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Posted: Jan 21, 2022 - 4:21pm

 miamizsun wrote:

the initiation of violence is almost always about higher claims on property (or property rights which are human rights)

and usually about the arrogance, hubris, ignorance or stupidity of people unwilling to negotiate or work things out

especially extremists on the right and the left (it's the curse of bad beliefs systems)

Disagree.  Violence is always about resources.  From one end to the other.  The narrative evolves to motivate people to steal, detain, torture and kill. 

Your second line is naive beyond belief.   Take the ethnic cleansing campaigns of early US statehood.    The US Armed Forces extirpated large numbers of North American natives.  They forced them off the land and confined them in non-economic reserves.  Was there any opportunity for North American natives to negotiate or work things out?

miamizsun:  Have you ever talked to American natives who were thankful that the American state had wiped out a big chunk of their family and community?  

Take the modern US-backed ethnic cleansing terrorism in the former Palestinian Mandate.    Are you familiar with the failed Oslo Peace Accords?   If the answer is yes, then you are aware that Israel was unwilling to stop the flow of settlers to the West Bank.   What would you miamizsun suggest the Palestinians should have done in that case?   

miamizsun, I have two adult-like questions for you.

How many Americans lives are you willing to sacrifice so Israel can annexe the Golan Heights, East Jerusalem, continue to flood the West Bank with settlers, etc., etc.?  

The state of Israel came to life thanks to the heroic efforts of Palestinian Jewish Terrorists.   Should patriotic Americans band together and finance a statue that honours terrorism and then give it to Israel as a gift? 




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Posted: Jan 14, 2022 - 12:44pm

Penzey’s is kinda funny.

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Posted: Jan 13, 2022 - 11:13am

Oath Keepers head charged with Jan. 6 seditious conspiracy
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Posted: Jan 13, 2022 - 10:45am

 rgio wrote:
What would replace them, if anything, was unclear.


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Posted: Jan 13, 2022 - 10:06am

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House passes Freedom to Vote: John R. Lewis Act & sends to Senate for immediate debate

Not a single GOP House member supported voting rights bill


and that reflects problems on both sides of the aisle.

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Posted: Jan 13, 2022 - 9:42am

House passes Freedom to Vote: John R. Lewis Act & sends to Senate for immediate debate

Not a single GOP House member supported voting rights bill
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Posted: Jan 13, 2022 - 8:44am

R.N.C. Signals a Pullout From Presidential Debates

The Republican National Committee says it will require candidates to pledge to not participate in debates run by the Commission on Presidential Debates. What would replace them, if anything, was unclear.

Apparently, the RNC is setting the table so Trump doesn't have to face unwanted questions again.  Why would they...since everyone is out to get them.


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    Posted: Jan 9, 2022 - 1:38pm

     R_P wrote:

    Check FOXNews' web page. Not a mention of Ted "Zodiac Killer" Cruz.
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    Posted: Jan 9, 2022 - 12:31pm

    A Divided Nation Unites to Mock Ted Cruz’s Groveling to Tucker Carlson: ‘One of the Most Pathetic Things I’ve Ever Seen’
    westslope

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    Posted: Jan 9, 2022 - 10:27am

     Red_Dragon wrote:


    Unless it's about religion or ethnicity - or someone's ear.

    No.  Relgion, ethnicity and group identification form part of the narrative that results in better intra-group cooperation and the resulting rhetoric oftens invites those group members to stop viewing the issue in a rational manner. 

    Read the someone's ear anecdote carefully.  Can you identify the resource at stake?

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    Posted: Jan 8, 2022 - 2:38pm

     R_P wrote:
                I'm in the dove club. 




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    Posted: Jan 8, 2022 - 12:53pm

     miamizsun wrote:
    the initiation of violence is almost always about higher claims on property (or property rights which are human rights)

    and usually about the arrogance, hubris, ignorance or stupidity of people unwilling to negotiate or work things out

    especially extremists on the right and the left (it's the curse of bad beliefs systems)

    The extreme center: Eight of 10 Americans Support Ground War in Afghanistan

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    Posted: Jan 8, 2022 - 7:09am

     westslope wrote:
    Violent conflict is always about resources.   
     
    the initiation of violence is almost always about higher claims on property (or property rights which are human rights)

    and usually about the arrogance, hubris, ignorance or stupidity of people unwilling to negotiate or work things out

    especially extremists on the right and the left (it's the curse of bad beliefs systems)
    miamizsun

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    Posted: Jan 8, 2022 - 6:57am

     R_P wrote:
     miamizsun wrote:
    it seems her bar for conflict or civil war is lower than we might think

    Who's we?
    The sort of civil war that Walter and Marche worry about wouldn’t involve red and blue armies facing off on some battlefield. If it happens, it will be more of a guerrilla insurgency. As Walter told me, she, like Marche, relies on an academic definition of “major armed conflict” as one that causes at least 1,000 deaths per year. A “minor armed conflict” is one that kills at least 25 people a year. By this definition, as Marche argues, “America is already in a state of civil strife.” According to the Anti-Defamation League, extremists, most of them right-wing, killed 54 people in 2018 and 45 people in 2019. (They killed 17 people in 2020, a figure that was low due to the absence of extremist mass shootings, possibly because of the pandemic.)
     
    i think that's the point i was making?
    rgio

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    Posted: Jan 8, 2022 - 5:42am

    The organization that conducted the review of the presidential vote in Arizona’s largest county said it was insolvent and had laid off its employees.

    The value of the audit was the repeated suggestion of fraud, not the fact that there wasn't any.  In true modern Republican fashion... question what you don't like, sell it to the faithful and then disappear when anyone starts asking questions about facts.  


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    Posted: Jan 7, 2022 - 2:32pm

     westslope wrote:

    Violent conflict is always about resources. 
    Understand the valuable resources in play and you can start to sketch the outline of future conflict.

    Unfortunately, most voting North Americans appear to believe that violent conflict is about 'us versus them'.   Cultural preferences are at play according to this popular attitude.  It is often expressed as:  "They hate our lifestyle."   Often this ends up being one version of Dark Ages-style morality pitted against another.   

    Walter is in some senses stating the obvious that civil war victims are often taken by surprise but it is definitely worth dwelling on this observation. For a recent example, see how pro-American Afghanis and ex-pats in Afghanistan were taken by surprise by the speed at the Taliban takeover of the country and the ensuing chaos despite overwhelming historical experience to suggest that exact outcome.    

    The incompetent US armed forces NEVER controlled Afghanistan through almost 2 decades of military occupation.    


    Unless it's about religion or ethnicity - or someone's ear.
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    Posted: Jan 7, 2022 - 2:23pm

     R_P wrote:
    Barbara F. Walter, a political scientist at the University of California, San Diego, has interviewed many people who’ve lived through civil wars, and she told me they all say they didn’t see it coming. “They’re all surprised,” she said. “Even when, to somebody who studies it, it’s obvious years beforehand.”


    Violent conflict is always about resources.  Understand the valuable resources in play and you can start to sketch the outline of future conflict.

    Unfortunately, most voting North Americans appear to believe that violent conflict is about 'us versus them'.   Cultural preferences are at play according to this popular attitude.  It is often expressed as:  "They hate our lifestyle."   Often this ends up being one version of Dark Ages-style morality pitted against another.   

    Walter is in some senses stating the obvious that civil war victims are often taken by surprise but it is definitely worth dwelling on this observation. For a recent example, see how pro-American Afghanis and ex-pats in Afghanistan were taken by surprise by the speed at the Taliban takeover of the country and the ensuing chaos despite overwhelming historical experience to suggest that exact outcome.    

    The incompetent US armed forces NEVER controlled Afghanistan through almost 2 decades of military occupation.    
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    Posted: Jan 7, 2022 - 1:42pm

     miamizsun wrote:
    it seems her bar for conflict or civil war is lower than we might think

    Who's we?
    The sort of civil war that Walter and Marche worry about wouldn’t involve red and blue armies facing off on some battlefield. If it happens, it will be more of a guerrilla insurgency. As Walter told me, she, like Marche, relies on an academic definition of “major armed conflict” as one that causes at least 1,000 deaths per year. A “minor armed conflict” is one that kills at least 25 people a year. By this definition, as Marche argues, “America is already in a state of civil strife.” According to the Anti-Defamation League, extremists, most of them right-wing, killed 54 people in 2018 and 45 people in 2019. (They killed 17 people in 2020, a figure that was low due to the absence of extremist mass shootings, possibly because of the pandemic.)

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    Posted: Jan 7, 2022 - 1:32pm

     R_P wrote:
    Barbara F. Walter, a political scientist at the University of California, San Diego, has interviewed many people who’ve lived through civil wars, and she told me they all say they didn’t see it coming. “They’re all surprised,” she said. “Even when, to somebody who studies it, it’s obvious years beforehand.”



    i don't know much about her, her work or her new book
    it seems her bar for conflict or civil war is lower than we might think
    is gang violence a low grade civil war?
    she and couple of others direct an online mag 
    regards


    Political Violence @ a Glance
    is an online magazine directed by Erica Chenoweth, Christian Davenport, Barbara Walter and Joe Young, that answers questions on the most pressing problems related to violence and protest in the world’s conflict zones. Political Violence @ A Glance is supported by the UC Institute of Global Conflict & Cooperation, a University of California think tank specializing in research, training, and policy engagement around issues related to international security, economic development, political violence and its antecedents, and peace building.


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    Posted: Jan 7, 2022 - 12:44pm

     R_P wrote:
    Barbara F. Walter, a political scientist at the University of California, San Diego, has interviewed many people who’ve lived through civil wars, and she told me they all say they didn’t see it coming. “They’re all surprised,” she said. “Even when, to somebody who studies it, it’s obvious years beforehand.”
     
    That veneer of civilisation is damn thin sometimes.
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