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ScottFromWyoming

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Location: Powell
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Posted: Feb 22, 2012 - 1:07pm
Lazy8 wrote: kurtster wrote: Signs posted in the Cleveland Clinic emergency room have 3 languages. English is still first and on top. Next is Arabic, and last at the bottom is Spanish. Outrageous! People should only be sick in English. I'm outraged that you're outraged at a 2-year-old post!

jagdriver

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Posted: Feb 22, 2012 - 12:41pm
sirdroseph wrote: Well whatever, I am preparing for the inevitable and have started Pimsleur Spanish courses. Quite pleased so far! I should be semi-fluent in about 6 months or so. I should be considering how I have had 3 years in high school and one year in college of Spanish to boot! Juan lays llamas Me llama Juan....

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Posted: Feb 22, 2012 - 12:22pm
Well whatever, I am preparing for the inevitable and have started Pimsleur Spanish courses. Quite pleased so far! I should be semi-fluent in about 6 months or so. I should be considering how I have had 3 years in high school and one year in college of Spanish to boot!

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Posted: Feb 22, 2012 - 12:17pm
kurtster wrote: Signs posted in the Cleveland Clinic emergency room have 3 languages. English is still first and on top. Next is Arabic, and last at the bottom is Spanish. Outrageous! People should only be sick in English.

jagdriver

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Posted: Feb 22, 2012 - 12:02pm

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Posted: Jul 15, 2010 - 5:54pm
Manbird wrote: I think - but I'm not sure - that they HAVE to post in something like 9 languages/dialects in certain public buildings in San Francisco. dort chutná lépe neÅ¾ koláÄ .

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Posted: Jul 15, 2010 - 5:50pm
mzpro5 wrote: hey kurt Having worked at the Cleveland Clinic in the mid 80's I'm only surprised Arabic isn't first. Me, too, actually ...

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Posted: Jul 15, 2010 - 5:33pm
kurtster wrote: Signs posted in the Cleveland Clinic emergency room have 3 languages. English is still first and on top. Next is Arabic, and last at the bottom is Spanish. hey kurt Having worked at the Cleveland Clinic in the mid 80's I'm only surprised Arabic isn't first.

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Posted: Jul 15, 2010 - 4:27pm
kurtster wrote: Signs posted in the Cleveland Clinic emergency room have 3 languages. English is still first and on top. Next is Arabic, and last at the bottom is Spanish. I think - but I'm not sure - that they HAVE to post in something like 9 languages/dialects in certain public buildings in San Francisco.

kurtster

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Posted: Jul 15, 2010 - 3:56pm
Signs posted in the Cleveland Clinic emergency room have 3 languages. English is still first and on top. Next is Arabic, and last at the bottom is Spanish.

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Posted: Jul 15, 2010 - 8:28am

duchamp wrote:

....possibly and only possibly in the beginning.

My cousin's son was in the Criminal Justice program and I asked him why he wanted to be a cop. He said he wanted to help people. He later dropped out of the program.

I think that may be pretty common. One problem is, practically the only civilians officers interact with on the job are, well, let's just say they're often not the fine upstanding citizens we aspire to be. Many of those people simply do not WANT to be helped, for whatever reasons. Officers are on the front lines of society's failings, and they are helpless to make systemic changes. They are the band-aids while the patient (us) has cancer.

duchamp

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Posted: Jul 15, 2010 - 8:14am
mzpro5 wrote: Saints and sinners. ....possibly and only possibly in the beginning. My cousin's son was in the Criminal Justice program and I asked him why he wanted to be a cop. He said he wanted to help people. He later dropped out of the program.

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Posted: Jul 15, 2010 - 8:08am
duchamp wrote: I ask myself this question. Just who would be attracted to the job? Saints and sinners.

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Posted: Jul 15, 2010 - 8:07am
rosedraws wrote: I don't know if Police tend to go off the deep end more than the rest of the population, or if we just hear about it more. Probably both. I ask myself this question. Just who would be attracted to the job?

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Posted: Jul 15, 2010 - 7:56am
cc_rider wrote: To Serve And Protect. Right? I don't know if Police tend to go off the deep end more than the rest of the population, or if we just hear about it more. Probably both.

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Posted: Jul 15, 2010 - 7:53am

rosedraws wrote:

I heard a story on NPR about a person getting a traffic ticket (or maybe he was arrested?) because he did not follow a rule told to him by the police officer.

The driver did not speak English.

The court ruled that the driver was guilty only of not speaking English. Had he understood the rule, he would have followed it.

So, it was found that the Police Department has to find a way to deliver rules in the language of the recipient.

I think that is absurd. The cost and complication and wasted time in this? It's gotta be pretty damn irritating to the Police.

I do not understand why English is not our official language, and that it should be required for citizenship and a drivers license. Why is it on the municipality to accommodate all the different languages that might come our way? Why is it not on the individual to learn a unified language of the country? I realize, that we have not claimed English as our unified language, but I can not understand why not.

Locally, a grandmother was pulled out of her car and BEATEN by a county constable who was directing traffic at an elementary school. Witnesses say the constable shouted racial epithets and demanded the woman speak English. The officer reached for his gun when bystanders attempted to assist the woman, who at that point was lying on the ground with her breast exposed. A number of children witnessed the scene as well.

To Serve And Protect. Right?

ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Jul 15, 2010 - 7:15am
prickelpit96 wrote: No! But if you get caught by the police it is no valid excuse not to speak french! You have to stand the consequences in the country you travel to/live in, even if you don't know the language. There is a appropriate saying in German: Unwissenheit schützt vor Strafe nicht. (A lack of knowledge does not prevent punishment) Here, it's "Ignorance is no excuse for the law."

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Posted: Jul 15, 2010 - 6:45am

One of my grandmas moved her from Poland in the early 1900s, and she lived in a neighborhood where everyone spoke Yiddish, and I don't think she really learned to communicate in English until she got a tv set.

When I lived in Detroit there was a large Arab population, and the school district (Southfield actually) had special kindergartens to teach the Arab kids English.

I think the problem is that, geographically, we have outgrown boundaries. People from all sorts of countries live everywhere. Maybe we should have no boundaries, would that solve the problem?

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

prickelpit96

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Posted: Jul 15, 2010 - 6:34am
beamends wrote: That would make sense (they just held the annual Esperanto Conference in the UK) logically. But politically...... not sure it would work. No, ~~sensitive~~ sensible would be to take a widespread language like English. I never would give up my German, but we are used to learn English and so do most of the people in the EU. //edit: Thanks

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Posted: Jul 15, 2010 - 6:32am
mzpro5 wrote: Esperanto maybe? That would make sense (they just held the annual Esperanto Conference in the UK) logically. But politically...... not sure it would work.

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