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Eddie Vedder — Rise
Album: Into The Wild
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Released: 2007
Length: 2:32
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Such is the way of the world
You can never know
Just where to put all your faith
And how will it grow?
Gonna rise up
Burning black holes in dark memories
Gonna rise up
Turning mistakes into gold...

Such is the passage of time
Too fast to fold
Suddenly swallowed by signs
Lo and behold
Gonna rise up
Find my direction magnetically
Gonna rise up
Throw down my ace in the hole
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 wifesboyfriend wrote:

I'm deeply ashamed to say I like this.



Why?
Posted 2 months ago by coyote620    [ Reply ]
Something in my eye with this one..
Posted 4 months ago by jmkate    [ Reply ]
 Chewie wrote:

That mandolin is exquisite



I'm really trying, I swear, but I'm just not a fan of the Mandolin.
Posted 7 months ago by Kajukenbo    [ Reply ]
 wifesboyfriend wrote:

I'm deeply ashamed to say I like this.



Never be sorry for liking music in any form. Music is life.
Posted 11 months ago by Rickhgale    [ Reply ]
Grew up listening to Pearl Jam and Eddie Vedder is simply amazing.
Posted 1 year ago by linnex-    [ Reply ]
Thanks to RP playing this song I learned about the movie Into the Wild many years ago and loved it. If anyone hasnt seen it you must.
Posted 1 year ago by renegade_X    [ Reply ]
when he does his vibrato it always sounds to me like he's yodeling...
Posted 1 year ago by lily34    [ Reply ]
I'm deeply ashamed to say I like this.
Posted 1 year ago by wifesboyfriend    [ Reply ]
8 --==>> 9.
Posted 2 years ago by SpencerAR    [ Reply ]
 PCHarter wrote:

It just doesn't get Eddie Vedder than this !



Always a place at my dinner table for Eddie Vedder
Posted 2 years ago by laserace    [ Reply ]
 KurtfromLaQuinta wrote:

Interesting.
I want Eddie's song from the Big Fish soundtrack "Man of the Hour" played at mine.
What is it about his songs?


I want Wolves played at mine.
Posted 2 years ago by LizK    [ Reply ]
I can thoroughly recommend Mr Vedder's album Ukelele Songs. Perfect for staring at the stars.
Posted 2 years ago by mralimccarley    [ Reply ]
 thewiseking wrote:


just strummin chords. You need to listen to some Bluegrass 



Yeah, but it WORKS for this song!! ...sometimes simplicity is beauty!!
Posted 2 years ago by joejennings    [ Reply ]
 Chewie wrote:

That mandolin is exquisite



just strummin chords. You need to listen to some Bluegrass 
Posted 3 years ago by thewiseking    [ Reply ]
Just the best Soundtrack Ever Thank you Eddie & Sean Penn X
Posted 3 years ago by deniseperry    [ Reply ]
 elderg wrote:

I was a 60 something college chemistry prof (and hack guitar player) trying to discuss music with a 20 something music major who was dating one of my students.  I was curious to see if we had any common music interests.  She mentioned learning a song on the uke from the movie Into The Wild.  I had heard of the book, but had not seen the movie.  Later when I did some searching, I found it was EV (I like PJ) and the instrument was a mando.  I actually bought a mando just to learn this song.  I didn't even know the tuning or how may strings it had.   She later ended up singing Bob Dylan and Joni Mitchell songs with my student/faculty garage band at a charity event.  I am always amazed at how music can inspire and bring different people together.  I can now (sort of) play Losing My Religion, Kings Highway, and Galway Girl, again with students, family, and friends of all ages and backgrounds, who have expressed interest in the music.  Have yet to learn The Battle of Evermore.  My family hopes I don't meet anyone interested in me learning It's a Long Way to the Top (If You Wanna Rock 'n Roll)!



I thought it was a ukulele, no? FYI EV did a whole album of ukulele songs after this. 
Posted 3 years ago by SmackDaddy    [ Reply ]
Lawd make it stop! Just when you thought no one could torture a mandolin better'n Peter Buck, well yeah... along comes Eddie Vedder. 
Posted 3 years ago by Grayson    [ Reply ]
Eddie's voice reminds me of a story about Sir Thomas Beecham. The orchestra needed a note to tune to, so he asked the soprano to oblige. She had a wide vibrato, so 'Tommy' said 'ladies and gentlemen - take your pick'!
Posted 4 years ago by kbs    [ Reply ]
 kazoo wrote:

I always thought it was an ukulele. Listening again I'm still fairly sure it is. Sounds like nylon strings and has more sustain than a mandolin. Does anyone know for sure?
 
I'm pretty sure it's the mandolin, in fact the notes for the soundtrack don't mention a uke at all. 

Performer[edit] Eddie Vedder – vocals, guitar, bass, mandolin (4), banjo (2), piano, organ, drums, percussion, producer, mixing, layout, design
All the same, this is the album that made me a fan of Vedder; he put the cherry on top of the movie for sure.  Long Live RP!! 
Posted 4 years ago by lizardking    [ Reply ]
 Chewie wrote:
That mandolin is exquisite
 
I always thought it was an ukulele. Listening again I'm still fairly sure it is. Sounds like nylon strings and has more sustain than a mandolin. Does anyone know for sure?
Posted 4 years ago by kazoo    [ Reply ]
 PCHarter wrote:
It just doesn't get Eddie Vedder than this !
 
It's 9:40 AM but it still took me longer than I'm willing to admit
Posted 4 years ago by ExploitingChaos    [ Reply ]
Read somewhere they had to remove the van from the Alaskan wilderness cos it was rotting and people were needing rescued trying to get to it. Sad film but beautiful
Posted 4 years ago by cloudymcloudface    [ Reply ]
 PCHarter wrote:
It just doesn't get Eddie Vedder than this !
 

Vedder Than Eddie?
Posted 4 years ago by SmackDaddy    [ Reply ]
Well that was interesting I had to check the comments re Mr Vedder because you know it's EV and the recent ones were more positive than usual. Just goes to show.. BTW I like the song
Posted 4 years ago by janac13    [ Reply ]
That mandolin is exquisite
Posted 4 years ago by Chewie    [ Reply ]
 Balthazar50 wrote:
I want this played at my funeral.
 
Interesting.
I want Eddie's song from the Big Fish soundtrack "Man of the Hour" played at mine.
What is it about his songs?
Posted 5 years ago by KurtfromLaQuinta    [ Reply ]
Don’t love all of Eddie’s stuff, but this one? This one I love.
Posted 5 years ago by jukes1    [ Reply ]
Great movie! Great soundtrack! Eddie Vedder is just amazing. 
Posted 5 years ago by DanielM    [ Reply ]
 mdnlsn wrote:
You know, he's not a half bad mandolin player. 
 

You mean he's just a little bad at the mandolin?
Posted 5 years ago by Oldest_City_Dude    [ Reply ]
You know, he's not a half bad mandolin player. 
Posted 5 years ago by mdnlsn    [ Reply ]
 PCHarter wrote:
It just doesn't get Eddie Vedder than this !
 
You win this thread! 
Posted 5 years ago by BCarn    [ Reply ]
 SmackDaddy wrote:

They all are. Sorry not everyone gets a hard-on over the Beatles.
 
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? They certainly do!
Posted 5 years ago by BCarn    [ Reply ]
 Laptopdog wrote:

A head wrecking Beatles song? Really? Really??
 
They all are. Sorry not everyone gets a hard-on over the Beatles.
Posted 5 years ago by SmackDaddy    [ Reply ]
I want this played at my funeral.
Posted 5 years ago by Balthazar50    [ Reply ]
I was a 60 something college chemistry prof (and hack guitar player) trying to discuss music with a 20 something music major who was dating one of my students.  I was curious to see if we had any common music interests.  She mentioned learning a song on the uke from the movie Into The Wild.  I had heard of the book, but had not seen the movie.  Later when I did some searching, I found it was EV (I like PJ) and the instrument was a mando.  I actually bought a mando just to learn this song.  I didn't even know the tuning or how may strings it had.   She later ended up singing Bob Dylan and Joni Mitchell songs with my student/faculty garage band at a charity event.  I am always amazed at how music can inspire and bring different people together.  I can now (sort of) play Losing My Religion, Kings Highway, and Galway Girl, again with students, family, and friends of all ages and backgrounds, who have expressed interest in the music.  Have yet to learn The Battle of Evermore.  My family hopes I don't meet anyone interested in me learning It's a Long Way to the Top (If You Wanna Rock 'n Roll)!
Posted 5 years ago by elderg    [ Reply ]
Never get tired of Eddie's voice. Great album, great film.
Posted 5 years ago by nikoko    [ Reply ]
I want this played at my funeral.
Posted 5 years ago by Balthazar50    [ Reply ]
It just doesn't get Eddie Vedder than this !
Posted 5 years ago by PCHarter    [ Reply ]
 greiffenstein wrote:

that movie shook me like few others.  I have always been an adventurous person.  I related with Alexander (nee Christopher) on so many levels...then he ended up trapped by his own foolishness.  Heartbreaking movie because you fall in love with the guy then you are so disappointed by his ultimate vulnerability.  What I learned was to understand risks before taking them.  I hope I do.

 
One of my favorite movies and books.  Funny, I just watched the movie last night and made a note that I need to get the Soundtrack and now, well, thank you RP.  You did it again.  :)
Posted 6 years ago by AhhtheMusic    [ Reply ]
Is this mix so lean that I'm hearing these tracks repeated after a few hours? I didn't check the song listing.
Posted 6 years ago by michaelgmitchell    [ Reply ]
That guy gets me everytime !
Posted 6 years ago by Sbed    [ Reply ]
 Dazzerb wrote:
phew....a head wrecking Beatles song was playing so I hit PSD and this came on.  Happy now.  {#Roflol}

 

 
It may be time to get your head checked.
Posted 6 years ago by Webfoot    [ Reply ]
 Dazzerb wrote:
phew....a head wrecking Beatles song was playing so I hit PSD and this came on.  Happy now.  {#Roflol}

 

 
A head wrecking Beatles song? Really? Really??
Posted 6 years ago by Laptopdog    [ Reply ]
beautiful!
Posted 6 years ago by markus333    [ Reply ]
 bseib wrote:

That's a great perspective.

 
that movie shook me like few others.  I have always been an adventurous person.  I related with Alexander (nee Christopher) on so many levels...then he ended up trapped by his own foolishness.  Heartbreaking movie because you fall in love with the guy then you are so disappointed by his ultimate vulnerability.  What I learned was to understand risks before taking them.  I hope I do.
Posted 6 years ago by greiffenstein    [ Reply ]
 Nadine wrote:

 bseib wrote:

Agreed. The movie struck me only as an exposition of the foolishness.


I don't know about foolishness. I didn't like the character. It wasn't really a joy watching that movie. It was like watching a loooooooooong car crash in slow motion. That guy is a tragic person. What I "learned" from that movie is, that it's important to treat your offsprings good. Connect with them. Respect them. So that they don't need to run away like maniacs and end up so extremely lost and isolated like he did. Good company exists.
 
That's a great perspective.
Posted 7 years ago by bseib    [ Reply ]
 Webfoot wrote:

Isn't it a mandolin?

 

Yes.  The wikipedia article for this album lists Eddie Vedder on mandolin (among other instruments).  It says nothing about a uke.
Posted 8 years ago by Hannio    [ Reply ]
 dimar wrote:
I especially love this song because I loved the film.  I lived in a schoolbus for nine years in Northern Wisconsin and SURVIVED. Chris was doin' it all wrong, sad to say.  

 
He made mistakes no doubt - although - isn't Alaska more of a challenge than Wisconsin?
Posted 8 years ago by sgw007    [ Reply ]
Great album...great book!
https://www.jonkrakauer.com/books/into-the-wild-tr
Posted 8 years ago by dtheb    [ Reply ]
I especially love this song because I loved the film.  I lived in a schoolbus for nine years in Northern Wisconsin and SURVIVED. Chris was doin' it all wrong, sad to say.  
Posted 8 years ago by dimar    [ Reply ]
 dsd wrote:
beautiful song....beautiful film

 
I know not of what you speak, I will search for a film related to this
Posted 8 years ago by Skydog    [ Reply ]
 dsd wrote:
beautiful song....beautiful film

 
Great album.
Posted 8 years ago by ThirdRail_33    [ Reply ]
phew....a head wrecking Beatles song was playing so I hit PSD and this came on.  Happy now.  {#Roflol}

 
Posted 9 years ago by Dazzerb    [ Reply ]
beautiful song....beautiful film
Posted 9 years ago by dsd    [ Reply ]
 Nadine wrote:

I don't know about foolishness. I didn't like the character. It wasn't really a joy watching that movie. It was like watching a loooooooooong car crash in slow motion. That guy is a tragic person. What I "learned" from that movie is, that it's important to treat your offsprings good. Connect with them. Respect them. So that they don't need to run away like maniacs and end up so extremely lost and isolated like he did. Good company exists.
 
Yeah, like watching an addict self-destruct.
Posted 9 years ago by BBoyes    [ Reply ]
2nd time I've seen Emile Hirsch's photo (that's him on top of the bus) today.  He's all over the news right now as he just got 15 days in the joint for choking a female film exec. at Sundance last January.

He's blaming the alcohol. 
Posted 9 years ago by treatment_bound    [ Reply ]
What a beautiful story that was, In To The Wild. Pretty sure Jerry Hannan from San Rafael wrote some of those songs...
 
Posted 9 years ago by hempmandan    [ Reply ]
 bseib wrote:

Agreed. The movie struck me only as an exposition of the foolishness.

 
I don't know about foolishness. I didn't like the character. It wasn't really a joy watching that movie. It was like watching a loooooooooong car crash in slow motion. That guy is a tragic person. What I "learned" from that movie is, that it's important to treat your offsprings good. Connect with them. Respect them. So that they don't need to run away like maniacs and end up so extremely lost and isolated like he did. Good company exists.
Posted 9 years ago by Nadine    [ Reply ]
Happy 50th birthday, EV!   {#Sunny}
Posted 10 years ago by Reckoner978    [ Reply ]
Loved the film and I love Eddie Vedder's music with it. Could watch the film over and over again and wonder how we somehow went wrong.
Posted 10 years ago by svensktokan    [ Reply ]
Rode past the Vedder Canal 2 days ago and thought of this album. Serendipity.
Posted 10 years ago by TerryS    [ Reply ]
 hayduke2 wrote:
Vedder's beautiful song hit me on this overcast morning, the subtle vocals and ukelely brought to mind memories of William Hurt in the film, destroyed by the loss of his son… yeah that still gets me man, phew I'm all weepy

 
Isn't it a mandolin?
Posted 10 years ago by Webfoot    [ Reply ]
Vedder's beautiful song hit me on this overcast morning, the subtle vocals and ukelely brought to mind memories of William Hurt in the film, destroyed by the loss of his son… yeah that still gets me man, phew I'm all weepy
Posted 10 years ago by hayduke2    [ Reply ]
linzie wrote:
Thought the movie was good, and was touched by it. I like that they stuck as close as they could to the actual events, right down to the bus.  I have mixed emotions about the 'stupidity' of the guy.....thought it took some balls and sacrifice to get as far as he did. Very motivated to do what he was feeling, thought out well or not...

 

Agreed… {#Yes}
Posted 10 years ago by kanga311    [ Reply ]
nice vocals and ukelele sound.....happy to hear this de temps en temps
Posted 10 years ago by Jannne    [ Reply ]
Always love his voice. Such feeling.
Posted 11 years ago by ChrisH    [ Reply ]
 Cynaera wrote:

Me too! I spent ten minutes trying to put my thoughts into words, but you just did it. And Eddie Vedder is really NOT a dork. He's a thinker and a dreamer and a planner. Very intelligent and articulate, and he believes in the world and not just one country over another.

If humankind is gonna think outside the box, I really think Mr. Vedder's viewpoints would be a place to start...

 

miss you so much, Cynaera...  love this song...
 
Posted 11 years ago by Lazarus    [ Reply ]
 vanmas wrote:
I'm not a big Pearl Jam lover...
But this is very good!
Even as the album and the movie!

 
Certainly not a PJ song but it is damned fine.
Posted 11 years ago by oldsaxon    [ Reply ]
 oldsaxon wrote:

Hardly a song PJ would have done...but yeah, it's good.

 

Maybe that is why I like it.{#Lol}
Posted 11 years ago by sirdroseph    [ Reply ]
Thought the movie was good, and was touched by it. I like that they stuck as close as they could to the actual events, right down to the bus.  I have mixed emotions about the 'stupidity' of the guy.....thought it took some balls and sacrifice to get as far as he did. Very motivated to do what he was feeling, thought out well or not...
Posted 11 years ago by linzie    [ Reply ]
 -Cor- wrote:
Thinking that the book and the movie are a glorification of a foolish individual. Liking the music nonetheless.

 
Agreed. The movie struck me only as an exposition of the foolishness.
Posted 11 years ago by bseib    [ Reply ]
AMAZING movie, and what a OST man, awesome combination,..if you haven't, go watch it, NOW.
Posted 11 years ago by aristoteles    [ Reply ]
Fabulous + 1,000,000 other explatives
Posted 11 years ago by Spiderwoman    [ Reply ]
Thinking that the book and the movie are a glorification of a foolish individual. Liking the music nonetheless.
Posted 11 years ago by -Cor-    [ Reply ]
Completely agree....


Posted 11 years ago by ckcotton    [ Reply ]
Read the book Into the Wild then listen to Vedder's album.  Remarkable how he managed to capture the spirit of the book so well.  Love it, thanks Bill
Posted 12 years ago by oilydwarf    [ Reply ]
 vanmas wrote:
I'm not a big Pearl Jam lover...
But this is very good!
Even as the album and the movie!
 
Hardly a song PJ would have done...but yeah, it's good.
Posted 12 years ago by oldsaxon    [ Reply ]
I remember  going to see the Foo Fighters open for Pearl Jam back in the day and leaving after the FF set as I thought PJ was so boring (and still do).

On the other hand, this album and movie gave me a new found respect for Eddie Vedder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm8oxC24QZc

  vanmas wrote:
I'm not a big Pearl Jam lover...
But this is very good!
Even as the album and the movie!
 


Posted 12 years ago by bushrat    [ Reply ]
Thank you!
Posted 12 years ago by ShirleyEva    [ Reply ]
I'm not a big Pearl Jam lover...
But this is very good!
Even as the album and the movie!
Posted 12 years ago by vanmas    [ Reply ]
 coloradojohn wrote:
Having been to and through the very magnetic fields where the man that is the inspiration for this song met his power-down and switch-through, it floors me how now the words of this song poke through it all and link to a flood of synchronicity in my research and thoughts and all I can do is catch my breath as I hear the cascade of lovely chords that mark the start of Nick Drake's trippy Hazy Jane...
 
wow dude, thanks for helpin me slow down this morning...  very kind of cool
Posted 12 years ago by hayduke2    [ Reply ]
Having been to and through the very magnetic fields where the man that is the inspiration for this song met his power-down and switch-through, it floors me how now the words of this song poke through it all and link to a flood of synchronicity in my research and thoughts and all I can do is catch my breath as I hear the cascade of lovely chords that mark the start of Nick Drake's trippy Hazy Jane...
Posted 12 years ago by coloradojohn    [ Reply ]
rest in peace, Chris McCandless
 

Posted 12 years ago by Desimia    [ Reply ]
THIS
Posted 13 years ago by contractor07    [ Reply ]
Great.
Posted 13 years ago by clarabowdo    [ Reply ]
Was a 3, now a 2
Posted 13 years ago by Johnny_Wave    [ Reply ]
turn it up to 11...
Posted 13 years ago by sfearll    [ Reply ]
Having read the book and seen the movie I must say that I admire what Chris did. He had the brass cojones to do what many people dream to do. Mainstream society just wasn't for him, much like many of us turn to RP for a break from mainstream radio. Were his actions more selfish than buying up oil futures to make an easy million, warbling on American Idol in hopes of being famous, or working out at the gym daily to have the perfect body? He felt that he HAD to get out, there wasn't any other choice. Yes, he did do his homework and still got in over his head, but he fully understood the risks. The movie was good, but yes, Penn took poetic license. The Grand Canyon rafting scene was interesting if not accurate (thrown in I'm sure for those who won't read the book and want more excitement). The soundtrack and this song are excellent.

Posted 13 years ago by grungepuppy    [ Reply ]
Not really sure how anyone could give this song a "1", but I guess there's no accounting for taste.
Posted 13 years ago by usajpl    [ Reply ]

This song helped to get me through some tough times during a career change from something I hated to something I love. Always a 10 to me.

"I'm gonna rise up and throw down my ace in the hole"


Posted 13 years ago by PA1749    [ Reply ]
BTW, I actually give this an 8.{#Clap}
Posted 14 years ago by sirdroseph    [ Reply ]
This actually is a good song, I bet if someone who could sing gave it a shot it would even be better!{#Cheers}
Posted 14 years ago by sirdroseph    [ Reply ]
 Jeff09 wrote:

The kid was a romantic idealist, and had some unrealistic notions of what he was getting into, but he actually did a lot of research on how to feed himself.  He got trapped by a late spring thaw, and it was an obscure chemical property of the plants he had to eat that ended up getting him.  Back in the day, there were a lot of us who had similar notions of escape to nature.  I wish there were more kids like him; have to say I fear that young folk today have very little real experience and understanding of the natural world.

 

Well said; however naive he may have been, I admired his idealism.

Posted 14 years ago by chyk5    [ Reply ]
 iTuner wrote:
Deadliest Catch trumps Into The Wild.

I liked how the song was used to promote the show this year.

While Krakauer's book was very good, that kid was an idiot an the movie did a poor job showing that and glorified him too much.
 
The kid was a romantic idealist, and had some unrealistic notions of what he was getting into, but he actually did a lot of research on how to feed himself.  He got trapped by a late spring thaw, and it was an obscure chemical property of the plants he had to eat that ended up getting him.  Back in the day, there were a lot of us who had similar notions of escape to nature.  I wish there were more kids like him; have to say I fear that young folk today have very little real experience and understanding of the natural world.

Posted 14 years ago by Jeff09    [ Reply ]
This song is catchy.  Pun intended.
Posted 14 years ago by westslope    [ Reply ]
Deadliest Catch trumps Into The Wild.

I liked how the song was used to promote the show this year.

While Krakauer's book was very good, that kid was an idiot an the movie did a poor job showing that and glorified him too much.
Posted 14 years ago by iTuner    [ Reply ]
So fitting with the movie, just love it.
Posted 14 years ago by muzik    [ Reply ]
It is rising up...from 7.2 to 7.3 :)
Posted 14 years ago by otaznick    [ Reply ]

I like the rough mandolin work (by Vedder I believe).  It suits the song.


Posted 14 years ago by Webfoot    [ Reply ]
 kapetto wrote:
Isn't this the theme song for Deadliest Catch or something?  I watched a marathon of that show.  It was the first TV I've watched in several years.  I guess "Morons Work Hard for Insane Captains at Crazy Shitty Job" was way too long.

Very nice song.  Stupid,  yet strangely addictive show.

P.S. I'm glad that Vedder finally got around to swallowing that damned pickle.
 

one of the best comments i've ever read on RP...well done.
Posted 14 years ago by rumblekg    [ Reply ]
Isn't this the theme song for Deadliest Catch or something?  I watched a marathon of that show.  It was the first TV I've watched in several years.  I guess "Morons Work Hard for Insane Captains at Crazy Shitty Job" was way too long.

Very nice song.  Stupid,  yet strangely addictive show.

P.S. I'm glad that Vedder finally got around to swallowing that damned pickle.
Posted 14 years ago by kapetto    [ Reply ]

Posted 14 years ago by two2fly    [ Reply ]
 sans wrote:
I will never get sick of this song or this sentiment. I'd love to see Eddie play Telluride Bluegrass Festival as a front man for Punch Brothers... make it happen!
 
I'd be SO there.

Posted 14 years ago by Cynaera    [ Reply ]
 Jack_Jefferson wrote:
I usually just don't care for Pearl Jam, but I'm liking everything I hear from this album.
 
Me too! I spent ten minutes trying to put my thoughts into words, but you just did it. And Eddie Vedder is really NOT a dork. He's a thinker and a dreamer and a planner. Very intelligent and articulate, and he believes in the world and not just one country over another.

If humankind is gonna think outside the box, I really think Mr. Vedder's viewpoints would be a place to start...

Posted 14 years ago by Cynaera    [ Reply ]
 Xeric wrote:

In a quick reading, I count the word "character" three times.  That's a different discussion from the one I thought I was having, which was in reference to the actual person.  Not the same (hence Penn's license to fiddle so strangely with the river scene).

And if we want to talk about the movie character's pathology, if it weren't for a long series of folks with some degree of that pathology, a whole lotta good in the world would never have gotten done. . . .

 

Well, in your prior posts you did mention the book, the movie, and the character, and I don't think you knew the actual person on whom they were all based, so your point is a bit odd.  I don't want to judge the actual person either, or Krakauer's skills as a writer without reading his book.  I am sure Penn took a lot of license, as you say.  I think Penn saw the character in the correct light, he did a good job.  I did not like the movie at first, but now when I think about it, I realize it stuck with me.  Penn makes a good point and gives us a character worth talking about.  As I said, if you would be more generous and give my post more than a "quick reading", I identifed with the character, so I agree with you more than you think.  That's 4 uses of the word this post.  Toodles. 

Posted 14 years ago by rdo    [ Reply ]
I will never get sick of this song or this sentiment. I'd love to see Eddie play Telluride Bluegrass Festival as a front man for Punch Brothers... make it happen!
Posted 14 years ago by sans    [ Reply ]
Still, Eddie Vedder's best work was done with Pearl Jam, and it is the album No Code.
Posted 14 years ago by Bachka    [ Reply ]
 Middleton wrote:
I feel like a teenage girl admitting this, but I turn to mush when I hear Eddie Vedder sing
 

I'm just hoping that you're not a middle-aged man.
Posted 14 years ago by SmackDaddy    [ Reply ]
The movie makes me LOVE this song. Thinking about it chokes me up.
Posted 15 years ago by MayBaby    [ Reply ]
Nice!
Posted 15 years ago by helgigermany    [ Reply ]
Eddie Vedder?  I would have sworn it was Richard Thompson.  Maybe the guy has a whole second career. 

Posted 15 years ago by BasmntMadman    [ Reply ]

Eddie Vedder -  sings Cat Stevens "Trouble" Live acoustic

"look at him sitting there, just a simple guy with his guitar and his beautiful voice....poetry in motion. So unpretentious...to this day. Eddie rules. "


Posted 15 years ago by calypsus_1    [ Reply ]

I well and truly love this song. Ver emotional - especially if you've seen the film. Well done, Edward.



Posted 15 years ago by Rick_V    [ Reply ]
 rdo wrote:


I didn't read the book but I did see the movie.  I have to take issue with your assertion that the movie character wasn't driven by ignorance.  I remember feeling much like the character when I was that age - I still do feel that way.  I can say for certain that a lot of my feelings were based on pure ignorance.  The character's fatal flaw was, above everything, self-righteousness, not ignorance. But this driving desire for a world exactly as you want it, not as it is, and not being able to accept it for what it is, is nothing other than a pathology.  I don't think we are required to paint a rosy picutre and sing out from the mountiantop how great the world is.  But we do have to adapt, and perhaps even try to make it better, which this character was too self-absorbed to even bother with.
 
In a quick reading, I count the word "character" three times.  That's a different discussion from the one I thought I was having, which was in reference to the actual person.  Not the same (hence Penn's license to fiddle so strangely with the river scene).

And if we want to talk about the movie character's pathology, if it weren't for a long series of folks with some degree of that pathology, a whole lotta good in the world would never have gotten done. . . .

Posted 15 years ago by Xeric    [ Reply ]
 Xeric wrote:

Until you've at least read the book, and perhaps also seen the movie, you and anybody else who thinks McCandless's issues were as simple as "retardation" are grossly oversimplifying a complex and driven character.

Were his choices poor?  Yep.  Driven by stupidity or ignorance?  Not in the least.

It's a fine book, M.  Wait, I owe you one, don't I?  OK, now I know what it'll be!
 

I didn't read the book but I did see the movie.  I have to take issue with your assertion that the movie character wasn't driven by ignorance.  I remember feeling much like the character when I was that age - I still do feel that way.  I can say for certain that a lot of my feelings were based on pure ignorance.  The character's fatal flaw was, above everything, self-righteousness, not ignorance. But this driving desire for a world exactly as you want it, not as it is, and not being able to accept it for what it is, is nothing other than a pathology.  I don't think we are required to paint a rosy picutre and sing out from the mountiantop how great the world is.  But we do have to adapt, and perhaps even try to make it better, which this character was too self-absorbed to even bother with.
Posted 15 years ago by rdo    [ Reply ]
I usually just don't care for Pearl Jam, but I'm liking everything I hear from this album.
Posted 15 years ago by Jack_Jefferson    [ Reply ]
 ceviche wrote:
Like the album, liked the movie, but it made me sad for misguided idealism, and made me shake my head for all the intense and absolutist thinkers whom I have known. Made me fear for my sons as they reach this age and grapple with the uncertainties and inconsistencies of our world. So far, so good, hope they come to terms ok, and have their adventures without so recklessly and naively losing touch.
 

What a thoughtful comment.  It's an interesting perspective on the perils of dogma of any kind; a different kind of fundamentalism.

Intense people can be so magnetic, and so self-destructive.  I wonder how many like that show up on the RP play list...
Posted 15 years ago by denmom    [ Reply ]
 tg3k wrote:

I guess I missed the part where anyone said he was retarded. Troubled, yes, but retarded, no.

I was going to rate the song, but I didn't see an option for "meh". I go hot and cold with Eddie Vedder...this one's on the cold side.

 
Well, if it really, uhm, troubles you, I guess you could scroll back less than a page to the post to which I was replying.  It's there.  But since we're essentially in agreement, quibbles about my accuracy aside, what the heck. 

Posted 15 years ago by Xeric    [ Reply ]
I feel like a teenage girl admitting this, but I turn to mush when I hear Eddie Vedder sing
Posted 15 years ago by Middleton    [ Reply ]
More mandolin - less Eddie is what this song needs. Too much false angst in his quavering, off key voice.
Posted 15 years ago by Quixmundi    [ Reply ]