It's the backing tracks of vocals recorded as notes to make up chords when the band played the volume pots on the mixing desk....so clever. Just does my head in....
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Feb 19, 2021 - 10:57pm
Steely_D wrote:
Proclivities wrote:
Yeah, the "soulless" tag has often been attached to them - or worse - that they were "too white".
Not about you, but weird how some feel the need to have some sort of race topic integrated (see what I did there?) into the discussion. I think it's because it becomes a shorthand.
It's possible to wonder "what would Joplin have done with this?" Someone with more aggression in their delivery - but maybe it's really not possible since I'm imagining that his should be sung in a perfectly kept mid-century styled apartment.
Absolutely knew it. Had to watch my wording so you didn't think I was implying otherwise.
I knew you did but clarity is good. It can be easy to misconstrue stuff in written forums - as we've all seen. True though, Hal David did often write some goofy - or just painful- lyrics; like this tune, nice melody, chords, and arrangement, but badly dated (and sexist) lyrics:
Yeah, the "soulless" tag has often been attached to them - or worse - that they were "too white".
Not about you, but weird how some feel the need to have some sort of race topic integrated (see what I did there?) into the discussion. I think it's because it becomes a shorthand.
It's possible to wonder "what would Joplin have done with this?" Someone with more aggression in their delivery - but maybe it's really not possible since I'm imagining that his should be sung in a perfectly kept mid-century styled apartment.
Yeah - I didn't mean to bring that in as some "hot-button" point of contention or something, but you knew that. It's just something I'd heard said about them over the years. But that practice does become a sort of shorthand far too often though.
Yeah, the "soulless" tag has often been attached to them - or worse - that they were "too white".
Not about you, but weird how some feel the need to have some sort of race topic integrated (see what I did there?) into the discussion. I think it's because it becomes a shorthand.
It's possible to wonder "what would Joplin have done with this?" Someone with more aggression in their delivery - but maybe it's really not possible since I'm imagining that his should be sung in a perfectly kept mid-century styled apartment.
Another Bacharach/David classic - Marilyn McCoo had a beautiful voice - at least a 3-octave range.
The lyricism of Hal David here always blows me away, (âI end each day the way I start out / crying my heart outâ WTF!!!) but McCooâs (and the other 4 Dimensionsâ) soulless delivery frustrates the heck out of me. Appropriate for the times, but in my head I wish for something much more gut wrenching. I understand itâs supposed to be false bravado, but when she gets to the point of âI donât know how / in the world / to stop thinking of him...â itâs still just a bit too cool for me.
Yeah, the "soulless" tag has often been attached to them - or worse - that they were "too white". I was never a huge fan of them but they had some great tunes and excellent arrangements. Similar criticisms had been lobbed at Dionne Warwick over the years, as well as many other artists who could have been called "cross-over" acts. Personally I've seldom agreed with those criticisms but we all hear different things, right.
Another Bacharach/David classic - Marilyn McCoo had a beautiful voice - at least a 3-octave range.
The lyricism of Hal David here always blows me away, (âI end each day the way I start out / crying my heart outâ WTF!!!) but McCooâs (and the other 4 Dimensionsâ) soulless delivery frustrates the heck out of me. Appropriate for the times, but in my head I wish for something much more gut wrenching. I understand itâs supposed to be false bravado, but when she gets to the point of âI donât know how / in the world / to stop thinking of him...â itâs still just a bit too cool for me.
