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Posted: Aug 7, 2020 - 6:33am

Our nation is in a free fall. But sure, let’s talk about Hillary’s emails again.
"As Americans grapple with public health, economic and racial-justice crises, Trump and his allies are talking about antifa, illegal immigrants and 'Obamagate'....”
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Posted: Aug 6, 2020 - 10:57am

The other kind of identity politics...
How white supremacy infected Christianity and the Republican Party
Robert P. Jones, chief executive and founder of the Public Religion Research Institute (PRRI), is fast becoming the leading expert in the values, votes and mind-set of White Christians. His work has explained how loss of primacy in American society fueled a white-grievance mentality — the same mind-set President Trump so effectively read and manipulated.

His latest book, “White Too Long: The Legacy of White Supremacy in American Christianity,” is a masterful study documenting how white supremacy came to dominate not just Southern culture, but White Christianity. In it, he argues that “most white Christian churches have protected white supremacy by dressing it in theological garb, giving it a home in a respected institution, and calibrating it to local cultural sensibilities.” He also recounts ways in which White churches are moving to account for their past and explore their history with Black Americans.

Jones posits that it is not simply intermingling a celebration of the “Lost Cause” and religion that has led White Christians who do not think of themselves of racists to harbor views that reinforce racism; he also points to the theological worldview of White Christians, including “an individualist view of sin (which ignores institutional racism), an emphasis on a personal relationship with Jesus, and the Bible as the protector of the status quo.” If you want to know why White Christian ideology is the best predictor of racist attitudes (a shocking revelation for the author and likely many readers), the book is essential reading. (...)

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Posted: Aug 2, 2020 - 12:47pm

People are hopefully treating Trump like he is some kind of historical aberration.  He is not; Donald J. Trump is an ugly mirror.
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Posted: Aug 2, 2020 - 11:56am

 westslope wrote:
How do you abandon deeply held beliefs about character, personal responsibility, foreign policy and the national debt in a matter of months? You don’t. The obvious answer is those beliefs weren’t deeply held. What others and I thought were bedrock values turned out to be mere marketing slogans easily replaced.

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Posted: Aug 2, 2020 - 7:09am

I Hope This Is Not Another Lie About the Republican Party  - NYT shared article

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Posted: Aug 1, 2020 - 10:55pm

 Proclivities wrote:


 kurtster wrote:

Where's that old sucko barfo emoji when you need it.  I don't do oysters.

My Dad ate them like candy.  On one summer vacation over to Stinson Beach he took us out to a nearby seafood restaurant for dinner.  He pushed me to try them and I finally gave it a go but they were so repulsive that they couldn't have stayed down for more than seconds.  That was my first and last oysters.

The whole experience has been indelibly melted into my brain.  It is the same restaurant that they used in The Birds.  The one that goes out over the water on pilings where the birds come in to attack the whole town starting with that restaurant on to the gas station and then the school building.  It was actually a very charming little village.  I had my oysters there before the movie got off the story board.

It was very odd at times growing up in places that you saw in movies and television all of the time.  But that is another story for another time.
 
Wasn't that restaurant in Bodega Bay?  At least that's where the little schoolhouse was but he likely used different locations for different scenes.  I went into that town on the way back to SF from Sonoma County about 20 years ago; it was the scenic route.  I remember the people who gave us directions said to stay on the whatever road they directed us to until you get to the Bodega Bay and then get on Route 1.  It was a nice drive - quite scenic.
 
Exactly right.  Yeah, and it is still there.  We pretty much went there on every vacation.  My Dad really liked Tomales Bay and the drive through it.  He pointed out to us that it was created by an earthquake long ago.  It is the San Andreas Fault and where it turns out to sea and heads north.  We were going to Stinson Beach before they built the San Rafael Bay Bridge and used to take the ferry across that part of the bay to get there.  The first landmark on that side of the bay is San Quentin.  We'd drive down to it and there was a little overpass that we took and went right behind it on the way to Mill Valley and then up and over Mount Tamalpais down to 1.  And then Stinson Beach has ended up in a few things too including Fatal Attraction.  I could see Alcatraz from our house up in the Berkeley Hills and it was still very much open for business.

Then the most recognizable TV scene from one of my back yards is the opening scenes of Gilligan's Island where the Minnow is sailing out to sea for its 3 Hour Cruise.  That is actually the Newport Harbour entrance with the Wedge on the far side and my home beach, Big Corona in Corona del Mar on the near side.

The Tides Wharf & Restaurant

The unbelievably beautiful setting and view cannot be matched anywhere on the Sonoma Coast. Made famous in the early 1960’s as the backdrop for scenes of Alfred Hitchcock’s film classic, “The Birds”, The Tides remains a popular destination for locals and travelers from around the world.
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Posted: Aug 1, 2020 - 6:39am

 kurtster wrote:

Where's that old sucko barfo emoji when you need it.  I don't do oysters.

My Dad ate them like candy.  On one summer vacation over to Stinson Beach he took us out to a nearby seafood restaurant for dinner.  He pushed me to try them and I finally gave it a go but they were so repulsive that they couldn't have stayed down for more than seconds.  That was my first and last oysters.

The whole experience has been indelibly melted into my brain.  It is the same restaurant that they used in The Birds.  The one that goes out over the water on pilings where the birds come in to attack the whole town starting with that restaurant on to the gas station and then the school building.  It was actually a very charming little village.  I had my oysters there before the movie got off the story board.

It was very odd at times growing up in places that you saw in movies and television all of the time.  But that is another story for another time.
 
In coastal Carolina oysters are comfort food.  We actually had tables with a hole cut out in the middle to put your shuckin buckets in.  Burn barrels, beer, saltine crackers, cocktail sauce which consist of copious amounts of horseradish with just a splash of ketchup and hot sauce, blood mixed with oyster juice and shell fragments all over your hands from the oyster knife jabs on cold evenings with an R in the month.  Doesn't get any better than that.{#Cowboy}
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Posted: Aug 1, 2020 - 6:29am



 kurtster wrote:

Where's that old sucko barfo emoji when you need it.  I don't do oysters.

My Dad ate them like candy.  On one summer vacation over to Stinson Beach he took us out to a nearby seafood restaurant for dinner.  He pushed me to try them and I finally gave it a go but they were so repulsive that they couldn't have stayed down for more than seconds.  That was my first and last oysters.

The whole experience has been indelibly melted into my brain.  It is the same restaurant that they used in The Birds.  The one that goes out over the water on pilings where the birds come in to attack the whole town starting with that restaurant on to the gas station and then the school building.  It was actually a very charming little village.  I had my oysters there before the movie got off the story board.

It was very odd at times growing up in places that you saw in movies and television all of the time.  But that is another story for another time.
 
Wasn't that restaurant in Bodega Bay?  At least that's where the little schoolhouse was but he likely used different locations for different scenes.  I went into that town on the way back to SF from Sonoma County about 20 years ago; it was the scenic route.  I remember the people who gave us directions said to stay on the whatever road they directed us to until you get to the Bodega Bay and then get on Route 1.  It was a nice drive - quite scenic.
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Posted: Jul 31, 2020 - 10:44pm



 kurtster wrote:

Where's that old sucko barfo emoji when you need it.  I don't do oysters.

My Dad ate them like candy.  On one summer vacation over to Stinson Beach he took us out to a nearby seafood restaurant for dinner.  He pushed me to try them and I finally gave it a go but they were so repulsive that they couldn't have stayed down for more than seconds.  That was my first and last oysters.

The whole experience has been indelibly melted into my brain.  It is the same restaurant that they used in The Birds.  The one that goes out over the water on pilings where the birds come in to attack the whole town starting with that restaurant on to the gas station and then the school building.  It was actually a very charming little village.  I had my oysters there before the movie got off the story board.

It was very odd at times growing up in places that you saw in movies and television all of the time.  But that is another story for another time.
 

Somewhere, Hitch is chortling malevolently at your long-remembered discomfort. Maybe you should write your own "In Search of Lost Time"—you have your version of madeleine cakes, it seems.  

You could cook the damn oysters, or mix them in with other ingredients. Add 'em to soup or such like. 

Or, you could check out the link I provided which lists many other foods rich in zinc. Oysters just happen to be at the top of the list but you can eat other foods to boost your zinc levels. I'm not keen on health supplement pills because their purity and potency aren't well regulated if at all. 

Stay safe, you crazy diamond. 
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Posted: Jul 31, 2020 - 8:52pm

 kcar wrote:

"I've been taking zinc along with Vito C daily for roughly 30 years already. Now you can't find the stuff and when you do it costs 10 times as much as it used to."

Or you could eat some oysters. You can get 'em in a small can in the canned seafood section of your grocery store. 
https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Zinc-HealthProfessional/
 
Where's that old sucko barfo emoji when you need it.  I don't do oysters.

My Dad ate them like candy.  On one summer vacation over to Stinson Beach he took us out to a nearby seafood restaurant for dinner.  He pushed me to try them and I finally gave it a go but they were so repulsive that they couldn't have stayed down for more than seconds.  That was my first and last oysters.

The whole experience has been indelibly melted into my brain.  It is the same restaurant that they used in The Birds.  The one that goes out over the water on pilings where the birds come in to attack the whole town starting with that restaurant on to the gas station and then the school building.  It was actually a very charming little village.  I had my oysters there before the movie got off the story board.

It was very odd at times growing up in places that you saw in movies and television all of the time.  But that is another story for another time.
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Posted: Jul 31, 2020 - 8:34pm

 Steely_D wrote:


 kurtster wrote:

If I had an asymptomatic positive or an early positive, I'd start out on it.  The hydro, zinc, zithro cocktail.  No problem at all.

Do you have something better ?
 
Zithromax is typically only taken for a few days, and this infection seems to take multi weeks to resolve. I'd be wary of any MD/NP/DO/PA that's willing to put you on an unproven antibiotic regimen with that much coverage for no symptoms.

Of course, you're in a special situation since you've got the other medical situations to complicate things.

Still, lots of Zithromax  could easily get you a case of C. difficile and that stuff'll kill you.

 
Zithromax IV was the main course when I got locked up for the 4 days that began on March 15 for suspected CV 19.  I have since forgotten what else.  There might have been some Vanco or doxycycline as well.  It took over 60 hours for those results to come back.  They were also giving me as many of my supplements that they had in the pharmacy including my zinc.  Zithromax was the CCF's first line treatment when all this started.

Yeah, C-diff.  Know all about that.  Vanco and Flagyl for months ...  Both my parents had it periodically and the wife has had bouts as well.  Somehow I have managed to dodge that bullet.  My digestive tract seems to be pretty tough and have the right bacteria going.  I've had long high doses of Levaquin, Cipro, Augmentin, Vanco, Heperin, years on Acyclovir post transplant.  Now every couple of months a round of Bactrim to keep the tightness out of my lungs and the bronchitis at bay. All the chemo years ago. Still I manage to keep my digestion working pretty well.  Knock on my wooden head.

Yeah, I wouldn't think twice about using hydroxy c as part of the first line of attack, with the Zithro, Zinc and I would also highly boost my Vito C intake as well.  Again I have taken a daily dose of zinc and Vito C for decades as an anti viral against the common cold virus of which they are related to this one.
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Posted: Jul 31, 2020 - 6:05pm



 kurtster wrote:

If I had an asymptomatic positive or an early positive, I'd start out on it.  The hydro, zinc, zithro cocktail.  No problem at all.

Do you have something better ?
 
Zithromax is typically only taken for a few days, and this infection seems to take multi weeks to resolve. I'd be wary of any MD/NP/DO/PA that's willing to put you on an unproven antibiotic regimen with that much coverage for no symptoms.

Of course, you're in a special situation since you've got the other medical situations to complicate things.

Still, lots of Zithromax  could easily get you a case of C. difficile and that stuff'll kill you.

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Posted: Jul 31, 2020 - 4:17pm



 kurtster wrote:

If I had an asymptomatic positive or an early positive, I'd start out on it.  The hydro, zinc, zithro cocktail.  No problem at all.

Do you have something better ?

I've been taking zinc along with Vito C daily for roughly 30 years already.  Now you can't find the stuff and when you do it costs 10 times as much as it used to.
 
I have no problem with doctors prescribing medicines for conditions other than the ones on the approved list (well as long as enough supply is available for people who have those conditions). I have a real problem with politicians giving medical advice that is counter to the current evidence and acting like they know anything. Especially if they don't at least temper it with, "Ask your doctor if hydoxychloroquine is right for you."


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Posted: Jul 31, 2020 - 3:27pm



 kurtster wrote:

If I had an asymptomatic positive or an early positive, I'd start out on it.  The hydro, zinc, zithro cocktail.  No problem at all.

Do you have something better ?

I've been taking zinc along with Vito C daily for roughly 30 years already.  Now you can't find the stuff and when you do it costs 10 times as much as it used to.
 
 
Don't forget to wash it all down with some of that Trump kool-aid you're drinking there, pal.

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Posted: Jul 31, 2020 - 1:44pm

ScottFromWyoming wrote:
It's okay, he'll be injecting bleach too. 
Edit: But this did make me wonder about horses and my dogs who drink from a galvanized bucket/trough. Seems okay.

Neutral pH, low ionic content.
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Posted: Jul 31, 2020 - 1:03pm

 Lazy8 wrote:
ScottFromWyoming wrote:
You could drop some pennies into your orange juice and let it sit for a few days...

Nononono!
Rival high school cross country coach served the team Gatorade from a galvanized water cooler and put the whole team in the hospital. Zinc is a micronutrient, you don't need much and too much is nasty.

Pennies also have copper in them and copper poisoning is nasty too. Plus... coins are dirty.
 

cash is unbelievably nasty

working with a cash counter at a bank

gummed up from time to time

just yuck
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Posted: Jul 31, 2020 - 12:52pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
 Lazy8 wrote:
ScottFromWyoming wrote:
You could drop some pennies into your orange juice and let it sit for a few days...

Plus... coins are dirty.
 
It's okay, he'll be injecting bleach too. 

 

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Posted: Jul 31, 2020 - 12:40pm



 Lazy8 wrote:
ScottFromWyoming wrote:
You could drop some pennies into your orange juice and let it sit for a few days...

Plus... coins are dirty.
 

It's okay, he'll be injecting bleach too. 
Edit: But this did make me wonder about horses and my dogs who drink from a galvanized bucket/trough. Seems okay.
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Posted: Jul 31, 2020 - 12:38pm

ScottFromWyoming wrote:
You could drop some pennies into your orange juice and let it sit for a few days...

Nononono!
Rival high school cross country coach served the team Gatorade from a galvanized water cooler and put the whole team in the hospital. Zinc is a micronutrient, you don't need much and too much is nasty.

Pennies also have copper in them and copper poisoning is nasty too. Plus... coins are dirty.
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Posted: Jul 31, 2020 - 12:15pm



 kurtster wrote:

If I had an asymptomatic positive or an early positive, I'd start out on it.  The hydro, zinc, zithro cocktail.  No problem at all.

Do you have something better ?


I've been taking zinc along with Vito C daily for roughly 30 years already.  Now you can't find the stuff and when you do it costs 10 times as much as it used to.
 

Yes.  Hike hills, run, bicycle, swim laps, vacuum clean your own abode, use a push mower to cut the lawn, ....; in addition, reduce alcohol, refined carbohydrate, and prepared food consumption.  

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