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kurtster

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Posted: Oct 18, 2023 - 1:37pm

 steeler wrote:
Jim Jordan’s past as a bomb thrower does not bode well for a tenure as Speaker. And this is not just about blocking Jordan. If Jordan were to ascend to speaker, that would serve to further embolden the Matt Gaetz types, those who are ideologues largely uninterested in governing, focusing instead on getting national attention and raising funds by tossing divisive red meat. This could be a pivotal moment. We can hope. Not holding my breath on that, but we do need to break out of this downward spiral — somehow.
 
I have heard the possibility of bringing in Gingrich.

But let us not forget that the democrats voted unanimously to remove McCarthy after he stuck his neck out for the good of the country to get a bill done to keep the country open for another 45 days (IIRC) and that is what got Gaetz, et al all fired up.

So I also hold the democrats equally responsible for this problem.

Now we got nothing and those 45 days are ticking away with all kinds of shit hitting the fan.
steeler

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Posted: Oct 18, 2023 - 12:55pm

Jim Jordan’s past as a bomb thrower does not bode well for a tenure as Speaker. And this is not just about blocking Jordan. If Jordan were to ascend to speaker, that would serve to further embolden the Matt Gaetz types, those who are ideologues largely uninterested in governing, focusing instead on getting national attention and raising funds by tossing divisive red meat. This could be a pivotal moment. We can hope. Not holding my breath on that, but we do need to break out of this downward spiral — somehow.

Steely_D

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Posted: Oct 17, 2023 - 12:28pm

 rgio wrote:

So what's interesting is that Republicans have literally painted themselves into a corner that many of them are going to get hammered on leading up to next years elections.

Do you vote for a January 6, stolen election, MAGA conspiracy supporter to lead a branch of government... or do you reinforce the fact that even the Republican Party can't agree on anything amongst themselves?

Either way... unless you're from a safe, hard-right district... you should expect a lot of questions that you're not going to like the answers to next summer and fall.


Cynically, if he were to become Speaker, I think the likelihood of an assassination attempt on both the P and VP would become much higher.

Also, if he were in that Speaker role, does anyone expect anything useful for the nation to be done? I just see him as a bully blowhard without any reality to back him up. And, in the long run, doesn’t that mean he’s just gonna waste everyone’s time and - like Trump - let the country fall into more ungoverned chaos (which is, of course, the Democrats’ fault) 



rgio

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Posted: Oct 17, 2023 - 12:22pm

 steeler wrote:

Indeed. Venting.


So what's interesting is that Republicans have literally painted themselves into a corner that many of them are going to get hammered on leading up to next years elections.

Do you vote for a January 6, stolen election, MAGA conspiracy supporter to lead a branch of government... or do you reinforce the fact that even the Republican Party can't agree on anything amongst themselves?

Either way... unless you're from a safe, hard-right district... you should expect a lot of questions that you're not going to like the answers to next summer and fall.
steeler

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Posted: Oct 17, 2023 - 11:58am

 kcar wrote:

Totally agree but I think you're mostly preaching to the choir...


Indeed. Venting.

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Posted: Oct 17, 2023 - 11:56am

 steeler wrote:

Jim Jordan’s fingerprints were all over what transpired on January 6 regarding the attempts to decertify the election results and declare Trump the winner. He should not be elected Speaker.


Totally agree but I think you're mostly preaching to the choir...

steeler

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Posted: Oct 17, 2023 - 9:20am

Jim Jordan’s fingerprints were all over what transpired on January 6 regarding the attempts to decertify the election results and declare Trump the winner. He should not be elected Speaker.
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Sep 22, 2023 - 10:07am

"Propriety" is an ambiguous and ever-shifting concept, which makes it perfect for Republicans looking for a pretext to deny the legitmacy of Democrats. They're desperate to say that Fetterman doesn't belong, and will grab onto any excuse, even something as dumb as an oversized hoodie. But, of course, the real reason Republicans don't want Fetterman around is because they don't think his voters had a right to choose him in the first place.
Steely_D

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Posted: Jul 28, 2023 - 1:01pm

 rgio wrote:

Sen. McConnell says he plans to serve his full term as leader despite questions about his 

Maybe the Senate should cut a deal...Dianne and Mitch retire together?


and then the GOP, to the surprise of no one: 

rgio

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Posted: Jul 28, 2023 - 12:40pm

Sen. McConnell says he plans to serve his full term as leader despite questions about his health

He'll have to "win" majority/minority speaker again after 2024, but his term in office is until 2026.

Given the known falls and the fact he's using a wheelchair when he's not on camera, I'll go on record as guessing he won't make it until the end of 2026.

Maybe the Senate should cut a deal...Dianne and Mitch retire together?


Steely_D

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Posted: Jul 26, 2023 - 9:02pm

 R_P wrote:

You could on occasion go high too.


Cue the good ole "if you could kill baby Hitler, would you do it?" discussion.

Steely_D

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Posted: Jul 26, 2023 - 8:34pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:

We need a mandatory retirement age for the executive, the judicial and legislative branches.



Dunno about age, but competency for damned sure. Even before they let them into office. How about making them take the same civics test that new citizens have to take?
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Posted: Jul 26, 2023 - 6:37pm

You could on occasion go high too.

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Posted: Jul 26, 2023 - 5:26pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:

ditto

This is the guy who denied Obama's SCOTUS appointment for about 11 months in 2016 ("american voters should decide"), then allowed the confirmation of Barrett after the 2020 election had already begun. I am not able to have compassion for evil. It is going to take a long time for my country to recover from McConnell's manipulations. I hope my children can get it back on track.

Steely_D

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Posted: Jul 26, 2023 - 3:57pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:

We need a mandatory retirement age for the executive, the judicial and legislative branches.



Well, we tried "Don't trust anyone over thirty" but that didn't really get any traction.

Red_Dragon

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Posted: Jul 26, 2023 - 3:55pm

 Steely_D wrote:

Well now THAT was a pregnant pause.

Wait - I'm supposed to be compassionate? The party that pushed through and facilitated Trump, trying to thwart healthcare for the nation just to give "ONE...TERM...PRESIDENT" Obama an "L" over the graves of our fellow citizens - then bungled the response to a nationwide pandemic because they couldn't read with the anti-science conspirator crazies - and in fact gave them positions of leadership later to further ruin the nation...and Mitch was at the forefront of it? Sorry. I have a finite amount of compassion and he doesn't get any of it.



ditto
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Jul 26, 2023 - 3:54pm

 rgio wrote:

This is concerning... for obvious health reasons. 

His weekly press update this afternoon (7/26/23)


We need a mandatory retirement age for the executive, the judicial and legislative branches.

Steely_D

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Posted: Jul 26, 2023 - 3:54pm

Well now THAT was a pregnant pause.

Wait - I'm supposed to be compassionate? The party that pushed through and facilitated Trump, trying to thwart healthcare for the nation just to give "our top political priority is to make Obama a ONE...TERM...PRESIDENT" (not infrastructure, job, healthcare, the economy, education, etc - but just to get that new guy out) an L over the graves of our fellow citizens - then bungled the response to a nationwide pandemic because they couldn't deal with the anti-science conspirator crazies - and in fact gave them positions of leadership later to further ruin the nation...and Mitch was at the forefront of it? Sorry. I have a finite amount of compassion and he doesn't get any of it.

rgio

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Posted: Jul 26, 2023 - 1:11pm

 Proclivities wrote:

Apparently he came back several minutes later and resumed the press conference. When asked about the episode he said he was "fine".

Hopefully.

I appreciate this is the exact argument that the Right makes about Biden, but father time is undefeated.  We as a nation need to find a way to get younger, capable leadership... but tribalism isn't likely to support that.

Proclivities

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Posted: Jul 26, 2023 - 1:02pm

 rgio wrote:

This is concerning... for obvious health reasons. 

His weekly press update this afternoon (7/26/23)

Apparently he came back several minutes later and resumed the press conference. When asked about the episode he said he was "fine".
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