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Posted: Jul 29, 2023 - 12:32pm

 westslope wrote:
Gaslight much?

You should have seen him in action around here ~20 years ago.

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Posted: Jul 29, 2023 - 9:01am

Excellent, balanced article:
Chondar bridge in Crimea reported to have been hit again today.

And then there's this offensive underway, which may be the breakthrough to eventually cut the Russian supply land bridge:


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Posted: Jul 29, 2023 - 8:24am

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When you rely on mainstream news media for your news on a war with a highly motivated David slowly grinding down a weaker than expected and stupid Goliath.  

You're on TweeterX, R_P, so why not follow some credible sources there for a more balanced picture?


Gaslight much?
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Posted: Jul 29, 2023 - 8:23am

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When you rely on mainstream news media for your news on a war with a highly motivated David slowly grinding down a weaker than expected and stupid Goliath.  

You're on TweeterX, R_P, so why not follow some credible sources there for a more balanced picture?

Start here: Institute for the Study of War
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Posted: Jul 29, 2023 - 7:15am

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could we define winning as not rolling over and sacrificing your country and tens of millions of innocent people to a psychopath?
because if we can... 
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Posted: Jul 28, 2023 - 6:26pm

'Zelenskyy is in a box': Some experts say Ukraine won't win the war.
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Posted: Jul 28, 2023 - 8:34am

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An Unwinnable War
Washington Needs an Endgame in Ukraine

Washington needs.

Not a word about what Ukrainians need.

There's an interesting suggestion in there about how we get Ukraine to accept a negotiated deal where Russia keeps some large part of its eastern provinces in exchange for a security guarantee. They already got one in 1994, signed by the Russian president, the US president, and the Prime Minister of Great Britain. It promised that all concerned would protect and respect Ukraine's borders and sovereignty. Why should they fall for that again?

The proposal outlined would make a nice tidy package for the US to wash its hands of the whole messy conflict and leave Ukraine to its fate. The US could negotiate the surrender of Ukraine, but Ukraine would have to actually surrender. It's not clear to me why that would (or should) happen.
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Posted: Jul 28, 2023 - 6:58am

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Just parking this here for posterity for the next time Seymour Hersh is quoted as a tenable source.





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Posted: Jul 28, 2023 - 6:56am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

Just parking this here for posterity for the next time Seymour Hersh is quoted as a tenable source.



Ha!  Well, Hersch is also a known plagiarist, so that could factor in too!
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Posted: Jul 28, 2023 - 12:31am

Just parking this here for posterity for the next time Seymour Hersh is quoted as a tenable source.

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Posted: Jul 27, 2023 - 11:58pm

An Unwinnable War
Washington Needs an Endgame in Ukraine
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Posted: Jul 27, 2023 - 7:17pm

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Cluster Bombs and the Contradictions of Liberalism

Once upon a time, the USA manufactured cluster bombs and sold them to Israel which deployed them in southern Lebanon.  Now Israel manufactures its own cluster bombs.   Would be curious to know if Israel exports cluster bombs.  

Allegedly.

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Posted: Jul 27, 2023 - 4:14pm

Cluster Bombs and the Contradictions of Liberalism

Once upon a time, the USA manufactured cluster bombs and sold them to Israel which deployed them in southern Lebanon.  Now Israel manufactures its own cluster bombs.   Would be curious to know if Israel exports cluster bombs.  
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Posted: Jul 27, 2023 - 7:30am

Ukraine Situation Report: Main Thrust Of Counteroffensive Has Begun, Report States

Several good Twitter sources quoted and linked in this broad article.  Good follows, if you're on Twitter...  err X
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Posted: Jul 27, 2023 - 12:24am

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Straw man?  Not at all. Although it would be very convenient for you to nullify the general will of Ukrainians to self-determination, which is basically what you are doing and intellectually more than lazy. 
Is Ukraine a large country with a diverse population? Of course it is. In fact that is precisely why they do not want Neo-Soviet de facto totalitarian rule. 
And that is the very thing that has united the country against the Russian invasion.

Repeating it doesn't make it any truer. At least, for me.

Is German self-determination compatible with being told what energy infrastructure you can or cannot implement? (Rhetorical, no gymnastics required).
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Posted: Jul 27, 2023 - 12:19am

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A straw man.

You realize a part of the people are complicit and have varying compatible agendas? Not monolithic.

Preserving primacy is power politics. And all dressed-up.

Why then blame Russia, etc., etc.?


Straw man?  Not at all. Although it would be very convenient for you to nullify the general will of Ukrainians to self-determination, which is basically what you are doing and intellectually more than lazy. 
Is Ukraine a large country with a diverse population? Of course it is. In fact that is precisely why they do not want Neo-Soviet de facto totalitarian rule. 
And that is the very thing that has united the country against the Russian invasion. 


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Posted: Jul 26, 2023 - 11:33pm

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I hope you do realise your arguments are circular. By denying agency on the part of the people and positing that they are all just puppets of state machinations (in this case the US), it all just becomes power politics in the sense of Mearsheimer without any underlying moral justification or cause. Why then, blame the US for the very thing Russia is itself guilty of?

A straw man.

You realize a part of the people are complicit and have varying compatible agendas? Not monolithic.

Preserving primacy is power politics. And all dressed-up.

Why then blame Russia, etc., etc.?
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Posted: Jul 26, 2023 - 10:50pm

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Self-evidently self-serving.

Coup: "The Extent of the Obama Administration’s Meddling in Ukraine’s Politics Was BREATHTAKING"

More or less the same points as a Greenwald video posted earlier.


I hope you do realise your arguments are circular. By denying agency on the part of the people and positing that they are all just puppets of state machinations (in this case the US), it all just becomes power politics in the sense of Mearsheimer without any underlying moral justification or cause. Why then, blame the US for the very thing Russia is itself guilty of?
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Posted: Jul 25, 2023 - 7:33pm

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Coherent points: In response to Russian pressure, the west did not allow Ukraine to join NATO. Russia built up a separatist movement in eastern Ukraine and then used their military to annex Crimea. Since it was not part of NATO, the west did little to support Ukraine in response. Russia saw this tepid reaction and decided they could invade to take over the whole country. War goes on, people get killed. Russian propaganda and statements from some in the west attempt to portray this as the fault of the US. R_P yet again avoids putting together his position when asked to clarify wtf he actually means with his non-sentences and winky emojis. 

Self-evidently self-serving.

Coup: "The Extent of the Obama Administration’s Meddling in Ukraine’s Politics Was BREATHTAKING"

More or less the same points as a Greenwald video posted earlier.
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