So you're saying his own party didn't want HIS wall? If that's the case, stop blaming Biden and the Dems for the immigration problem.
For the record, I'm all for closing the border and legal immigration. Trump ran in 2016 saying he would solve this. He didn't, and now look where we are. Blame Biden all you want, but your boy did almost nothing when he had the chance. 80 some miles of new wall for $15B. Why do you want to give him another 4 years to not deliver?
If it's a money issue, then maybe he shouldn't have given away over $50B in 2018 alone in tax cuts. That would have paid for the wall. But since the wall doesn't vote and it doesn't write checks to his PAC, he prioritized tax cuts for the wealthy over the wall you so dearly desire. He sold you out, but at least you know where his priorities are.
BTW... all of the materials were not scrapped. Texas took 1,300 sections, and others are being used for repairs. Canceling saved $2.6B.
Trump did attempt to negotiate with the dems over an immigration deal including a daca deal in return for limits on immigration and the wall....Ultimately both sides failed to get a deal done, because politics.
Trump had to resort to finding money in other places, like the military budget to fund the wall for openers. Both sides of Congress were opposed to his plans. The only support came from the minority Freedom Caucus. Remember that walls are racist ? Biden inherited ton's of fence material to keep the wall being built. Instead, he scrapped it.
What was one of the first things Biden did when taking office ? Reversed all of Trump's immigration policies, which were working just fine. That is how we got to where we are today.
So you're saying his own party didn't want HIS wall? If that's the case, stop blaming Biden and the Dems for the immigration problem.
For the record, I'm all for closing the border and legal immigration. Trump ran in 2016 saying he would solve this. He didn't, and now look where we are. Blame Biden all you want, but your boy did almost nothing when he had the chance. 80 some miles of new wall for $15B. Why do you want to give him another 4 years to not deliver?
If it's a money issue, then maybe he shouldn't have given away over $50B in 2018 alone in tax cuts. That would have paid for the wall. But since the wall doesn't vote and it doesn't write checks to his PAC, he prioritized tax cuts for the wealthy over the wall you so dearly desire. He sold you out, but at least you know where his priorities are.
BTW... all of the materials were not scrapped. Texas took 1,300 sections, and others are being used for repairs. Canceling saved $2.6B.
How much are we talking about for the flights? What's the total cost? You always wanna throw crazy shit into the mix. How about the Trump 6-month extension of Secret Service protection for his kids that cost the taxpayers nearly $2M? Oh yeah, Meadows and Mnuchin got an extension too. You know Mnuchin...he's Jared's partner in getting $2B from the Saudis just after leaving office. Trump's a billionaire, isn't he? Why was there a special order to make you pay to protect his kids?
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... Oh yeah...Before you get all "it's standard practice, look at Obama's kids" on me... it's standard for minor and college-aged kids, not adults. And definitely, not adults that live in $24M homes on islands with their own police force of 13 for the 40 houses surrounding the golf course.
Now go get that spendthrift Pete!!!
The whataboutism. OMG, the horror !
You act like Pete is flying to Monaco weekly...it's less than 20 trips with staff in tow. First, you complain he travels too much, then you complain he doesn't show up (see: Ohio trail derailment).
Jeezuz man, you're headed to a nervous breakdown.
I have no idea what you're smoking. I just posted links about Buttigieg because someone else brought him up, as in an oh by the way thing. The lawsuit is breaking news. I never said he flies too much. Anywhere. Show me.
I did complain about Biden not going to New Palestine. If I said anything about the train wreck and Mayor Pete it was at the most what took him so long. Of course I could be wrong about that and we will find out quick enough when someone digs up a quote of mine.
Oh and since we're discussing mayor Pete, how about his 2 month paternity leave when the world's supply chain was falling apart ?
Republicans fault secretary for being AWOL during shipping crisis, infrastructure talks
And while you are at it ...
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I assumed your answer would focus on anything besides facts, because you have none.
Please tell me what is factually wrong with my reply. kurtster wrote:
I saw it and it is a serious misrepresentation of the chain of events as it ignores all the opposition from both sides of the aisle to implement Trump's border policies. So I gave it no credence and no reply until you bring it up again thinking that Christie has it all right and you can use it as a republican calling out Trump.
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Trump had to resort to finding money in other places, like the military budget to fund the wall for openers. Both sides of Congress were opposed to his plans. The only support came from the minority Freedom Caucus. Remember that walls are racist ? Biden inherited ton's of fence material to keep the wall being built. Instead, he scrapped it.
What was one of the first things Biden did when taking office ? Reversed all of Trump's immigration policies, which were working just fine. That is how we got to where we are today.
How much are we talking about for the flights? What's the total cost?
You always wanna throw crazy shit into the mix. How about the Trump 6-month extension of Secret Service protection for his kids that cost the taxpayers nearly $2M? Oh yeah, Meadows and Mnuchin got an extension too. You know Mnuchin...he's Jared's partner in getting $2B from the Saudis just after leaving office. Trump's a billionaire, isn't he? Why was there a special order to make you pay to protect his kids?
You act like Pete is flying to Monaco weekly...it's less than 20 trips with staff in tow. First, you complain he travels too much, then you complain he doesn't show up (see: Ohio trail derailment).
Oh yeah...Before you get all "it's standard practice, look at Obama's kids" on me... it's standard for minor and college-aged kids, not adults. And definitely, not adults that live in $24M homes on islands with their own police force of 13 for the 40 houses surrounding the golf course.
How much are we talking about for the flights? What's the total cost?
You always wanna throw crazy shit into the mix. How about the Trump 6-month extension of Secret Service protection for his kids that cost the taxpayers nearly $2M? Oh yeah, Meadows and Mnuchin got an extension too. You know Mnuchin...he's Jared's partner in getting $2B from the Saudis just after leaving office. Trump's a billionaire, isn't he? Why was there a special order to make you pay to protect his kids?
You act like Pete is flying to Monaco weekly...it's less than 20 trips with staff in tow. First, you complain he travels too much, then you complain he doesn't show up (see: Ohio trail derailment).
Oh yeah...Before you get all "it's standard practice, look at Obama's kids" on me... it's standard for minor and college-aged kids, not adults. And definitely, not adults that live in $24M homes on islands with their own police force of 13 for the 40 houses surrounding the golf course.
Now go get that spendthrift Pete!!!
Trump supporters are so opposed to Biden and all that he represents that they are willing to overlook Trump's faults in that pursuit. Trump haters are so opposed to Trump that they are willing to overlook all of Biden's faults in that pursuit. Stuff about Buttigigeg
Not an answer. Would you vote for Trump or Pete? You posit that Trump supporters are so opposed to Biden - but what if it's not that matchup? Would you still support twice-impeached "fine people on both sides" Jan 6 "will be WILD" Trump?
I didn't see a question being asked other than, "then what ?" and then you answered it yourself so I took it as rhetorical. My bad.
So now you ask a new question. I would vote for Trump over Mayor Pete, who thinks that roads and bridges are racist. Without hesitation.
I am not opposed to someone on "my side" rising up to be a strong and viable alternative to Trump. Don't see one anywhere though.
On my watch / wish list are Ramaswamy, Scott and Suarez. I know, I know ... how could a racist even consider anyone of these "people of color" from the racist white supremacist non diverse GOP ? Gosh, it's a toughy IKR ?
Trump supporters are so opposed to Biden and all that he represents that they are willing to overlook Trump's faults in that pursuit.
Trump haters are so opposed to Trump that they are willing to overlook all of Biden's faults in that pursuit.
Stuff about Buttigigeg
Not an answer, but talking past the question.
Would you vote for Trump or Pete? You posit that Trump supporters are so opposed to Biden - but what if it's not that matchup?
Would you still support twice-impeached "fine people on both sides" Jan 6 "will be WILD" Trump?
Trump supporters are so opposed to Biden and all that he represents that they are willing to overlook Trump's faults in that pursuit. Conversely Trump haters are so opposed to Trump that they are willing to overlook all of Biden's faults in that pursuit. Hence an intractable impasse.
So if, as some have posed, there's a young military veteran, politically experienced and well-spoken Dem (not Kamala) waiting in the wings to run against Trump, then what? Buttigieg vs Trump - FIGHT!
The inspector general that oversees the Transportation Department is auditing Pete Buttigieg’s use of government planes since becoming Transportation secretary — a move Buttigieg says he welcomes to help blunt what he called “misleading narratives” from conservatives about whether he abuses them.
“Glad this will be reviewed independently so misleading narratives can be put to rest,” Buttigieg tweeted.
Americans for Public Trust, according to the federal lawsuit, filed three information requests in the past eight months asking how often Buttigieg and colleagues used his agency’s government-managed jets and how much taxpayer money was spent on those private flights. The group told Fox News its requests for the records were repeatedly delayed.
"Pete Buttigieg abused taxpayer dollars by using a private jet to fly domestically and internationally," said Caitlin Sutherland, executive director of APT. "Buttigieg’s FAA has stonewalled and refused to adhere to the law for releasing public records, so we’re filing suit on behalf of all Americans who deserve to know how their money is being spent by this administration.”
APT’s lawsuit filing said more than 100 days have passed since the FAA acknowledged the group’s requests, violating the Freedom of Information Act. Federal agencies, according to FOIA, must provide requested documents within 20 to 30 working days.
Yeah, ignore everything else I said answering you and fixate on this.
Uh huh ...
I assumed your answer would focus on anything besides facts, because you have none.
Being a RINO has nothing to do with politics; it's anyone who disagrees with the leader. You're not a member of a political party Kurt...it's a cult.
Trump had 2 years of control over the house, the senate, and the oval office. He did NOTHING to stop immigration, other than sign a few orders that can be canceled by the next guy in the chair. NOTHING. Blame everyone else, because that's what he does. The deep state, Soros, illegal immigrants, Antifa....none of them could have stopped him from building the wall during 2017 and 2018. He failed.
Funny how the oppo has to resort to using long discredited rino's to support a POV that appears to come from within the party. It doesn't. It is self serving.
So a guy who campaigned for Bush I in 1992 is a Rino, because he attacks the record (of failure) for a guy who was a registered Democrat until 2008 and gave money to Hillary Clinton during her runs for Senate. Long discredited? He prepared Trump for the 2020 debates. What did he do that discredited himself? Do tell.
Yeah, ignore everything else I said answering you and fixate on this.
Funny how the oppo has to resort to using long discredited rino's to support a POV that appears to come from within the party. It doesn't. It is self serving.
So a guy who campaigned for Bush I in 1992 is a Rino, because he attacks the record (of failure) for a guy who was a registered Democrat until 2008 and gave money to Hillary Clinton during her runs for Senate.
Long discredited? He prepared Trump for the 2020 debates. What did he do that discredited himself? Do tell.
He has the border wide open; there will be 10 million new illegal arrivals in the country by the end of his first term.
You ignored it 2 days ago... but since you're so focused on the border... Chris Christie says that Trump is the one to blame for the border remaining porous. He says if Trump would have done what he promised, Biden couldn't have screwed it up. How can you support someone who failed when they had a chance before and put us in this situation?
I saw it and it is a serious misrepresentation of the chain of events as it ignores all the opposition from both sides of the aisle to implement Trump's border policies. So I gave it no credence and no reply until you bring it up again thinking that Christie has it all right and you can use it as a republican calling out Trump. Funny how the oppo has to resort to using long discredited rino's to support a POV that appears to come from within the party. It doesn't. It is self serving.
Trump had to resort to finding money in other places, like the military budget to fund the wall for openers. Both sides of Congress were opposed to his plans. The only support came from the minority Freedom Caucus. Remember that walls are racist ? Biden inherited ton's of fence material to keep the wall being built. Instead, he scrapped it.
What was one of the first things Biden did when taking office ? Reversed all of Trump's immigration policies, which were working just fine. That is how we got to where we are today.
And why are all the Sanctuary Cities bitching so much when all the people they embraced actually show up and take them up on their offers ? We've had 5 million new arrivals since Biden took office. They have to go somewhere and that they are. Now it's NIMBY. So much for virtue signaling. Can't walk the talk when you get what you ask for.
Trump supporters are so opposed to Biden and all that he represents that they are willing to overlook Trump's faults in that pursuit.
Conversely
Trump haters are so opposed to Trump that they are willing to overlook all of Biden's faults in that pursuit.
Hence an intractable impasse.
Well, isn't that special... you lumped in all of Trump's debacles (incitement of insurrection, failed COVID response, paying off porn stars, retaining top secret documents, connecting release of aid to asking a foreign government to look into the background of a political rival's family... et all) together as "faults". And I'm guessing that... in your world... Trump's "box of faults" is pretty much equal to Biden's "box of faults"? Pretty much the same right?
I think you also have a myopic view of "so called" Biden supporters of which I'm sure you count me as one. I can only speak for myself, but I don't have some great love of "Biden" per se, but I'm driven by the fact that America cannot weather another 4 years of Trump. So, if my choice is Trump vs Biden or Trump vs (Anyone). I am going to choose/support the right side of the ledger. Every time.
He has the border wide open; there will be 10 million new illegal arrivals in the country by the end of his first term.
You ignored it 2 days ago... but since you're so focused on the border...
Chris Christie says that Trump is the one to blame for the border remaining porous. He says if Trump would have done what he promised, Biden couldn't have screwed it up. How can you support someone who failed when they had a chance before and put us in this situation?
