Sounds likea track from  The Ruthles

 ksschapp wrote:

^This

 Relayer wrote:


It always bugged me what a hypocrite he was.

Searing slide solo from his old buddy George. 

still apropos after 52 years.

Nothing John Lennon did post-Beatles matches what he did pre-post-Beatles.

I am not familiar with this song. When I heard it it, I thought it was some alt rock from maybe 90s to present day. I was intrigued and attracted to it, so I looked up -- and found out it was Lennon. Another proof how much they were ahead of time, and how much they contributed to rock music.

People don't want truth. They want what confirms their beliefs.

 hanssachs wrote:


Or it has.

Bashing hypocrites...from a hypocrite. Cute.

 dflee wrote:

I wonder if he regarded the less polished production as a feature, not a bug, and a welcome departure from the standards of his previous band.

new to me, strangely.
love the lyrics.

reminds me of ween's mutilated lips

 hayduke2 wrote:
 

Your sooo right......Sadly!

I think that is as close to god and elvis we will get

While very, very good I wish John would have done a better job of producing his work.
It deserves so much better.

Wish he were still around. Miss him for what he could have written. This song is stronger reading than hearing cause I can't get past the recording. It just doesn't capture the man and I'd bet if he were around wed'e get a better version.

"By neurotic, psychotic, pig-headed politicians
All I want is the truth
Just gimme some truth
No short-haired, yellow-bellied, son of tricky dicky
Is gonna mother hubbard soft soap me
With just a pocketful of hope"

John Lennon was awesome (knew the likely rise of schizophrenic, ego-centric, paranoiac, prima-donnas to the top of the pile in DC)

love this man...this is one of his bad ones and it is still a solid 9...hard to imagine that kind of talent in one human being

 thewiseking wrote: 
Trump is Nixon Walking Dead.

 thewiseking wrote: 
Yup

these times the truth is hard to take 

Thanks John - May you RIP!  10++++++

 OneSsrop wrote: 
VERY! After this election....

First casualty in every war is the truth! 

How appropriate is this right now!?

this needs to be blasted out at them sorry political conventions, yes at both sides.. 

 treatment_bound wrote: 
You can't HANDLE the troof!

All I want is THE TROOF!

BERNIE

Harrison's slide guitar on this really compliments the vocal & lyrics!

 Chrisjea wrote: 
along with the Orange Haired, Yellow Belly Son of Tricky Dicky?

 thewiseking wrote: 
That would drive Uncle Bill and Hillary crazy

sounds like Lennon wrote these lyrics in 2016 
nothing new under the sun 

Now THIS should be Bernie's campaign song!

Full out, Balls to the Wall, Johnny Rhythm!!!

Near-Beatles reunion, btw; Ringo, George and John.
Close as we ever got.

Rope for all GOP shitheels.

Could we handle it?

We are having a federal election up here Canuckistan.

Would somebody please tell me what the term 'truth' means. 

Never heard Lennon so punky. First Lennon song I really like :) The rest I can appreciate, but I don't like it...

 keller1 wrote: 
Lennon was on his way to becoming a more mellow nicer person as reflected in his last album I believe. A rotten shame some delusional asshole shot him.

Still rings true.

Nobody does righteous indignation better than JL.  His voice cuts right through the center of the universe.

 MortimerS wrote: 

"It would have been nice if  had time to look in the mirror with age" --- well said, Mortimer.


Lennon was capable of being a complete asshole --- check out Howard Kaylan's recollection of him here:

   https://www.classichitsandoldies.com/v2/2013/06/24/the-turtles-howard-kaylan-discusses-new-memoir-shares-unflattering-lennon-recollections/

 
kingart wrote: 
Thinking that John was a bit of a long haired neurotic egocentric prima donna himself. Having been one myself with far less reason I mean.

It would have been nice if he'd had time to look in the mirror with age. It would have been nice to see what he was about now.

Stuff happens,

No sore headed son of Dickey Cheney's gonna....

 hanssachs wrote: 
If i can disagree, it has not aged a bit, all we want really is some truth.

 hanssachs wrote: 
I disagree. If the song subject is the focus, it remains exactly relevant. We have more neurotic egocentric prima donna pinheaded politicians than ever. 

Yeah, sure, John, you tell 'em ... this one hasn't aged particularly well.

 gjr wrote: 
......... ditto :((

god i miss john.........

I left L.A. and moved to Santa Cruz in the 60s because no one gave a second look to my long hair in northern cal. now in the 20s I get crap....... go figure..... miss john's honesty, few others have the balls. McMURTRY  comes to mind.

Music that will be played forever.

marvelous...
 

Oh, man... 10 + 10 + 10... 

 ThePoose wrote: 
This guy's head was so far up his own butt the only visceral reaction I have is..."Not again"

I liked George's guitar, too!

Everybody in my church loves this song, and this whole album...
 

 ThePoose wrote: 

Amen brother.... or sister

I love how Eddie Vedder updated the "Tricky Dickey" words in this ah...scathing indictment of the system... for Pearl Jam's live cover during the "Georgie Porgie" years.

Now listen to every track of John Lennon-Platic Ono Band—one of the greatest
works of musical art ever created. If you do not have a visceral reaction to this work,
you have a stone heart.

Best music I've been lucky enough to receive in several days, thank you RP, and bless the strong memories and loving art of John Lennon

Not exactly John Lennon's best day in the studio.....

 Cynaera wrote: 
You wrote something political.  Gotcha!   Taboot, I am for much more gun control.  Hah! 

Whenever I see an image of JL or hear one of his tunes...it saddens me to think that the world he often sung about has gotten further from what he always envisioned. I long for the innocence of the earlier years and the naiveté that sometimes bought us time to dream about peace being something that everyone no matter what upbringing or creed could desire and pay forward. I miss you John Lennon.

Love the message on this one, I just really don't like the actual music. 

there is music which tends to sound dated after some years
there is music who remains "fresh" for decades
and there is music which feels like getting better and better through time. almost everything john lennon did belongs to this latter category

as for weapons: cynaera, i could not disagree more: the selfrighteousness and stupidness is not on the side of people (or politicians) who wants to rescrict the availability of weapons. it´s on the side of lobbyists who succeed again and again in making people believe that being allowed of carrying a weapon has something to do with freedom of self-defense.

the fact is: weapons kill. and the more weapons are available the more people are killed. it´s nothing more than a mathematical function.
compare the number of people shot in the United States and in Canada, and compare the number of people carrying weapons in USA and CDN, and you have the proof.

 Carl wrote: 
And your first paragraph wasn't serious?  If people want weapons, they'll get them, regardless of whatever laws (or lack thereof) exist. I don't like guns. I fear them. I sort of know how to fire one.  But I don't want a bunch of self-righteous politicians and fundamentalists dictating whether or not I can have a weapon to defend myself. Maybe the screening process.... oh, who are we kidding here? As I said - if a person wants a weapon, they can find it. It's like Prohibition. "No alcohol allowed." And of course, there's a guy around the corner saying, "Hey - you want booze?  Follow me."  Human nature (I don't like human nature, most of the time.)

I think that whole "We're more popular (greater) than Jesus" was, of course, blown out of proportion. Who knew at the time that every utterance would be taken as God's truth? It was a younger generation, but there will always be that slant between the words spoken and what the media portrays.

Every time a Lennon song plays, I cry, even if it's a happy song. I cry because the life I have now is zero-idealistic. This world is all about money and power. It's not about peace and love and joy - and that's why I cry. All Lennon wanted was truth. I don't think he got it before he died, but I sincerely hope we who survive him get it. I hope that something can break through this horrible division that keeps the upper-echelon totally removed from those who struggle every day to survive. I hope for hope.

Um, and to keep this on track - I still love this song, and the late John Lennon. He truly was a visionary who backed what he believed.

 

John Lennon at his absolute peak!

 Cynaera wrote: 
I wonder if someone who was shot through the back with four hollow point rounds and lived for a while after can rest in peace. I'm so glad that there are no laws to prevent nutcases like his murderer to easily obtain concealable firearms and super-lethal ammo.

On a more serious note ... the Beatles were chastised for comparing their popularity to Jesus Christ. Yet, John's later songs project a message that echos Jesus Christ's. They would have gotten along well together, methinks. Each died a violent death and are resurrected (in a sense). After 30 years, I miss him more than ever.

John Lennon 1969 Photo Session  by rising70
https://www.flickr.com/photos/the_first_rays/

All rights reserved

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On the 9th, Lennon would have been 70 years old.   His music still carries as much weight now as it did when he wrote it, which makes him a sort of visionary.  Had he survived that fateful day, what amazing music would we be gifted with today?  Rest in peace, Mr. Lennon.  You've left a whale of a legacy, and some pretty big shoes to fill. Of course, no one can.  You were one of a kind.  And we miss you.

he is so much better when he's angry.

I was just reading "Strange Days Indeed—the 70's the Golden Age of Paranoia" this song describes that era for me.

 Rafter101 wrote: 
John Lennon played his cards close to the vest. And this song is one of those cards. Ever duplicated, never matched. I miss you, my friend.

JL by ~LostMyBand
©2005-2010 ~LostMyBand

acrylic on canvas 48" x 60"

The US album version of Generation X had this Lennon' song as the leadoff cut, and dare I say, the young, snotty boys nailed it.

Funny—I'm listening to this song and thought it was maybe T-Rex or something. I checked RP—JOHN LENNON!   I thought I knew every song he did during his solo years. What a treat.

One of my first & favourite LP..

 Otomi wrote: 

More pertinent than ever.

A quick look around confirms that people aren't really interested in truth very much...

A song for our times too.

As we are now seeing with the climate change debate, "the truth" is an evasive little bugger.

Lennon was a young man when he wrote songs like this and Imagine.  I wonder, too, if he were still alive —- he'd be 68 now —- if  "the truth" would be so obvious to him.

 romeotuma wrote: 
I only ever heard the old Generation X punk  (Billy Idol's early band) version of this...how did I miss that this was a John Lennon song?  Duh!

 romeotuma wrote: 
It is.  John was an ass.  And he was a god. 

Wouldn't it be fun to have him around right now.  Bet he'd have a few things to say ;-)

...yes, and pocket full of "hope" works well with the current regime ..and we mustn't forget "I did not have sex with that woman". redstorm wrote: 

 Danimal174 wrote: 
The content, and the anger expressed therein, are a big part of this song. The connection between Bush's lies and the lyrics "I've had enough of reading things by neurotic, psychotic, pig-headed politicians" and "No short-haired, yellow-bellied son of Tricky Dicky's gonna Mother Hubbard soft soap me with just a pocket full of hope" is quite pertinent. The song is meant to provoke such reflections.

 Danimal174 wrote: 

You are free to skip any posts that get your panties in a bunch.

Love this song, wonderful rant. I embedded a video of it in my latest blog post.

 Danimal174 wrote: 
Indeed!  Brilliant song.

Jesus! Stop threadjacking songs to discuss politics! There's a whole separate section on RP for that (see "Forum").

Sorry...had to vent. Now, back to the music.

 rdo wrote: 
The feared thing is interesting, and is on all fours with a fairly lengthy defense of the Iraq invasion that our good friends at the National Review published.

Don't get me wrong —- I would love it if it could be proven that Bush lied.

I happen to think that he did, but as Colin Powell once said, "Tell me first what you know and what you don't know, and then you can tell me what you think."

What we know is that the WMD and 9/11 arguments remain unproven, and that the Bushies will argue to their last breath that they acted based on the information they had at the time.

You may not believe that —- I certainly don't —- but only Dubya will ever really know if he lied or not.

 keller1 wrote: 
The invasion was justified by Bush on there actually being WMD in Iraq.  The administration did make equivocations, that's true, but that is just twaddle. They claimed to the American people and the world that they knew .  They did not know.  It's more like they feared (we all did).  How is that not a lie?

 rdo wrote: 

Easy for you to say.

And I reiterate, it's just never as simple as "Bush lied".  If my decoder ring is accurate, you appear to be saying that that's unlikely.  But we'll never know, will we?

 keller1 wrote: 

correction:  we cannot be certain that he knew that there were NOT WMD in Iraq, he probably in fact thought that they were there.  We can, however, be 100% certain that he did not know for certain that they were there (because they were in fact not there).  It's not really that difficult. 

 Otomi wrote: 
"Bush lied" as a for instance:  It can't be categorically denied that he didn't, or proven that he did.

My head hurts.  I wish "truth" was as easy to discern as our colleague RadioDoc says.

 RadioDoc wrote: 
I think it's the other way around: some affirmations can be discarded as probably false, and everything that hasn't been discarded in this manner can be held as probably (or possibly) true, with the provision that the "truth" thus obtained shall be subject to revision. This is how science works, and science is the best method our species has come up with for bringing our minds a bit more into harmony with external reality.

Lennon's lyrics, however, seem to be referring to "truth" in another sense, i.e. statements that are not deliberate lies. He was probably saying "Cut the crap and get real" in a more refined, poetic way.

 keller1 wrote: 
Every sentence he utters is a $20 million lie. Want the truth? Thom Hartmann  will give you the truth and nothing but the truth.

 RadioDoc wrote: 
Yeah, it should be that simple.  Good f**king luck proving it.

As a for instance, let's posit that Rush Limbaugh is an obese, drug addicted college dropout. 

Discuss.

 firerytrigon wrote:Truth is what hits you in the head as you attempt to drive through a concrete wall at 60 MPH because it's nothing more than a mental construct

Truth is true.  Everything else is false.  Pretty simple, really. 

 (Yeah I know I'm dragging up a year-old comment.)

 winter wrote: 

Not better or worse — just different.  His music changed as his life changed.

He was far better as a Beatle, IMO.

 firerytrigon wrote: 
Yeah ...

But then, as another post has pointed out, there's just plain f**king lies, which got the US into the Iraq war.

The lyrics to this tune, while heartfelt, aren't that great.  Check out Magic by Springsteen.

 karljonasson wrote:

 

Here, here.

Amen to that...No absolute truth=the ultimate lie.  It simply is not logical... karljonasson wrote:

 

firerytrigon wrote: Well, there it is. The greatest psychological problem of our age (the insistence that nothing is certain, knowledge is impossible, our perceptions are not fit to perceive reality) declaring itself the solution. It is our tendency to swallow crap like this which is the 'problem with most humans'.

groucho wrote: I'm with you, Groucho. This was the best cover Gen X (or Billy Idol) ever recorded.

That album cover seems understated, but is actually pretty cool.

lmic wrote: don't forget WMD in Iraq

ed wrote: I get Hungary? I'll take it!

firerytrigon wrote: Elliot Spitzer with the Mr. Clean act. Enron execs telling Congress they didn't dump their stocks. "Smoking doesn't cause cancer." "I am not a crook." All patently not truths. Deconstructivism/revisionism/perspectivism ("there is no ultimate reality") is a fun noodle, but let's face it, a bald-faced lie is a bald-faced lie. Gimme some truth.

BlueHeronDruid wrote: A lot of truth to this complaint, but I think it's because Lennon did not want his anger and his frustration to sound good. When you explode in rage, you tend not to worry too much about your grammar...and for those of you who remember or have heard of Richard Nixon's personal little war on John Lennon, rage was an appropriate response on the singer's part.

prickelpit96 wrote:AMEN

KermitDfrog wrote:Sam Harris????? You can't be serious..... Christ - this is John..... OK .... John .... Now Eddie Vedder's version.......

"Rather than love, than money, than fame, give me truth"-Henry David Thoreau

sounds like a cop out pal...or B.S whichever you preferfirerytrigon wrote: