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Posted: Mar 30, 2016 - 9:34am

 Red_Dragon wrote:

 

Will he set up a third party candidacy? It's hard to get on the ballot that late — but if the Libertarians or some other perennial group of also-rans wants to adopt him, he can be their candidate.


David Gerrold



 
Not only is that condescending, but shows a shocking ignorance of the Libertarian party and all they stand for to think that would even be a consideration.  Wow.  And they wonder why there are so many voters fed up with the arrogant establishment.{#Rolleyes}


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Posted: Mar 30, 2016 - 9:23am

So Trump has withdrawn his pledge not to run as a third-party candidate.

But there's more to this.

One of his top aides quit the campaign, very disillusioned, and wrote a long rant, reprinted elsewhere on Facebook, about Trump's incompetency.

What she said was very revealing — that Trump never expected to do better than 10% or 12%. He was in it for the publicity.

At the beginning, he didn't to be president, he just wanted to play in the big game for awhile. That he has done so well ... now, he's playing for the gold ring.

And now that the republican leadership is openly plotting to keep him from the nomination, either he gets enough voters to win the nomination on the first ballot — or he'll walk away as soon as it becomes obvious that he won't have the 1237. He'll do it before the convention, before he suffers the humiliation of losing the nomination.

Will he set up a third party candidacy? It's hard to get on the ballot that late — but if the Libertarians or some other perennial group of also-rans wants to adopt him, he can be their candidate.

However this plays out, Trump has very effectively broken the republican nominating process. Even without his participation, the process would have been a circus of horrors — but Trump turned it into a reality-show train wreck.

The reason why Trump has done so well in the primaries is precisely because he's Pennywise the Clown. You know how you slow down when you drive past an auto accident, looking to see if there's blood on the highway...? Yeah, it's that kind of morbid fascination.

Trump's singular skill, no matter what arena he's in, is to suck the air out of the room with his boorishness — he pulls the attention away from everyone else by his antics. So the media gave him all this insane attention and ... there's a thing you learn in first year Film School. Whoever gets the most camera time, that's the hero of the picture.

Trump effectively stole the spotlight. A year ago, the pundits were saying it was Jeb's to lose — ignoring the fact that the Bush name is poison. It was always obvious that Cruz and Christie and Jindal and Rubio were going to make a run — but when the clown car loaded up with Carson and Fiorina, Santorum and Kasich as well, and then Walker and Perry and Pataki and Graham, it became impossible for anyone to get traction because no one except Trump was getting any serious air time.

Trump is a product of the irresponsible behavior of the media. Where once he would have been dismissed as an irrelevant sideshow, he's now a reality show superstar — and when the news media started pursuing ratings instead of actual news, this clusterfuck was inevitable. There's a saying in TV news. "If it bleeds, it leads." Well, the republicans have been bleeding for a year — thanks to the orange oompa-loompa — and the result has been a near-total destruction of the nominating process. Even without Trump, it would have been a disastrous year for the party, but with Trump bullying everyone who got in his way, steamrolling through the primaries like an elephant in musk, we have all been made witness to what happens to a political system when it has been deliberately subverted.

The subversion of the GOP began with the John Birch Society, funded by the Koch brothers' sire. What is happening this year has been inevitable — but there's a certain schadenfreude in seeing Trump steal their whole ball game.

The Tea Party has given birth to the Trump Party and whatever happens this year, the Trump movement is not going to evaporate. Trump might try again in four years. Or the Trump movement will evolve into its next horrific iteration. It's impossible to predict.

But one thing is certain, Trump will do whatever feeds Trump's ego. And that means that no matter what happens, we will not see the end of him until he finally relocates to Trump Graveyard.

David Gerrold


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Posted: Mar 30, 2016 - 8:56am

 Red_Dragon wrote: 
If you paid close attention to repub politics you would know that this does not mean what you are trying to make it mean with the way you worded your link.

Are you aware of the pledge that all 17 of the original repub candidates signed way back when and why ?
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Posted: Mar 30, 2016 - 8:33am

 


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Posted: Mar 30, 2016 - 4:58am

His word means nothing.
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Posted: Mar 30, 2016 - 3:55am

Trump: No One Has Ever Been 'Slandered' More Than Me! {#Boohoo}
(...) Trump said that he has several plans to go after ISIS but won’t reveal them in order to protect “the element of surprise.” However, he did reveal that under a Trump presidency the U.S. would “take the oil” in Libya and “make the rules” in the Geneva Convention “a lot tougher,” alleging that ISIS terrorists “are laughing at us” because the U.S. won’t torture.

He went on to hail the NYPD’s since-abandoned Muslim spying program as “the best in the world,” despite the fact that the program, according to the Associated Press, “never generated a lead or triggered a terrorism investigation.”


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Posted: Mar 30, 2016 - 2:31am

 Steely_D wrote:

Swing and a miss. He's done many many things - except pander to armchair quarterbacks.

 
Oh I don't know I bet he has brought his handicap way down since being President, he has continued the Bush legacy quite well. Practice makes perfect.




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Posted: Mar 29, 2016 - 7:40pm

 porphyrius wrote:

Casual observation of Obama's presidency sure makes you think he liked the title, but not the job.

 
Swing and a miss. He's done many many things - except pander to armchair quarterbacks.


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Posted: Mar 29, 2016 - 3:03pm

 kurtster wrote:
 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

Ok.  Not going to dispute this.  Going to make note of it.

FWIW, not to start a counter to this, but only to mention that I read a piece on Obama back during the 2008 campaign where he had approached his candidacy the same way.  He thought that he had no chance in hell and his candidate persona was just that and not who he really was.  One day he woke up and found out he was going to win and wasn't quite sure if he wanted the job because he would be forced to live out that persona full time for at least the next 4 years.

If true, and if the linked story above is true, Trump and Obama share one characteristic.  They are only in it for the hunt.  Winning is a letdown not an exciting moment with a reward for working so hard.  Winning can create boredom.

Just an observation and nothing more.

 
I don't doubt it. Actually, I think any rational person would dismiss their own chances of actually winning, if you asked them when they first started testing the waters...
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Posted: Mar 29, 2016 - 3:02pm

Women for Trump: Supporters stand firm despite outbursts


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Posted: Mar 29, 2016 - 2:57pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

Ok.  Not going to dispute this.  Going to make note of it.

FWIW, not to start a counter to this, but only to mention that I read a piece on Obama back during the 2008 campaign where he had approached his candidacy the same way.  He thought that he had no chance in hell and his candidate persona was just that and not who he really was.  One day he woke up and found out he was going to win and wasn't quite sure if he wanted the job because he would be forced to live out that persona full time for at least the next 4 years.

If true, and if the linked story above is true, Trump and Obama share one characteristic.  They are only in it for the hunt.  Winning is a letdown not an exciting moment with a reward for working so hard.  Winning can create boredom.

Just an observation and nothing more.
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Posted: Mar 29, 2016 - 2:52pm

One Weird Trick to Lose the 2016 Election: Alienate Women
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Posted: Mar 29, 2016 - 2:50pm

 rotekz wrote:
Yes Richard. 

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Posted: Mar 29, 2016 - 2:26pm

 R_P wrote:

A person can get harmed (in various ways) without showing pain or a reaction.

 
Yes Richard.
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