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Posted: May 23, 2016 - 6:36pm

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It does make you wonder if democracy is such a good idea. Why should everyone have the right to an opinion if it's uneducated?
By making America a republic, it was an attempt to bypass that sort of issue. I'm sure they were thinking of the intelligent but undereducated farmer, or whatever, but these days it's the misinformed web surfer.
It's looking more lately that America is basically an oligarchy, too.
So the question is inevitable: is the USA done as an experiment?
 
Why blame the people? They have very little say in the actual policies (whether in commerce, war, civil rights, etc.) unless they become a menace. They merely approve a representative based on their P.R. If the representative then does an about face while in office...

The assumption is that the members of an elite of a republic that do the governing are at least somewhat rational people and not entirely selfish. However:
The man who is possessed of wealth, who lolls on his sofa or rolls in his carriage, cannot judge the wants or feelings of the day-laborer. The government we mean to erect is intended to last for ages. The landed interest, at present, is prevalent; but in process of time, when we approximate to the states and kingdoms of Europe, — when the number of landholders shall be comparatively small, through the various means of trade and manufactures, will not the landed interest be overbalanced in future elections, and unless wisely provided against, what will become of your government? In England, at this day, if elections were open to all classes of people, the property of landed proprietors would be insecure. An agrarian law would soon take place. If these observations be just, our government ought to secure the permanent interests of the country against innovation. Landholders ought to have a share in the government, to support these invaluable interests, and to balance and check the other. They ought to be so constituted as to protect the minority of the opulent against the majority. The senate, therefore, ought to be this body; and to answer these purposes, they ought to have permanency and stability.
You have a big problem when a lot of people don't get their fair share (i.e. institutionalized inequality) while others make out like bandits.
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Posted: May 23, 2016 - 5:59pm

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You have to wonder what it'll take for voters to learn about candidates before casting their votes. 

1. Terrorist attacks in America and the death of thousands of Americans thanks to a White House that pretended Al Qaeda didn't exist? Apparently not.

2. A needless war we got suckered into thanks to exaggerated and fabricated intelligence, the stupidity of our president and the neocons' fixation on removing Saddam?...Naaah.

3.  A near-meltdown of our economy due to almost no scrutiny of home loan applications, the over-rating of bundled mortgages, and the failure of the government to rein in careless investment practices of institutions too big to fail? Ummm...what?

Gosh, reading is hard. Let's just get a 24/7 narcissistic blowhard from TV to be king! Things'll be fine! Donald says so!  

 
It does make you wonder if democracy is such a good idea. Why should everyone have the right to an opinion if it's uneducated? Who would argue FOR having people cast a ballot that might lead to a worse nation? There's a benefit to that?

By making America a republic, it was an attempt to bypass that sort of issue. I'm sure they were thinking of the intelligent but undereducated farmer, or whatever, but these days it's the misinformed web surfer.
It's looking more lately that America is basically an oligarchy, too.
So the question is inevitable: is the USA done as an experiment? 


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Posted: May 23, 2016 - 5:32pm

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Don't misunderestimate stoopid. See 2004.

 
You have to wonder what it'll take for voters to learn about candidates before casting their votes. 

1. Terrorist attacks in America and the death of thousands of Americans thanks to a White House that pretended Al Qaeda didn't exist? Apparently not.

2. A needless war we got suckered into thanks to exaggerated and fabricated intelligence, the stupidity of our president and the neocons' fixation on removing Saddam?...Naaah.

3.  A near-meltdown of our economy due to almost no scrutiny of home loan applications, the over-rating of bundled mortgages, and the failure of the government to rein in careless investment practices of institutions too big to fail? Ummm...what?

Gosh, reading is hard. Let's just get a 24/7 narcissistic blowhard from TV to be king! Things'll be fine! Donald says so!  
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Posted: May 23, 2016 - 5:08pm

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Don't misunderestimate stoopid. See 2004.
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Posted: May 23, 2016 - 4:50pm

Pat Bagley


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Posted: May 23, 2016 - 4:40pm

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You know you're lower than low when you get snubbed by North Korea.
 
Well, he's not President, so it doesn't make sense to meet up yet.

I just got back from a trip to Europe and while there every European - and every American - would laugh incredulously and wonder what was up with Trump getting the nomination.
It's made America a laughingstock, whether his supporters want to accept it or not. 
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Posted: May 23, 2016 - 4:26pm

You know you're lower than low when you get snubbed by North Korea.
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Posted: May 23, 2016 - 3:01pm

Flies, manure...
Trump 'Christian Policy' Adviser Is A 'Prophet' Who Stopped A Tsunami, Says AIDS Is Result Of 'Unnatural Sex'
(...) True to the spirit of Trump, Amedia has at least one shady business deal in his past. In 2001, he was granted immunity to testify that he had helped to bribe a prosecutor to drop a case against a car-dealer friend in Ohio who had allegedly been rolling back car odometers. (...)
The Trumpster knows the best people...
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Posted: May 23, 2016 - 1:25pm



Powerful. This is just the start. Trump is going to obliterate the Clinton legacy. 


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Posted: May 23, 2016 - 9:33am

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The topic is Trump. 

 
Yes it is.  I back Trump and my character has been directly called out by your post.  I then think it fair to ask who you support as a reference towards your views of those of us who support Trump.  

I have no delusions of Trump being the perfect candidate or anyone else for that matter.  There is no perfect candidate for anyone.  We all must find the person with the most views that align with their own, overlooking other views that may not be appealing, but are not deal breakers.  

Sure, there are other candidates besides Bernie, Hillary and Donald.  But can they get elected, let alone carry a state ?  That is an important consideration in my present choice.  Support Gary Johnson ?  Fine with me.  I like him, too.  But he can't get elected in the present climate.  Then there is the problem with a 3rd party sending the election to the House of Representatives to elect a POTUS if no one wins the Electoral College.  And The House can pick anyone they choose.  Doesn't even have to be someone that ran for the office.

So it goes, if not Trump, then who for you ?  Or are you not voting ?  Is it fair to subject supporters of one candidate to such harshness without being willing to subject your own choice for similar review ?  I think not.

 


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Posted: May 23, 2016 - 8:42am


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Posted: May 23, 2016 - 8:36am

Donald Trump Refuses to Reveal His Tax Rate: 'It's None of Your Business'


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Posted: May 23, 2016 - 7:32am

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And you are a proud backer of who ????

 
The topic is Trump. 
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Posted: May 23, 2016 - 5:20am

 Steely_D wrote:

No one - no one - should be proud of backing Trump.

 
And you are a proud backer of who ????
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Posted: May 23, 2016 - 3:29am

 Kaw wrote:

I cant remember this much trolling in one picture...

 

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Posted: May 23, 2016 - 2:00am

 rotekz wrote:


 
I cant remember this much trolling in one picture...
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Posted: May 23, 2016 - 1:16am

FOR FIRST TIME EVER=> Donald Trump Leads Crooked Hillary in Average of All National Polls




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