported back in 2017. âSo, the Keystone XL isn't expected to be a boom for the job market by any stretch.â
The pipeline was expected to be a boom, however, for the climate crisis. âEmissions associated with the production, refining, and combustion of the tar sands in Keystone XL would have resulted in 168 million metric tons of carbon dioxide emissions each year (equivalent to the emissions from 35.5 million internal combustion vehicles)âemissions we simply cannot afford to lock in,â wrote Anthony Swift at the Natural Resources Defense Council.
The Biden administration rejected Keystone XLâs permit because it asserts the enormous economic consequences of climate change outweigh the economic benefits of 35 new permanent jobs.
Facts, not propaganda soundbites: 1. Biden wants to entice companies to return to US or closer to US for production to get our supply chain to stronger efficiency and stability. 2. Federal Contractors will now use guidelines that incorporate American made materials - not foreign products. (Pssst, corporations were STILL going offshore and to Mexico during Trump's term)
3. TAX LOOPHOLES have been closed in this recent Covid Package, upping some taxes on those who earn $170,000.00 a year or more, NOT TO BE CONFLATED with the actual wealth tax to be placed on income over $400,000.00 Please note that GOPsneaked Tax Cuts into the first two Covid packages in 2020) https://www.washingtonpost.com... Dec. 22, 2020 at 7:27 p.m. CSTCongress on Monday unveiled a 5,593-page spending bill and then voted on it several hours later, with lawmakers claiming urgent action was needed to rescue an ailing economy ravaged by the coronavirus pandemic. But tucked in the bill was over $110 billion in tax breaks that strayed far from the way the bill was marketed to many Americans. These giveaways include big tax cuts for liquor producers, the motorsports entertainment sector and manufacturers of electric motorcycles.
4. One Ford Plant moving to Mexico is a business decision by the Company before Biden has had a chance to sweeten Corporate pots to encourage them to stay here. His policies in two months did not push gas prices up (TX refineries froze) or push companies to move offshore.
The U.S. Government is neither Instant Pudding or a Porche; it does not turn on a dime. Its more like the Titanic, the previous administration's influence doesn't immediately dissipate the moment the new Prez steps over the threshold.
and #5:
Day 46 without a Capitol Insurrection and Police Beatings and Deaths.
