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Posted: Aug 5, 2022 - 10:09am

How the NRA Rewrote the Second Amendment
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Posted: Jul 30, 2022 - 3:57pm

So much virtue, so little space.
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Posted: Jul 29, 2022 - 4:51pm

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Posted: Jul 26, 2022 - 5:45pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

Gavin Newsom’s plan to save the Constitution by trolling the Supreme Court

A new California gun law should force the Supreme Court to confront the enormity of its worst decision in decades.



"That is, of course, assuming that this increasingly political Supreme Court cares about consistency."
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Posted: Jul 26, 2022 - 11:56am

Gavin Newsom’s plan to save the Constitution by trolling the Supreme Court

A new California gun law should force the Supreme Court to confront the enormity of its worst decision in decades.


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Posted: Jul 25, 2022 - 7:35pm

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I'm not defending it, but in this case it's only peripherally about guns. It's Newsom playing his cards across state lines to deliver some unintended consequences to the pro-lifers who thought they were so smart. Maybe the thought is that Texas will go "oh shit!" and drop their law. Your last comment illustrates how that will work out.


The other possibility is that they say, "See, everyone is doing it, must be ok." Overall, I think the republicans are happy to let the country devolve as long as they can control the sparsely populated states.
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Posted: Jul 25, 2022 - 8:30am

 islander wrote:

Yes, this ^^^^^^

"well  being an asshole seems to be effective for those guys, let's roll out a platform of assholery of our own" is not a great response. How about "You're clearly being an asshole, let's close up the loopholes that let you be an asshole and get a bunch of people to routinely vote assholes out of office".

One approach hopefully reduces assholery, no guarantee, but it's a hope. The other approach not only guarantees assholery, it encourages the assholes to dig in ('see you did it too' ) and to go looking for a way to be a bigger asshole next time around. 



I'm not defending it, but in this case it's only peripherally about guns. It's Newsom playing his cards across state lines to deliver some unintended consequences to the pro-lifers who thought they were so smart. Maybe the thought is that Texas will go "oh shit!" and drop their law. Your last comment illustrates how that will work out.
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Posted: Jul 25, 2022 - 4:46am

yeehaw!
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Posted: Jul 23, 2022 - 12:00pm

 islander wrote:
Yes, this ^^^^^^

"well  being an asshole seems to be effective for those guys, let's roll out a platform of assholery of our own" is not a great response. How about "You're clearly being an asshole, let's close up the loopholes that let you be an asshole and get a bunch of people to routinely vote assholes out of office".

One approach hopefully reduces assholery, no guarantee, but it's a hope. The other approach not only guarantees assholery, it encourages the assholes to dig in ('see you did it too' ) and to go looking for a way to be a bigger asshole next time around.

Yes, and it raises the stakes. We have to win at any cost because look what they'll do to you if we don't.
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Posted: Jul 23, 2022 - 11:59am

Add dog-sue-dog to dog-eat-dog.
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Posted: Jul 23, 2022 - 11:56am

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Yes, there appears to be a race to the bottom. You abuse process to hurt people we care about, we abuse process to hurt people you care about. That otherwise law-abiding people get financially ruined in the process is just gravy, because we don't like them and want them to suffer.

It's political hostage taking.

Yes, this ^^^^^^

"well  being an asshole seems to be effective for those guys, let's roll out a platform of assholery of our own" is not a great response. How about "You're clearly being an asshole, let's close up the loopholes that let you be an asshole and get a bunch of people to routinely vote assholes out of office".

One approach hopefully reduces assholery, no guarantee, but it's a hope. The other approach not only guarantees assholery, it encourages the assholes to dig in ('see you did it too' ) and to go looking for a way to be a bigger asshole next time around. 

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Posted: Jul 23, 2022 - 11:49am

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Sure but that's Newsom saying "two can play that game."

Yes, there appears to be a race to the bottom. You abuse process to hurt people we care about, we abuse process to hurt people you care about. That otherwise law-abiding people get financially ruined in the process is just gravy, because we don't like them and want them to suffer.

It's political hostage taking.
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Posted: Jul 23, 2022 - 11:25am

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I get the appeal of this, but I don't like it.  Doesn't this just validate that approach?  

Sure but that's Newsom saying "two can play that game." 

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In a only sort-of related turn, our Wyo legislature has passed a law saying it's illegal for a local cop to arrest someone in violation of a federal gun law. I don't think that was a problem but anyway, it's the same sort of law that's behind "sanctuary cities," which our same legislators would be howling about except now they have CRT to worry about.
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Posted: Jul 23, 2022 - 10:41am

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I get the appeal of this, but I don't like it.  Doesn't this just validate that approach?  
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Posted: Jul 23, 2022 - 7:23am

Newsom signs California gun bill modeled after Texas abortion law
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Posted: Jul 21, 2022 - 6:45am

American gun violence has immense costs beyond the death toll, new studies find
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Posted: Jul 18, 2022 - 9:12am

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Is this regarding the mall shooting where a legally armed citizen shot and killed the shooter and prevented any further victims ?


I saw that movie! Except here he judged that the room was full of miscreants and dispatched them effectively.
Judge, jury, executioner. That’ll make America great again, I expect.

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Posted: Jul 18, 2022 - 8:33am

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 Red_Dragon wrote:
The link points to the Zelenskyy firing people story but the page it opens is on the RP site. You may have been referring to this story but it doesn't really fit the narrative.
 
Is this regarding the mall shooting where a legally armed citizen shot and killed the shooter and prevented any further victims ?
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