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jarro

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Posted: Nov 8, 2021 - 6:30am

 AlienNLight wrote:


I am on a ASUS Zenfone 5 - Android 9 up-to-date. Again, no auto-fill cache set. I am running DuckduckGo app as browser and no dedicated settings for audio there....

Not familiar with duck browser.  But I just meant the volume slider in the radio paradise website.   It defaults to 100% but if you use it to control the volume it can affect the quality versus the app.    Otherwise most browsers should sound the same.   

Couldn't find anything specific to your phone.   A few similar complaints, but no solutions.    On other phones it can be a few things.    Rogue, voice command apps,  background app updater launching apps,  faulty screen digitizer.     The  battery optimizer setting  miamizson  mentioned can cause problems.     I usually recommend disabling it as it can cause all sorts of random issues.     



miamizsun

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Posted: Nov 7, 2021 - 8:24am

not sure if this is helpful (but may be worth a try)
AlienNLight

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Posted: Nov 7, 2021 - 8:04am

 jarro wrote:

Your situation is a bit of a mystery.
I tried googling "android app randomly opens" and it gets a lot of hits.
So this is a known issue. I'd need some info about the phone model and android version to look into it further.


The app doesn't have any auto open behavior built in.  And I've never run into it.   The closest thing is if the auto fill cache feature is enabled  it will run in the background while charging to see if it needs to do anything.   While doing that it has to show a notification.   Clicking on these notifications will open the app.    

We have also had a few complaints about notifications randomly appearing with the song info.  But that's usually related to quirks with the bluetooth media controls.   And is just something some phones have issues with.   Clicking those notifications will also open the app.    

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Regarding website audio quality.   It supports the same bitrates as the app.    And I'm not sure about every browser but chrome and most others use the same audio engine in the background as the app.  "ExoPlayer"      What most likely  causes some difference is the volume slider on the website.    Probably best to set it to 100%  and adjust the volume using the phone's controls.   





I am on a ASUS Zenfone 5 - Android 9 up-to-date. Again, no auto-fill cache set. I am running DuckduckGo app as browser and no dedicated settings for audio there....
westslope

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Posted: Nov 7, 2021 - 7:16am

Anecdotal and perhaps not very helpful.....

We have an old Lenovo tablet run by an old version of Android that I use mostly to listen to radio news (NPR, CBC, Reuters, Radio-Canada, sometimes Latin American stations) while washing dishes, working on the vehicles and around the house, etc.

If I fail to close the App in question, the App will often start playing again all by itself.  Closing apps prevents this from happening. No requirement to shutdown the tablet.

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Which on a personal note reminds that I should review the security of the Android tablet.  No serious works gets done on it and it is not connected to the household LAN but it is does use the wi-fi router for access to the internet. 


jarro

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Posted: Nov 7, 2021 - 5:04am

 AlienNLight wrote:

I re=-installed the app since the browser playback quality is very lame... The same problem came back right away, the RP app get launched arbitrarily and await for a "play" command... No permission alloy or specific battery setting. Now, for an app without any permission, how can it starts without any user's interaction?


Your situation is a bit of a mystery.
I tried googling "android app randomly opens" and it gets a lot of hits.
So this is a known issue. I'd need some info about the phone model and android version to look into it further.


The app doesn't have any auto open behavior built in.  And I've never run into it.   The closest thing is if the auto fill cache feature is enabled  it will run in the background while charging to see if it needs to do anything.   While doing that it has to show a notification.   Clicking on these notifications will open the app.    

We have also had a few complaints about notifications randomly appearing with the song info.  But that's usually related to quirks with the bluetooth media controls.   And is just something some phones have issues with.   Clicking those notifications will also open the app.    


Regarding website audio quality.   It supports the same bitrates as the app.    And I'm not sure about every browser but chrome and most others use the same audio engine in the background as the app.  "ExoPlayer"      What most likely  causes some difference is the volume slider on the website.    Probably best to set it to 100%  and adjust the volume using the phone's controls.   



AlienNLight

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Posted: Nov 6, 2021 - 8:27am

I re=-installed the app since the browser playback quality is very lame... The same problem came back right away, the RP app get launched arbitrarily and await for a "play" command... No permission alloy or specific battery setting. Now, for an app without any permission, how can it starts without any user's interaction?
jarro

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Posted: Oct 22, 2021 - 3:56pm

 AlienNLight wrote:


Any app that has no permission on the OS and starts by itself should be a concern...As I said, deleted. Hasta la vista...

When I look into the issue,  it is a surprisingly common complaint across a lot of phone models not really specific to any app. 
I'd need more info to help.



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Posted: Oct 22, 2021 - 11:59am

 jarro wrote:

If it's starting to play audio,  I'd probably do the same.    Only a couple of things I could suggest.   ( unsintall/reinstall,   and remove rp from the list of battery optimized apps )   That being said I see a surprising number of complaints for that, when I google it.



Any app that has no permission on the OS and starts by itself should be a concern...As I said, deleted. Hasta la vista...
jarro

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Posted: Oct 15, 2021 - 6:16pm

 AlienNLight wrote:


Yes, Android. It did it again last night...The cache autofill has been on since day one, years back,and I never had this behavior. I ended-up deleting the app....

If it's starting to play audio,  I'd probably do the same.    Only a couple of things I could suggest.   ( unsintall/reinstall,   and remove rp from the list of battery optimized apps )   That being said I see a surprising number of complaints for that, when I google it.

AlienNLight

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Posted: Oct 15, 2021 - 3:40pm

 jarro wrote:


This is probably  on Android?
There is a feature to top up the cache while the phone is charging.   Can disable it in settings if it's causing issues on your device.
settings -> cache options -> cache autofill -> then delete any channels in the list.  


Yes, Android. It did it again last night...The cache autofill has been on since day one, years back,and I never had this behavior. I ended-up deleting the app....
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Posted: Oct 14, 2021 - 8:45am

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I know this is a jest, but the right response to telemarketers is to never, ever, respond in any way. Don't push a button, or make a sound.


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Posted: Oct 14, 2021 - 8:04am


jarro

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Posted: Oct 14, 2021 - 8:02am

 AlienNLight wrote:

Anyone has this strange behavior? In the middle of the night - the RP apps screen pops-up....



This is probably  on Android?
There is a feature to top up the cache while the phone is charging.   Can disable it in settings if it's causing issues on your device.
settings -> cache options -> cache autofill -> then delete any channels in the list.  
AlienNLight

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Posted: Oct 14, 2021 - 5:26am

Anyone has this strange behavior? In the middle of the night - the RP apps screen pops-up....