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pigtail

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Posted: Jun 8, 2018 - 9:40am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
Tourists: Soon to be requiring health care:



 
I hope its the woman in red bending over taunting the creature.
kurtster

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Posted: Jun 8, 2018 - 9:13am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
Tourists: Soon to be requiring health care:



 
Santa Rosa woman gored by bison in Yellowstone National Park

Coaxial

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Posted: Jun 5, 2018 - 9:21pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
Tourists: Soon to be requiring health care:



 
{#Lol}An orthopedist is going to make a mint.
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Jun 5, 2018 - 9:18pm

Tourists: Soon to be requiring health care:


hobiejoe

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Posted: Apr 1, 2010 - 3:53am

 Manbird wrote:
I went to Ireland to see their famous collection of Saint's tonsils and gall bladders at Trinity College Library - around the corner from where the Book of Kells is on display. Saint Ignatz prosthetic nose was VERY cool!. Check it out next time you're there, it's worth the 22 euro entrance fee. Also, the National Prostate Gallery and the Irish Dental Museum are within easy walking distance from there or catch the 86a bus on Grafton St. Don't bother looking for the MOMAF (Museum of Modern Anal Fissures), it was relocated to Cork in 2008. Dang!

 
 
Well, that's only fair; Cork, after all, has played a major role in the recent history of Anal Fissures and those guys at the University of Cork know their Fissures inside out.

Manbird

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Posted: Mar 31, 2010 - 11:31pm

I went to Ireland to see their famous collection of Saint's tonsils and gall bladders at Trinity College Library - around the corner from where the Book of Kells is on display. Saint Ignatz prosthetic nose was VERY cool!. Check it out next time you're there, it's worth the 22 euro entrance fee. Also, the National Prostate Gallery and the Irish Dental Museum are within easy walking distance from there or catch the 86a bus on Grafton St. Don't bother looking for the MOMAF (Museum of Modern Anal Fissures), it was relocated to Cork in 2008. Dang!


jadewahoo

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Posted: Mar 31, 2010 - 11:10pm

 dmax wrote:
Belongs in "health care" instead

 
Maybe he will change the title to Medical Terrorism.

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Posted: Mar 31, 2010 - 11:00pm

Belongs in "health care" instead
fuh2

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Posted: Mar 31, 2010 - 9:00pm

Has anybody tried this?

Rising popularity of medical tourism reveals deterioration of U.S. healthcare system

Defenders of organized medicine are fond of saying that the United States has the best healthcare in the world, but I challenge that. I don't think we have the best healthcare in the world, I think we have the most expensive healthcare in the world. In fact, in terms of results for dollars spent, I think the United States ranks very near the bottom of the list of all industrialized nations. We get less actual health than anyone else for each dollar that we spend.

This realization is now hitting the general public as well, and they are increasingly leaving this country to find offshore locations and assess quality medical care and surgical procedures elsewhere. This phenomenon is called "medical tourism."

In medical tourism, patients who might normally undergo some sort of medical procedure in the United States, usually a costly surgical procedure, instead fly to the Philippines, Thailand or other countries to have the procedures done there.

As a result, they save an enormous amount of money. Offshore medical procedures can be performed for as little as one-tenth the cost of what would normally be charged here in the United States. And yet the facilities offshore are state of the art. These are modern hospitals that often are newer and have much better technology and equipment than hospitals in the United States. They are typically staffed by Western doctors and surgeons trained in Western medicine, and they provide equal or greater quality surgical care than U.S. hospitals. These surgical procedures are performed with the same technology and expertise, yet cost a fraction of the price.

For example, a knee replacement surgery in a high-tech hospital in the Philippines performed by Western trained surgeons might only cost you $6,000. Here in the United States you're probably looking at $50,000. Heart bypass surgery in Asia costs around $10,000. In the US, it's $60,000 to $80,000. Gastric bypass surgery in the U.S. can cost $10,000 to $20,000. Overseas it can be done for well under $5,000.

So where do the cost savings come from? How come these hospitals offshore can offer these services at much lower prices? The answer lies in the economics of healthcare in the United States and the amount of fraud and waste that is present in the U.S. healthcare system. I've spoken to many MDs over the years, and some insist that as much as 80% of all healthcare dollars that go through their office cover nothing but paperwork.

Many workers in the health care industry are basically getting paid to shuffle paper around. The health insurance companies are paid to deny health claims and the government workers at Medicare and Medicaid offices are paid to find new ways to deny payments to doctors and hospitals for services rendered. Thus, doctors' offices and hospitals have to employ entire armies of people to sit around and reclassify procedures in ways that can get paid by insurance companies, Medicare and Medicaid. It's a massive waste of time, money and effort.

In the U.S. healthcare system, it's a paperwork nightmare. And there is a paperwork war taking place. All of this is a result of health insurance, both taxpayer-funded health insurance and private health insurance. In other words, things would be a lot simpler if people just price-shopped some of these procedures and paid out of their own pocket, rather than having to go through a monstrous bureaucratic system of paper shufflers.

As a medical tourist in another country, you eliminate these paperwork shufflers. And right there, you can save as much as 80% right off the bat. Because now, your dollars are actually going to the surgeons, anesthesiologists and other hospital workers who are attending to you during your surgical procedure. Whereas in the United States, your money is going to the insurance company and then the insurance company money is being used to pay paper shufflers.

Another reason these surgical procedures are so much more affordable in Asia or the Philippines is because of the liability issue. In the United States, doctors and hospitals must carry extremely expensive medical malpractice insurance policies. And patients seem to love to sue in the United States. In contrast, when you undergo a surgical procedure as a medical tourist in an offshore hospital, you sign paperwork that says you agree not to sue under certain conditions. Thus, you save a fortune by essentially not funding the legal fees, settlements and malpractice insurance costs normally found in a U.S.-based healthcare practice.

When you combine these two savings - the paperwork shuffling reduction and the medical malpractice lawsuits - and you get an incredible deal for your dollar.

Some people might ask, "What if something goes wrong during the surgery?" Well, here you have the reputation of the hospital and the surgeon at stake. They know that they must offer you outstanding, high-quality service. Otherwise, word will spread via the internet and elsewhere, and tourists won't come visit their hospital.

Medical tourism hospitals in the Philippines and other countries actually have to meet a higher standard, because they know there's more on the line. They have to give you such a high-quality experience with such outstanding results that you go back home to the United States and tell 20 people. Because when you do that, they know they're going to get more customers, and this is great word of mouth marketing for that hospital.  ....................................


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