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All de dreams you go sell, de whole dem turn inna hell
Her bed of roses are filled with thorns
Her righteous robes are tattered and torn
If she had only stood for love
That would have been enough
She wouldn't have to hide her shame
If she had only stood for love
That would have been enough
But now she's burnt us all with her flames
Amerimacka
Oh what a beautiful life
Amerimacka
Is like licking honey off a knife
Amerimacka
Oh what a beautiful sight
Amerimacka
Oh what a beautiful life
The land of the free built on slavery
Our consciousness in captivity
The promise land is the liar's den
Your culture of greed has got to end
Now we're laying in the mud
Looking up above
Tear water just ah drop from the sky
They try to keep us in the mud
Separating us from love
But me nah go let dem conquer de I
Amerimacka
Oh what a beautiful life
Amerimacka
Is like licking honey off a knife
Amerimacka
Oh what a beautiful sight
Amerimacka
Oh what a beautiful life
ZzzzzzzzzzzzzZzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
GREAT TUNE!! Go back to sleep or hit the "skip button"! ...problem solved!
I came here to say the same thing!
Who's Harry Potter?
Regional?
Really Nice!
Harry Potter?
I came here to say the same thing!
Harry Potter?
Macapaca.
Proclivities wrote:
Michael Dean wrote: "Fake quotes will ruin the internet" — Benjamin Franklin
For the record, the U.S. State Department now reports 42%, which is a stunning increase in my lifetime. I would have believed 10% 30 years ago. I used to travel to Canada without one, and that has changed and may explain much of the increase. The middle class can now afford to travel to the Caribbean and Belize - yippee!
Fred, I don’t usually do this because I don’t like to give legitimacy to the arguments of those who willfully marginalize themselves by their arguments, as you do. When being serious, which I find very difficult to do when debating with you on politics, I would never call the US an empire in the sense the UK was. If this word is to signify anything, it means colonization and subjugation of distant lands under the crown for national glory, economic betterment, and missionary zeal; none of which has ever applied to the US. It is Orwellian to call the US an empire. Every existing state in the world has sought in the past to expand its borders to whatever they are today (or, conversely, they have had them reduced against their will). If the US is an empire, then so is Chile, or Bhutan, or Chad. If it needs pointing out to you the difference between US forces now stationed in Japan, Germany, or South Korea, and those stationed in India by UK in the past, then I can only pray you someday awake from such ignorance and misunderstanding. Think of what King Leopold and Belgium did in the Congo in the 20th Century (genocide on the scale of millions), or France in Algeria in the 60s! and tell me the US is an empire in the mold of France or Belgium or UK. It’s too stupid to continue. Enough. The last I’ll ever write on this subject.
"The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them." - George Orwell
You are correct, t0m5k1. The royals need to go!
I see your opinion, clear what you are saying, but you are wrong.
The positive and beneficial things that they do mean everything to the conventional British people, and as those people make the most sacrifices to remain free from foreign tyranny, their wishes will be respected, or whatever or however it can be described. You wanna republic, then split yo, to a republic. Simple and easy. Last thing, royals are humans and as such not consigned to a dustbin somewhere as the Jewish have been throughout history.
No, you are totally incorrect.
A simple read of many pages on the web will tell you they are NOT ceremonial.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy_of_the_United_Kingdom
Try reading the above and then research what they do in a better way.
I am a brit who longs for a republic but this day is quite far off but they still are an active part in how the UK is run.
Your statement above shows you do not understand what a parliament is or even a Prime Minister.
You are correct, t0m5k1. The royals need to go!
Why do you think I "bark"? You are the one, more than anyone, who injects politics to the discussion here. You are a self-described "radical" socialist with a transparent agenda. You are so high up on your horse it is risible. The idea of me going to a UK comment board and spewing hateful bile about the UK is something so appalling to my sense of decency I would imagine that is unprecedented in the UK for any American to have done that. You don't believe in democracy, and you support a socialist dictatorship to control our lives. The fact clowns like you can come here and post and fool people into thinking you are respectible is confounding and it goes to show that there is still a small segment of barking idiots out there for whom leftist dictatorships still hold sway.
RDO you wrote a great post 7 years ago and managed to do it without name calling. It was spot on, made your points, and is up-voted well above this one. Including a vote from me.
Then here you come throwing out insults, derision, and hostility. "Barking", if you will. One with a true sense of decency wouldn't have stooped so low with this post. Sadly, you display all the faux umbrage and self righteousness of a current 'Murican. Making some of the rest of us here cringe.
Fred: We don't all have the veins bulging out of our heads with rage. You do you.
Completely agree. I dig'em and have seen them in concert. 9:30 Club in D.C. Great show.....
The UK is not a monarchy. It has a Prime Minister, Parliament, and elections for them. It does still have a royal family but they are symbolic and not in charge of anything.
No, you are totally incorrect.
A simple read of many pages on the web will tell you they are NOT ceremonial.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy_of_the_United_Kingdom
Try reading the above and then research what they do in a better way.
I am a brit who longs for a republic but this day is quite far off but they still are an active part in how the UK is run.
Your statement above shows you do not understand what a parliament is or even a Prime Minister.
Ugh. I got this on psd...not a bad tune. First off, that is a cynical response and beneath you. Not serious. Not worthy of addressing...
What I will address is...if I were not by my good fortune born American, and had been born somewhere else...what would I think? I agree the US is powerful and has WAY too much influence. We need WAY more democracy on this planet outside the US but, unfortunately, this is not forthcoming. The UK is still, amazingly, beyond belief, a....MONARCHY....need I say more? I think you have plenty of issues at home to worry about first before you shoot your little wads of cynicism across the pond. But still, yes, the US is in everyone's face and I can see how many would be sick of the US and therefore trash talking is totally understandable...
The UK is not a monarchy. It has a Prime Minister, Parliament, and elections for them. It does still have a royal family but they are symbolic and not in charge of anything.
Why do you think I "bark"? ...(edited to spare us all)... still hold sway.
Holy smokes! Fred and I have had our musical disagreements on these boards over the years (Hi Fred!) but he is a decent chap and in no way deserves this shabby treatment.
You absolutely do "bark" but you have no "bite"... just bile. Sad.
Gotta say, I miss the Fred vs rdo feuds!
Our consciousness in captivity,
The promise land is the liar's den,
Your culture of greed has got to end.
old_shep wrote:
Proclivities wrote:
Michael Dean wrote: "Fake quotes will ruin the internet" — Benjamin Franklin
Rob Garza is coming to town as a solo act...anyone seen him?
Why do you think I "bark"? You are the one, more than anyone, who injects politics to the discussion here. You are a self-described "radical" socialist with a transparent agenda. You are so high up on your horse it is risible. The idea of me going to a UK comment board and spewing hateful bile about the UK is something so appalling to my sense of decency I would imagine that is unprecedented in the UK for any American to have done that. You don't believe in democracy, and you support a socialist dictatorship to control our lives. The fact clowns like you can come here and post and fool people into thinking you are respectible is confounding and it goes to show that there is still a small segment of barking idiots out there for whom leftist dictatorships still hold sway.
Go on, tell him what you really think!!!
The only Corporation we can trust in!
Wrong. At best a misunderstanding, at worst a blatant lie. Strange but true: you can be a libertarian and a socialist. Tip: look up Emma Goldman. If you weren't such a figure of fun on here I'd demand that you prove your libel, but I think I prefer the entertainment factor of your barking right-wing rants. At least you couldn't be accused of fence-sitting...
So, back to your original post:
Yes, you do. If it's so bleeding obvious what you want to say, then it'll not be difficult for you to put it in black and white for us cretins, eh?
Yes, O Barking One, you do. Holland and Sweden are 'monarchies', in the sense of having royal families with figurehead roles, and they are advanced and civilised social democracies by any yardstick, even yours. SFW?
Why do you think I "bark"? You are the one, more than anyone, who injects politics to the discussion here. You are a self-described "radical" socialist with a transparent agenda. You are so high up on your horse it is risible. The idea of me going to a UK comment board and spewing hateful bile about the UK is something so appalling to my sense of decency I would imagine that is unprecedented in the UK for any American to have done that. You don't believe in democracy, and you support a socialist dictatorship to control our lives. The fact clowns like you can come here and post and fool people into thinking you are respectible is confounding and it goes to show that there is still a small segment of barking idiots out there for whom leftist dictatorships still hold sway.
It is Orwellian to call the US an empire.
Yeah? That makes US neo-liberals like Paul Wolfowicz, Right-wing historians like Niall Ferguson (very, very pro-US), and old Machiavellians like Henry Kissinger "Orwellian" in your view, because they all refer to the US as an empire on a regular basis. Or see the website of the neo-liberal and openly imperialistic Project for the New American Century. There are few commentators across the political spectrum, within and outwith the US, who do not use the word "empire" in regard to the US, most often these days as a "declining empire".
As some American once famously said: if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and looks like a duck, then, mister, you've got a duck.
Yes, O Barking One, you do. Holland and Sweden are 'monarchies', in the sense of having royal families with figurehead roles, and they are advanced and civilised social democracies by any yardstick, even yours. SFW?
Semantic obfuscation. Same thing, different uniforms.
Ugh. I got this on psd...not a bad tune. First off, that is a cynical response and beneath you. Not serious. Not worthy of addressing...
What I will address is...if I were not by my good fortune born American, and had been born somewhere else...what would I think? I agree the US is powerful and has WAY too much influence. We need WAY more democracy on this planet outside the US but, unfortunately, this is not forthcoming. The UK is still, amazingly, beyond belief, a....MONARCHY....need I say more? I think you have plenty of issues at home to worry about first before you shoot your little wads of cynicism across the pond. But still, yes, the US is in everyone's face and I can see how many would be sick of the US and therefore trash talking is totally understandable...
Fred, I don’t usually do this because I don’t like to give legitimacy to the arguments of those who willfully marginalize themselves by their arguments, as you do. When being serious, which I find very difficult to do when debating with you on politics, I would never call the US an empire in the sense the UK was. If this word is to signify anything, it means colonization and subjugation of distant lands under the crown for national glory, economic betterment, and missionary zeal; none of which has ever applied to the US. It is Orwellian to call the US an empire. Every existing state in the world has sought in the past to expand its borders to whatever they are today (or, conversely, they have had them reduced against their will). If the US is an empire, then so is Chile, or Bhutan, or Chad. If it needs pointing out to you the difference between US forces now stationed in Japan, Germany, or South Korea, and those stationed in India by UK in the past, then I can only pray you someday awake from such ignorance and misunderstanding. Think of what King Leopold and Belgium did in the Congo in the 20th Century (genocide on the scale of millions), or France in Algeria in the 60s! and tell me the US is an empire in the mold of France or Belgium or UK. It’s too stupid to continue. Enough. The last I’ll ever write on this subject.
Semantic obfuscation. Same thing, different uniforms.
Fred, I don’t usually do this because I don’t like to give legitimacy to the arguments of those who willfully marginalize themselves by their arguments, as you do. When being serious, which I find very difficult to do when debating with you on politics, I would never call the US an empire in the sense the UK was. If this word is to signify anything, it means colonization and subjugation of distant lands under the crown for national glory, economic betterment, and missionary zeal; none of which has ever applied to the US. It is Orwellian to call the US an empire. Every existing state in the world has sought in the past to expand its borders to whatever they are today (or, conversely, they have had them reduced against their will). If the US is an empire, then so is Chile, or Bhutan, or Chad. If it needs pointing out to you the difference between US forces now stationed in Japan, Germany, or South Korea, and those stationed in India by UK in the past, then I can only pray you someday awake from such ignorance and misunderstanding. Think of what King Leopold and Belgium did in the Congo in the 20th Century (genocide on the scale of millions), or France in Algeria in the 60s! and tell me the US is an empire in the mold of France or Belgium or UK. It’s too stupid to continue. Enough. The last I’ll ever write on this subject.
Bravo, rdo. Here, in Europe, we love to hate the USA. I could never figure out why - any wrongs that the US did in the world is child's play compared with what most European nations did, as you very correctly point out (and you mercifully left out the UK out of your examples...)
I guess little people love to hate the big guys out of envy.
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www.marcin.bruczkowski.com
Fred, I don’t usually do this because I don’t like to give legitimacy to the arguments of those who willfully marginalize themselves by their arguments, as you do. When being serious, which I find very difficult to do when debating with you on politics, I would never call the US an empire in the sense the UK was. If this word is to signify anything, it means colonization and subjugation of distant lands under the crown for national glory, economic betterment, and missionary zeal; none of which has ever applied to the US. It is Orwellian to call the US an empire. Every existing state in the world has sought in the past to expand its borders to whatever they are today (or, conversely, they have had them reduced against their will). If the US is an empire, then so is Chile, or Bhutan, or Chad. If it needs pointing out to you the difference between US forces now stationed in Japan, Germany, or South Korea, and those stationed in India by UK in the past, then I can only pray you someday awake from such ignorance and misunderstanding. Think of what King Leopold and Belgium did in the Congo in the 20th Century (genocide on the scale of millions), or France in Algeria in the 60s! and tell me the US is an empire in the mold of France or Belgium or UK. It’s too stupid to continue. Enough. The last I’ll ever write on this subject.
Here's an interesting factoid: only 10% of US citizens hold a US passport...
That's a myth; it's more like 40%. Still, a pretty low number compared to some other nations.
A) A perfect little troll statement, or B) you are so utterly brilliant as to have an epiphanous and unique understanding of the entirety of artistry's collective soul.... Let's see, A or B??
It might be hard to accept in our greed driven nation, but not all people in the world are driven by money. Some people are motivated by other things. Here's an interesting factoid: only 10% of US citizens hold a US passport, and it's a guess as to how many or few of those actually put that passport to use! Like most things, experience leads to knowledge ... people, get out and see the world!
I think for the sake of accuracy in statements, it should be pointed out that you are the troll and not me. Your statement, if put to a vote, would be supported by about 1% if the US population. Mine 99%. That makes you the troll, not me. I may be in the minority on this comment board, but not the listeners of this station. Most people ignore trolls like you and don't even bother responding to your hatred. I get a little annoyed every now and then and speak up. But let's be clear about who is the troll. BTW, I am glad you speak up. All opinions are welcome here, even the trolls like you. I like trolls.
... The dirty little secret is that nearly all artists, with barely an exception, are dilettantes who play to a dilettante audience. I cannot think of a single performer who has ever said anything profound on politics. Slamming the US sells records. It's cheap and vulgar but that's where the money is. The irony is that all of the artists slam the US for "corporate greed". What nonsense. If anyone takes this stuff seriously they are stupid.
We're the good guys, but not the only good guys. If we are bad, then we are no worse than any other country.
A) A perfect little troll statement, or B) you are so utterly brilliant as to have an epiphanous and unique understanding of the entirety of artistry's collective soul.... Let's see, A or B??
It might be hard to accept in our greed driven nation, but not all people in the world are driven by money. Some people are motivated by other things. Here's an interesting factoid: only 10% of US citizens hold a US passport, and it's a guess as to how many or few of those actually put that passport to use! Like most things, experience leads to knowledge ... people, get out and see the world!
I think it is the use of the horns
If Picasso could paint in them, you can dance in them
"Try substituting UK, or England, France, Italy, for America in one of these idiotic songs. I doubt you'd feel the same way if you were from one of those countries."
I am, being half-English, and not only is it not a problem, it's actually a duty to oppose UK imperialism as much as to oppose, say, US imperialism, from the inside. There are many countries in a country, the US being a classic example. When rightists in the US say "USA: love it or leave it", they mean their particular USA. Similarly, when English conservatives lay claim to England as their own, they're defining the whole country according to the one dominant, highly reactionary, and culturally-specific part. The Amerimacka referred to in this song is a specific culturally- and politically-dominant US, the US of "American Dream" propaganda - most of the US doesn't belong to that bit, and if you can't see that and continue to identify with the dominant culture then you might need to wipe the scales from your eyes.
"We're the good guys, but not the only good guys. If we are bad, then we are no worse than any other country."
Oh, I think you're being a bit disingenuous there. The US 'projects its force' worldwide and stiffs an awful lot of folk who oppose its 'vital interests', which for imperialists is very good indeed, but for many others, particulary those getting the rough end of the pineapple from Uncle Sam, it makes it worse than most other imperialist nations simply because it's the most militarily powerful. Much as Britain was before Uncle Sam supplanted it as the world's #1 imperial power after WWII.
Until I looked at the track title I was wondering who the feck Mary Markup was...
Try substituting UK, or England, France, Italy, for America in one of these idiotic songs. I doubt you'd feel the same way if you were from one of those countries. How many artists wrote similar songs about the USSR in the 1970's, or now write about China? Answer: none. The dirty little secret is that nearly all artists, with barely an exception, are dilettantes who play to a dilettante audience. I cannot think of a single performer who has ever said anything profound on politics. Slamming the US sells records. It's cheap and vulgar but that's where the money is. The irony is that all of the artists slam the US for "corporate greed". What nonsense. If anyone takes this stuff seriously they are stupid.
We're the good guys, but not the only good guys. If we are bad, then we are no worse than any other country.
I was only gonna say, "Love their groove," and discovered that this thread is in the middle of a big political debate. As an US Navy vet, I can assure you that we're not always the good guys. Most of the time, however, we do come down on the side of truth and justice. The problem, is that lots of folks are not interested in truth and justice; they're only interested in keeping the revenue stream aimed at their own pocket.
Just my opinion, and thanks to the electrons that surrendered their freedom so I can post it onto the world wide web.
Until I looked at the track title I was wondering who the feck Mary Markup was...
(Fred doesn't hate DB after all then maybe!)
Until I looked at the track title I was wondering who the feck Mary Markup was...
Funfact #713: when the forefathers of America did not like the actions of their government, they moved to Canada.
Never look behind the curtain.
Ignorance is Strength.
We've always been the good guys and we always will.
Well said and true Conscious One.
The Patriot Act, recent McCain/Lieberman proposed legislation https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2010/03/a-detention-bill-you-ought-to-read-more-carefully/37116
and the usual enemy combatant/national security/terrorism catch-all excuse to put anyone's butt in jail if the powers that be choose so, are unfortunately overlooked by the superficially patriotic.
His Mark and Seal.
I generally prefer to stay out of these debates, but I just feel compelled to respond.
Just because there are places on the planet that are much, much worse doesn't mean we don't have problems we should address. Honestly, one has nothing to do with the other. The US is the leader of the free world, and as with any celebrity, its actions will be scrutinized to the nth degree. It is the price we pay for our spot in the limelight.
Getting back to my original point though - we should always strive to make things better, irrespective of the behaviors of those around us. We should fight for what we know is right, not shrug our shoulders and say, "well, at least we're not Yemen."
Your argument is provocative in its imagery but has no teeth.
Since the lyrics have been posted and this is a comment board I'll comment. It's simple: Since some folks hate it so much, find a better place than the Godawful U.S. and go there (as jpziller has apparently done). We won't stop you. Take the parasitic Neil Young with you, too.
Yeah, let's get rid of all those pesky folks who want our country's actions to, at least, attempt to match its rhetoric. We'll be oh so much better with a nation full of self-contented do-nothings.
Since the lyrics have been posted and this is a comment board I'll comment. It's simple: Since some folks hate it so much, find a better place than the Godawful U.S. and go there (as jpziller has apparently done). We won't stop you. Take the parasitic Neil Young with you, too.
the culture shift it created was memorable
actually left the cd in the player
some lucky renter got amerimackad all the way to their sales meeting
so?
the culture shift it created was memorable
actually left the cd in the player
some lucky renter got amerimackad all the way to their sales meeting
But I am convinced the lyrics posted everywhere else are not quite right. Maybe it's just sung differently from the lyric sheet, which is a common practice, but this is what I get (with my variations in bold):
Miss Liberty turn inna Jezebel
All a de dreams you go sell turn inna hell
Her bed of roses are filled with thorns
Her righteous robes are tattered and torn
If she had only stood for love
That would have been enough
She wouldn't have to hide in her shame
If she had only stood for love
That would have been enough
But now we are all burning in her flames
Amerimacka
Amerimacka, oh what a beautiful lie
Amerimacka
It’s like licking honey off of a knife
Amerimacka
Oh what a beautiful sight
Amerimacka
Amerimacka, oh what a beautiful lie
The land of the free built on slavery
Her conscience is in captivity
The promised land is in the lion’s den
Your culture of greed is got to end
Now we’re laying in the mud
Looking up above
‘Til water just a drop from the sky
They try to keep us in the mud
Separating us from love
But me nah go let dem conquer de I
Amerimacka
Amerimacka, oh what a beautiful lie
Amerimacka
It’s like licking honey off of a knife
Amerimacka
Oh what a beautiful sight
Amerimacka
Amerimacka, oh what a beautiful lie
Generally minor variations except of course for the closing line:
from the pointless "oh what a beautiful LIFE"
to the ironic "oh what a beautiful LIE."
(Ironic as in "licking honey off of a knife.")
AFAIK, if it isn't actually the correct lyric, it certainly ought to be!
Cheers all,
-jpz
Your version is what I always thought he was singing. It only makes sense.
But I am convinced the lyrics posted everywhere else are not quite right. Maybe it's just sung differently from the lyric sheet, which is a common practice, but this is what I get (with my variations in bold):
Miss Liberty turn inna Jezebel
All a de dreams you go sell turn inna hell
Her bed of roses are filled with thorns
Her righteous robes are tattered and torn
If she had only stood for love
That would have been enough
She wouldn't have to hide in her shame
If she had only stood for love
That would have been enough
But now we are all burning in her flames
Amerimacka
Amerimacka, oh what a beautiful lie
Amerimacka
It’s like licking honey off of a knife
Amerimacka
Oh what a beautiful sight
Amerimacka
Amerimacka, oh what a beautiful lie
The land of the free built on slavery
Her conscience is in captivity
The promised land is in the lion’s den
Your culture of greed is got to end
Now we’re laying in the mud
Looking up above
‘Til water just a drop from the sky
They try to keep us in the mud
Separating us from love
But me nah go let dem conquer de I
Amerimacka
Amerimacka, oh what a beautiful lie
Amerimacka
It’s like licking honey off of a knife
Amerimacka
Oh what a beautiful sight
Amerimacka
Amerimacka, oh what a beautiful lie
Generally minor variations except of course for the closing line:
from the pointless "oh what a beautiful LIFE"
to the ironic "oh what a beautiful LIE."
(Ironic as in "licking honey off of a knife.")
AFAIK, if it isn't actually the correct lyric, it certainly ought to be!
Cheers all,
-jpz
I used to agree...now I know the chorus by heart. This is one of those songs that can get under your skin and become part of your life, so much so that now I can divide my entire musical existence into a "before Amerimaka" and an "after Amerimacka." I never listened to electronica before; now I find the cross-over between electronica and dub fascinating...and wonder if these guys (whoever they are) were pioneers.
I always thought he was saying " Mary Marker" which is the name of a girl I went to school with years ago. LOL
I used to agree...now I know the chorus by heart. This is one of those songs that can get under your skin and become part of your life, so much so that now I can divide my entire musical existence into a "before Amerimaka" and an "after Amerimacka." I never listened to electronica before; now I find the cross-over between electronica and dub fascinating...and wonder if these guys (whoever they are) were pioneers.