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Took a negotiation class in school and the primary directive was never to treat it as a zero-sum game: A negotiation is most successful when both parties âwin.â
I read a piece on the Israeli-Palestinian negotiations that basically said it was an intractable problem because both sides thought they lost if the other got anything they wanted.
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Jun 9, 2026 - 11:22am
Steely_D wrote:
Had to have this talk with a good, otherwise rational, friend the other day because his dating scheme wasn't working. "I don't think your conversations should be arguments as much as they could be negotiations. No one has to "win" but it sounds like that's your approach. Why would someone go out with you again if that's how discussions go?"
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Took a negotiation class in school and the primary directive was never to treat it as a zero-sum game: A negotiation is most successful when both parties âwin.â
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Jun 9, 2026 - 10:43am
islander wrote:
I am so tired of these people. They think everything is a contest. They believe zero sum theory - if you have something, it's a thing they don't have (and they deserve). Every interaction has a winner and loser. You can't even say 'good morning' to these people without them getting a snide power trip over 'you reached out to me for a greeting'. 'We owned the woke liberal mob', wtf? this isn't how rational adults behave.
Had to have this talk with a good, otherwise rational, friend the other day because his dating scheme wasn't working. "I don't think your conversations should be arguments as much as they could be negotiations. No one has to "win" but it sounds like that's your approach. Why would someone go out with you again if that's how discussions go?"
You can't help but see that this bully alpha culture, resulting in "incels" etc., is being encouraged and perpetuated by the podcast bros, and trump and his administration. Shameful and, ultimately, a dead end. Most clear-headed folks have figured out by now that the incessant bluster and boast and bullying is just a really annoying noise that translates into "I'm clueless about things that matter."
But some folks are just stuck in the "haw haw, trump really owned your ass" or "that Biden sure was old" while they put $7 dollar a gallon diesel in their tank.
"I've spent an hour in the 'ring' with you." What a puss. Pleasantly surprised by Kristen Walker's persistence!
I am so tired of these people. They think everything is a contest. They believe zero sum theory - if you have something, it's a thing they don't have (and they deserve). Every interaction has a winner and loser. You can't even say 'good morning' to these people without them getting a snide power trip over 'you reached out to me for a greeting'. 'We owned the woke liberal mob', wtf? this isn't how rational adults behave.
"I've spent an hour in the 'ring' with you." What a puss. Pleasantly surprised by Kristen Walker's persistence!
He had a peculiar way of distancing himself from previous wars, only using the pronoun "you" instead of "we" - as if he were a non-American observer: Well I wouldnât say â well, you really havenât â again, you were in Vietnam for 19 years. You were in Iraq for many years. You were in Korea for many, many years. You were in all â I wonât even talk about World War II, because that was the big one. And we donât want to ever have that. But you were in all these different wars for many years with thousands and thousands of people killed.
Granted, he managed to keep from being drafted so he was never "there", but he's still an American president. Also, Kristen Welker wasn't even born when the Vietnam War ended and the Korean War lasted a little more than three years, far from "many, many years".
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Posted:
Jun 9, 2026 - 7:48am
ScottFromWyoming wrote:
So I don't know what is taking so long in California but here in Wyoming, our nitwit SecState and lower level Freedom Caucus robots are pushing for hand counting ballots, no mail-in, vote in person on election day (only)... all things that slow down the count BUT they're going to also throw a fit when the count takes a long time? That sounds like (and IS) a recipe for a rigged election. "Hey we're still counting but it's Trump in a landslide. What a shocker!"
Saw that last night on an interview with a supervisor. âSo, youâre worried about fraud, but you say that if we take our time to make sure the count is rightâ¦thatâs fraud? Makes no sense.â
So I don't know what is taking so long in California but here in Wyoming, our nitwit SecState and lower level Freedom Caucus robots are pushing for hand counting ballots, no mail-in, vote in person on election day (only)... all things that slow down the count BUT they're going to also throw a fit when the count takes a long time? That sounds like (and IS) a recipe for a rigged election. "Hey we're still counting but it's Trump in a landslide. What a shocker!"
And, as a defensive tactic that the media should be using, put a man in the interviewer chair - not because women arenât good at it, but because the dynamic would be totally different. Preferably a large, âHe-manâ that would be the kind you canât stare down. Think this through, folks.
Yeah, I don't think Donnie would throw a hissy fit at Bret Baier. Unfortunately, Bret's a company man who'd never confront Drumpf.