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Posted: Feb 22, 2016 - 11:51am

kurtster wrote:

I could live with that, too.

But ... since its about everything but the truth ... what if it was Ginsberg who passed ? Would he have stayed away from that funeral ?

I believe that the answer to that is obvious.

So then say Ginsberg passes in the next 6 months. Obama would have to stay away from her funeral to be consistent.

I dunno, sometimes its better to just do your damn job and shut up about it. It can make things go much more smoothly.

That is a good point and goes to what I was saying about this being a logistical misstep imo.

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Posted: Feb 22, 2016 - 11:49am
ScottFromWyoming wrote: Do you not agree that you would find something to complain about had he actually gone? Sat on the bride's side when he really only knew Antonin. Kept saying Ah-Men half a beat after the priest said A-men Wore black suit that totally clashed with Mrs. Scalia's dress

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Posted: Feb 22, 2016 - 11:49am
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Posted: Feb 22, 2016 - 11:48am

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Maybe it is just the Sagittarius zero tolerance for bullshit coming out in me, but I actually don't care about that. Just be honest, I would cheer from the mountain top had Earnest said well Obama would rather play golf because Scalia was a dick. Again that is the big appeal with Trump, I think people are thirsting for "keeping it 100". I know I am. This does NOT mean I am voting for Trump, but everyone is so perplexed of how this bozo can get so much support, well there it is.

I could live with that, too.

But ... since its about everything but the truth ... what if it was Ginsberg who passed ? Would he have stayed away from that funeral ?

I believe that the answer to that is obvious.

So then say Ginsberg passes in the next 6 months. Obama would have to stay away from her funeral to be consistent.

I dunno, sometimes its better to just do your damn job and shut up about it. It can make things go much more smoothly.

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Posted: Feb 22, 2016 - 11:45am

ScottFromWyoming wrote:

Do you not agree that you would find something to complain about had he actually gone?

Sat on the bride's side when he really only knew Antonin.
Kept saying Ah-Men half a beat after the priest said A-men
Wore black suit that totally clashed with Mrs. Scalia's dress

Yes but those types of protestations would no doubt come from the hyper partisan usual suspects that independent thinkers have long ignored. All I am saying is Obama has some PR and optic issues that he does not handle very well.

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Posted: Feb 22, 2016 - 11:42am
ScottFromWyoming wrote: Do you not agree that you would find something to complain about had he actually gone? Sat on the bride's side when he really only knew Antonin. Kept saying Ah-Men half a beat after the priest said A-men Wore black suit that totally clashed with Mrs. Scalia's dress

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Posted: Feb 22, 2016 - 11:41am
ScottFromWyoming wrote: Do you not agree that you would find something to complain about had he actually gone? Sat on the bride's side when he really only knew Antonin. Kept saying Ah-Men half a beat after the priest said A-men Wore black suit that totally clashed with Mrs. Scalia's dress True.

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Posted: Feb 22, 2016 - 11:31am

kurtster wrote:

So its not the prez's job to attend the funeral of a sitting SCOTUS justice ?

The job no longer has traditional ceremonial duties ? OK then.

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Posted: Feb 22, 2016 - 11:27am

kurtster wrote:

So its not the prez's job to attend the funeral of a sitting SCOTUS justice ?

The job no longer has traditional ceremonial duties ? OK then.

Do you not agree that you would find something to complain about had he actually gone?

Sat on the bride's side when he really only knew Antonin.
Kept saying Ah-Men half a beat after the priest said A-men
Wore black suit that totally clashed with Mrs. Scalia's dress

kurtster

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Posted: Feb 22, 2016 - 11:22am
So its not the prez's job to attend the funeral of a sitting SCOTUS justice ? The job no longer has traditional ceremonial duties ? OK then.

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Posted: Feb 22, 2016 - 10:57am

ScottFromWyoming wrote:

It's a question he shouldn't have to avoid. That's the point.

"I'll be attending Friday's service at the Courthouse; VP Biden will attend the funeral at the church"
"Why, are you going golfing?"

Dickish. I think that's the word used first, and yes it was.

Pick something of significance to get worked up about, like Guantanamo or WMDs, and it's worth discussing. Golf and a funeral? It's like people are just searching for something to bitch about, still.

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Posted: Feb 22, 2016 - 10:37am
sirdroseph wrote: it is the bullshit dog and pony show of avoiding the question It's a question he shouldn't have to avoid. That's the point. "I'll be attending Friday's service at the Courthouse; VP Biden will attend the funeral at the church" "Why, are you going golfing?" Dickish. I think that's the word used first, and yes it was.

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Posted: Feb 22, 2016 - 10:27am

ScottFromWyoming wrote:

sirdroseph wrote:

And to be perfectly clear, I have no problem with him playing golf this past weekend. It just makes the question not seem so outrageous after all is my point and speaks to the Administration's playing games with optics instead of just manning up and being honest. Say that you are paying your respects Friday and will be golfing this weekend or if you have to go the trouble of this charade of carrying a big pile of briefs for a photo op stating you will be studying Scalia's cases to honor him or maybe just attend the funeral because it is all about optics and PR anyway.

Okay, UNCLE, it's a perfectly valid not asshole-ish question. Jesus. I think it's about as relevant as "Mr. President, do you plan to eat corn today?" because who cares? He's not going; the reason why doesn't have to be "I have something better to do."

I honestly thought, immediately, of two good reasons: 1: it's still a family funeral. If he did show up, you and others would be right to at least question "what the hell was he even doing there?" They didn't get along. Him crashing the funeral would have been seen as crass by {pick'em} et al so {deleted deleted}.

At least Biden was in the senate and voted to confirm, so he's got some standing there.

and 2: The viewing at the Supreme Court, the public memorial... who would go to that? Nobody. By choosing to attend that instead, the president gave that enough gravitas that it might not have been a really sad little event.

My issue is not whether he attended the funeral or not; it is the bullshit dog and pony show of avoiding the question knowing full well that he did plan on going golfing. They didn't want to answer the question because of the bad optics of this so they instead put out some story of Obama spending the weekend perusing Scalia case files, did a photo op with him carrying a bunch of briefs and then went golfing as planned. Just attend the damn funeral and then go golfing or don't attend and give an honest answer why. This is yet another reason why Trump is doing so well, people are just tired of bullshit so much so that they are willing to give their vote to someone who obviously has no idea what he is talking about half the time.

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Posted: Feb 22, 2016 - 10:17am

sirdroseph wrote:

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Posted: Feb 22, 2016 - 9:22am

sirdroseph wrote:

Looks like you were right, he didn't play after all:

And to be perfectly clear, I have no problem with him playing golf this past weekend. It just makes the question not seem so outrageous after all is my point and speaks to the Administration's playing games with optics instead of just manning up and being honest. Say that you are paying your respects Friday and will be golfing this weekend or if you have to go the trouble of this charade of carrying a big pile of briefs for a photo op stating you will be studying Scalia's cases to honor him or maybe just attend the funeral because it is all about optics and PR anyway.

How about it might actually be the job of the prez to show up at these things ? Could it be as simple as that ? Obama just doesn't want to do his job ? The office of POTUS is bigger than the individual occupying it. That is unless you see yourself as King ...

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Posted: Feb 22, 2016 - 9:19am

sirdroseph wrote:

Looks like you were right, he didn't play after all:

And to be perfectly clear, I have no problem with him playing golf this past weekend. It just makes the question not seem so outrageous after all is my point and speaks to the Administration's playing games with optics instead of just manning up and being honest. Say that you are paying your respects Friday and will be golfing this weekend or if you have to go the trouble of this charade of carrying a big pile of briefs for a photo op stating you will be studying Scalia's cases to honor him or maybe just attend the funeral because it is all about optics and PR anyway.

I'm resisting the obvious optics in deference to my southern sense of decorum, but you get the picture...

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Posted: Feb 22, 2016 - 8:40am

ScottFromWyoming wrote:

No, that validates the question. Ignoring it completely is an okay option.

Looks like you were right, he didn't play after all:

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Posted: Feb 18, 2016 - 8:51pm
islander wrote: kurtster wrote: quack, quack, quack Sounds like a duck. It is !!

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Posted: Feb 18, 2016 - 8:30pm
kurtster wrote: quack, quack, quack Sounds like a duck.

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Posted: Feb 18, 2016 - 8:24pm

ScottFromWyoming wrote:

They've said it doesn't matter who he appoints. Could be a Scalia clone and they'd still block it. Why would they do that? Why would they announce it flat-out that they're going to block anyone he appoints, and not just say "we'll see who he appoints and then decide like responsible adults."

Because Mitch McConnell is an assh@le ?

No worries. There are clear signs that the repubs will give in. In the same way they passed the last omnibus budget, blocking nothing giving Obama Carte Blanche for his last year.

Poseurs is all the repubs are. They are Milli Vanilli. That is why Trump is kicking ass. We are tired of all the lip service, from everyone.

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