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Umberdog

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Posted: Jul 7, 2012 - 9:40pm

Religions had the word "marriage" first. It's a religious thing. The government needs to establish another label for everyone and then let homosexuals have all the special crap that our leaders have given conventional marriage. Separation of Church and state my butt!


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Posted: Jul 7, 2012 - 8:45pm

 glmace wrote:
Really who really gives a sh@t? Let it go, relax.

 
I do. Sorry you don't. But I do. Many of my friends cannot enjoy the benefits of marriage. I'll keep caring until they can. Thanks for understanding.
hippiechick

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Posted: Jul 7, 2012 - 7:40pm

 glmace wrote:


What part of who cares don't you understand? You want to marry sombody of the same sex? Go ahead noone cares let it go. That's all

 
Wow! Friendly guy
glmace

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Posted: Jul 7, 2012 - 7:36pm

 hippiechick wrote:

Say what?

 

What part of who cares don't you understand? You want to marry sombody of the same sex? Go ahead noone cares let it go. That's all
hippiechick

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Posted: Jul 7, 2012 - 7:26pm

 glmace wrote:
Really who really gives a sh@t? Let it go, relax.

 
Say what?
glmace

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Posted: Jul 7, 2012 - 7:15pm

Really who really gives a sh@t? Let it go, relax.
hippiechick

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Posted: Jul 7, 2012 - 7:12pm


NEWTON, Mass. — U.S. Rep. Barney Frank has tied the knot with his longtime partner in a ceremony officiated by Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick.

Frank spokesman Harry Gural says the 72-year-old congressman married 42-year-old Jim Ready in a Saturday evening wedding at the Boston Marriott hotel in Newton. Gural says more than 300 friends, family and colleagues attended.

Frank, a Democrat who is retiring after more than three decades in office, represents the 4th Congressional District in southeastern Massachusetts.

Ready, of Ogunquit, Maine, has a small business doing custom awnings, carpentry, painting, welding and other general handyman services. He's also a photographer.


hippiechick

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Posted: May 15, 2012 - 8:47am


R_P

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Posted: May 10, 2012 - 9:09pm

(...) In a biological sense there are two types of pair bonds: the social pair bond and the sexual pair bond.  The social pair bond is a strong behavioral and psychological relationship between two individuals that is measurably different in physiological and emotional terms from general friendships or other acquaintance relationships. The sexual pair bond is a behavioral and physiological bond between two individuals with a strong sexual attraction component.  In this bond the participants in the sexual pair bond prefer to have sex with each other over other options. In humans, and other mammals, pair bonds are developed via social interactions combined with the biological activity of neurotransmitters and hormones such as oxytocin, vasopressin, dopamine, corticosterone, and others.  

Pair bonds, both social and sexual, in humans are part of complex social networks that emerged as central patterns in human evolution.  Pair bonds can involve sexual relationships (and in a cultural sense, romantic attachments) and are probably involved in what most people experience when they think of romantic love.  We have extensive social pair bonding across genders and age categories, probably more than any other species. We can have social pair bonds with our relatives and our closest friends.  They can be with same-sex individuals or different sex individuals, same-age or different ages. Humans also have sexual pair bonds both heterosexually and homosexually.  Importantly, our sexual pair bonding, like our sexual activity, is not limited to reproduction.

However, pair bonds ≠ marriage.

There is an extensive body of research looking into the history and structure of marriage systems throughout the world, too voluminous to review here. Basically, social scientists and historians agree that marriage (in both secular and religious systems) is best viewed as a social system for legitimizing reproduction and inheritance of property, control of and regulation of sexual activity, and, recently, the culturally sanctioned outcome of romantic “love.”

Marriage is also an important way in which cultures officially recognize and sanction the sexual pair bonds that characterize human beings.  Remember, human sexual pair bonds naturally occur both heterosexually and homosexually. However, in many societies social and political histories have created contexts where heterosexual pair bonds are sanctioned and homosexual pair bonds are not. (...)

ptooey

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Posted: May 10, 2012 - 4:24pm

 JrzyTmata wrote:

Foamy.
Hot lesbians live next door!

 
I kinda feel cheated, 'cause while the lesbian couple who live across the alley from us are awesome people, I wouldn't describe them as "hot".
sirdroseph

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Posted: May 10, 2012 - 4:23pm

 miamizsun wrote:
“Gay marriage equality is a matter of equal rights under the Constitution. Denying gay Americans the same benefits of legal marriage under the law as those enjoyed by straight couples is discrimination, plain and simple. Fairness has to apply to all Americans equally.”

Gary Johnson



 
Thank you, I posted something similar in the election thread from his website. This is old news to Johnson. He is so far ahead in his willingness to do and say what he thinks other than what it takes to get elected than Obama and Romney it isn't even funny.


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Posted: May 10, 2012 - 4:22pm

 ptooey wrote:
A friend posted this on his Facebook wall today.  

 
Talking Squirrel Explains Why Banning Same-Sex Marriage is Wrong  (NSFW language, several flips o' the bird, and multiple counts of sacrilege) 

 
Foamy.
Hot lesbians live next door!
Red_Dragon

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Posted: May 10, 2012 - 4:09pm

 ptooey wrote:
A friend posted this on his Facebook wall today.  

 
Talking Squirrel Explains Why Banning Same-Sex Marriage is Wrong  (NSFW language, several flips o' the bird, and multiple counts of sacrilege) 

 
posted again on FB.


ptooey

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Posted: May 10, 2012 - 4:02pm

A friend posted this on his Facebook wall today.  

 
Talking Squirrel Explains Why Banning Same-Sex Marriage is Wrong  (NSFW language, several flips o' the bird, and multiple counts of sacrilege) 
MrsHobieJoe

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Posted: May 10, 2012 - 3:57pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

 And that wasn't yesterday that he said that.
 



I totally don't understand why people who don't want to go into a gaymarriage themselves see that interposing themselves into someone else's life is acceptable. It isn't like we are forcing you to marry your best friend or something. You can keep your own beliefs and live them yourself, let your next door neighbour do the same thing. So what if they are gay?
miamizsun

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Posted: May 10, 2012 - 3:45pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

 And that wasn't yesterday that he said that.
 
yep, he isn't perfect, but he's light years ahead of mitt and barack
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Posted: May 10, 2012 - 3:37pm

 cc_rider wrote:


 
and politicians make it so
cc_rider

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Posted: May 10, 2012 - 3:03pm

 miamizsun wrote:
"...Fairness has to apply to all Americans equally.”

Unless of course you're wealthy, in which case you get to live by a whole different set of rules.

 


ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: May 10, 2012 - 3:03pm

 miamizsun wrote:
“Gay marriage equality is a matter of equal rights under the Constitution. Denying gay Americans the same benefits of legal marriage under the law as those enjoyed by straight couples is discrimination, plain and simple. Fairness has to apply to all Americans equally.”

Gary Johnson



 
 And that wasn't yesterday that he said that.

miamizsun

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Posted: May 10, 2012 - 3:01pm

“Gay marriage equality is a matter of equal rights under the Constitution. Denying gay Americans the same benefits of legal marriage under the law as those enjoyed by straight couples is discrimination, plain and simple. Fairness has to apply to all Americans equally.”

Gary Johnson


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