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rgio

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Posted: May 6, 2022 - 4:11am

I appreciate the firewall and its limitations, but if anyone has access and is interested...this is a really well-constructed discussion of wokeness, free-speech, and the state of the discourse on college campuses. 

Why Critics of Angry Woke College Kids Are Missing the Point

Here's one section of the Q&A format (the section before the Bold question is part of the prior answer, but sets up the next question):

Little episodes about cancel culture make great tidbits in newspapers
and talk shows, but they don’t represent this larger and deeper project
of the right of mobilizing state power and corporations for their agenda
in schools. They also don’t represent the deeper problem with
which we began: the confusions and the loss of boundaries between
something like academic freedom and free speech. That boundary is just
totally messed up.

Where should that boundary be?
Academic freedom needs to be appreciated as a collective right of the
faculty to be free of interference in determining what we research and
teach. We’re accountable to our disciplines, our peers. We can’t just do
anything and have it called quality scholarship or teaching. But the
idea of academic freedom is that we are free of external interference.
Free speech is different. It’s an individual right for the civic and
public sphere. It’s not about research and teaching. It’s not even about
the classroom. It’s what you can say in public without infringement by
others or the state. Now, what’s the mess-up? The right today is
mobilizing state power and using corporate money to attempt to constrain
academic freedom in the name of free speech. They’re attempting to say
what can’t be taught in primary and secondary schools, and they’d like
to get their hands on the public universities. They don’t say we’re
trying to constrict academic freedom. They bring free speech in as the
rubric for these constraints or censorship and often bring parental
rights as well. Now let’s go to the left. The left has permitted a
certain moral, political strain to gain a foothold in classrooms where
things ought to be more open and contestatory. That’s where I think
there’s confusion on the part of the left and the right about whether
the classroom is that civic space for free speech or whether it ought to
be governed by something more like academic freedom, which is, again, a
faculty right. Then the question is, What can and should students be
able to do there? My own view is that they ought to be able to try out
their ideas but not simply have them presented as a political broadside.
That’s not what class is for. That’s for civic space.


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Posted: May 3, 2022 - 11:03am

Savor The Great Musk Panic
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Posted: Feb 5, 2018 - 10:31am

In a Major Free Speech Victory, a Federal Court Strikes Down a Law that Punishes Supporters of Israel Boycott

A federal judge on Tuesday ruled that a Kansas law designed to punish people who boycott Israel is an unconstitutional denial of free speech. The ruling is a significant victory for free speech rights because the global campaign to criminalize, or otherwise legally outlaw, the Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions movement has been spreading rapidly in numerous political and academic centers in the U.S. This judicial decision definitively declares those efforts — when they manifest in the U.S. — to be a direct infringement of basic First Amendment rights guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution.


https://theintercept.com/2018/01/31/kansas-bds-law-free-speech/
DownHomeGirl

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Posted: Apr 15, 2009 - 1:41pm

 pdhski wrote:

 am I missing something?

{#Ask}

His response seems entirely appropriate and spot-on.
 
I don't know.  It just sounded kind of threatening at the end.  Not that persons who destroyed property shouldn't be charged, that isn't what I'm saying.  Just something about the tone.  Hostile all around.  Well deserved, but still...  Just a weird situation all in all.  Disturbing event in general.  I just thought it was interesting.

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Posted: Apr 15, 2009 - 12:48pm

OCDHG wrote:
Well this is interesting...
Student protesters shut down a visiting former congressman... surrounded the building and busted out the class in the classroom where his speech was to take place. Disturbing words coming from both the student protesters and the Chancellor.



 am I missing something?

{#Ask}

His response seems entirely appropriate and spot-on.

DownHomeGirl

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Posted: Apr 15, 2009 - 12:07pm

Well this is interesting...
Student protesters shut down a visiting former congressman... surrounded the building and busted out the class in the classroom where his speech was to take place.  Disturbing words coming from both the student protesters and the Chancellor.

Protest stops Tancredo's UNC speech
CHAPEL HILL — UNC-CH police released pepper spray and threatened to use a Taser on student protesters Tuesday evening when a crowd disrupted a speech by former Colorado congressman Tom Tancredo opposing in-state tuition benefits to unauthorized immigrants.

Hundreds of protesters converged on Bingham Hall, shouting profanities and accusations of racism while Tancredo and the student who introduced him tried to speak. Minutes into the speech, a protester pounded a window of the classroom until the glass shattered, prompting Tancredo to flee and campus police to shut down the event.

..... Full article here

 



Email from the Chancellor:

I want to express how disappointed I am in what happened last night when
former Congressman Tom Tancredo wasn't able to speak when a protest got
out of hand, and our Department of Public Safety had to take action.
Congressman Tancredo felt threatened and left without making his
remarks.

Mr. Tancredo was scheduled to speak about immigration. We expect
protests about controversial subjects at Carolina. That's part of our
culture. But we also pride ourselves on being a place where all points
of view can be expressed and heard. There's a way to protest that
respects free speech and allows people with opposing views to be heard.
Here that's often meant that groups protesting a speaker have displayed
signs or banners, silently expressing their opinions while the speaker
had his or her say. That didn't happen last night.

On behalf of our University community, I called Mr. Tancredo today to
apologize for how he was treated. In addition, our Department of Public
Safety is investigating this incident. They will pursue criminal charges
if any are warranted. Our Division of Student Affairs is also
investigating student involvement in the protest. If that investigation
determines sufficient evidence, participating students could face Honor
Court proceedings.

Carolina's tradition of free speech is a fundamental part of what has
made this place special for more than 200 years. Let's recommit
ourselves to that ideal.

Sincerely,

Holden Thorp

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