Nirvana — Polly
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Polly wants a cracker
Think I should get off her first
Think she wants some water
To put out the blow torch
Isn't me, have a seed
Let me clip, your dirty wings
Let me take a ride, cut yourself
Want some help, please myself
Got some rope, have been told
Promise you, have been true
Let me take a ride, cut yourself
Want some help, please myself
Polly wants a cracker
Maybe she would like some food
She asked me to untie her
A chase would be nice for a few
Isn't me, have a seed
Let me clip, your dirty wings
Let me take a ride, cut yourself
Want some help, please myself
Got some rope, have been told
Promise you, have been true
Let me take a ride, cut yourself
Want some help, please myself
Polly said
Polly says her back hurts
She's just as bored as me
She caught me off my guard
Amazes me the will of instinct
Isn't me, have a seed
Let me clip, your dirty wings
Let me take a ride, cut yourself
Want some help, please myself
Got some rope, have been told
Promise you, have been true
Let me take a ride, cut yourself
Want some help, please myself
Think I should get off her first
Think she wants some water
To put out the blow torch
Isn't me, have a seed
Let me clip, your dirty wings
Let me take a ride, cut yourself
Want some help, please myself
Got some rope, have been told
Promise you, have been true
Let me take a ride, cut yourself
Want some help, please myself
Polly wants a cracker
Maybe she would like some food
She asked me to untie her
A chase would be nice for a few
Isn't me, have a seed
Let me clip, your dirty wings
Let me take a ride, cut yourself
Want some help, please myself
Got some rope, have been told
Promise you, have been true
Let me take a ride, cut yourself
Want some help, please myself
Polly said
Polly says her back hurts
She's just as bored as me
She caught me off my guard
Amazes me the will of instinct
Isn't me, have a seed
Let me clip, your dirty wings
Let me take a ride, cut yourself
Want some help, please myself
Got some rope, have been told
Promise you, have been true
Let me take a ride, cut yourself
Want some help, please myself
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Always liked this song. Always liked Nirvana and most the early grunge groups that saved rock and roll. I didn't hate ALL the glam rock stuff, but, it got out of hand.
daniel_rusk wrote:
I know this will go flying way over your head, but I am going to copy/paste a wise reply by tkosh to a post almost as ignorant as yours:
tkosh wrote:
Be thankful every day that you don't know the dark, heartbreaking, frustrating, unexplained workings of the mind that bring mental illness and depression. It can take tremendous courage just to live in that reality, and to reach the depths of despair that brings suicide is something I can't fathom—even though I've been quite down-in-the-dumps myself at times—very sad, confused, and bewildered at times, but never even close to suicide. Count your blessings, and save your judgments for your own missteps in life.
Loser. Who in this life never has a tough time, sometime? Use to like this song and Nirvana. Our band played their music. Now I turn it off. So disrespectful of life and those of us who actually live it.
I know this will go flying way over your head, but I am going to copy/paste a wise reply by tkosh to a post almost as ignorant as yours:
tkosh wrote:
Be thankful every day that you don't know the dark, heartbreaking, frustrating, unexplained workings of the mind that bring mental illness and depression. It can take tremendous courage just to live in that reality, and to reach the depths of despair that brings suicide is something I can't fathom—even though I've been quite down-in-the-dumps myself at times—very sad, confused, and bewildered at times, but never even close to suicide. Count your blessings, and save your judgments for your own missteps in life.
Loser. Who in this life never has a tough time, sometime? Use to like this song and Nirvana. Our band played their music. Now I turn it off. So disrespectful of life and those of us who actually live it.
Morning songs in the office about cutting yourself.
9/10
GeminiGirl wrote:
You mean like The National Enquirer?
If you read alt media
You mean like The National Enquirer?
tkosh wrote:
Be thankful every day that you don't know the dark, heartbreaking, frustrating, unexplained workings of the mind that bring mental illness and depression. It can take tremendous courage just to live in that reality, and to reach the depths of despair that brings suicide is something I can't fathom—even though I've been quite down-in-the-dumps myself at times—very sad, confused, and bewildered at times, but never even close to suicide. Count your blessings, and save your judgments for your own missteps in life.
tkosh wrote:
Be thankful every day that you don't know the dark, heartbreaking, frustrating, unexplained workings of the mind that bring mental illness and depression. It can take tremendous courage just to live in that reality, and to reach the depths of despair that brings suicide is something I can't fathom—even though I've been quite down-in-the-dumps myself at times—very sad, confused, and bewildered at times, but never even close to suicide. Count your blessings, and save your judgments for your own missteps in life.
Thank you for responding to that absurd, shallow, narcissistic comment with wise, true words.
Be thankful every day that you don't know the dark, heartbreaking, frustrating, unexplained workings of the mind that bring mental illness and depression. It can take tremendous courage just to live in that reality, and to reach the depths of despair that brings suicide is something I can't fathom—even though I've been quite down-in-the-dumps myself at times—very sad, confused, and bewildered at times, but never even close to suicide. Count your blessings, and save your judgments for your own missteps in life.
Thank you for responding to that absurd, shallow, narcissistic comment with wise, true words.
If you read alt media he didn't commit suicide - internet still available to check into news that is not mainstream propaganda...
Absolute classic, you are correct Bill
As I said back in 2010 about this band:
1. Melody - the majority of his songs can be stripped of their accompaniment and played as straight up incredibly catc
hy hummable tunes
2. Lyrics - Deep insight into human experience - albeit generally about pain and suffering but insight nonetheless
3. Musicianship - Cobain was a gifted guitarist and drummer who let his guitar serve the song and finally found a worthy drum-mate in the great David Grohl
4. Combined the best traditions of the blues, folk, pop, rock, punk and metal vocalizing. Brought true emotion to the songs.
As I said back in 2010 about this band:
1. Melody - the majority of his songs can be stripped of their accompaniment and played as straight up incredibly catc
hy hummable tunes
2. Lyrics - Deep insight into human experience - albeit generally about pain and suffering but insight nonetheless
3. Musicianship - Cobain was a gifted guitarist and drummer who let his guitar serve the song and finally found a worthy drum-mate in the great David Grohl
4. Combined the best traditions of the blues, folk, pop, rock, punk and metal vocalizing. Brought true emotion to the songs.
lemmoth wrote:
Amen brother
Totally agree...still, I am not so sure depression is what drove him to suicide...we just will never know
Amen brother
Totally agree...still, I am not so sure depression is what drove him to suicide...we just will never know
Johnny_Wave wrote:
Sorta odd... this song isn't exactly atypical for them... maybe it is just because I like it.
Like all but one Nirvana songs, this sucks
Sorta odd... this song isn't exactly atypical for them... maybe it is just because I like it.
tkosh wrote:
Be thankful every day that you don't know the dark, heartbreaking, frustrating, unexplained workings of the mind that bring mental illness and depression. It can take tremendous courage just to live in that reality, and to reach the depths of despair that brings suicide is something I can't fathom--even though I've been quite down-in-the-dumps myself at times--very sad, confused, and bewildered at times, but never even close to suicide. Count your blessings, and save your judgments for your own missteps in life.
Amen brother
Be thankful every day that you don't know the dark, heartbreaking, frustrating, unexplained workings of the mind that bring mental illness and depression. It can take tremendous courage just to live in that reality, and to reach the depths of despair that brings suicide is something I can't fathom--even though I've been quite down-in-the-dumps myself at times--very sad, confused, and bewildered at times, but never even close to suicide. Count your blessings, and save your judgments for your own missteps in life.
Amen brother
iTuner wrote:
Agree 100%. I have a hard time respecting anyone selfish and weak enough to take their own life.
Be thankful every day that you don't know the dark, heartbreaking, frustrating, unexplained workings of the mind that bring mental illness and depression. It can take tremendous courage just to live in that reality, and to reach the depths of despair that brings suicide is something I can't fathom--even though I've been quite down-in-the-dumps myself at times--very sad, confused, and bewildered at times, but never even close to suicide. Count your blessings, and save your judgments for your own missteps in life.
Agree 100%. I have a hard time respecting anyone selfish and weak enough to take their own life.
Be thankful every day that you don't know the dark, heartbreaking, frustrating, unexplained workings of the mind that bring mental illness and depression. It can take tremendous courage just to live in that reality, and to reach the depths of despair that brings suicide is something I can't fathom--even though I've been quite down-in-the-dumps myself at times--very sad, confused, and bewildered at times, but never even close to suicide. Count your blessings, and save your judgments for your own missteps in life.
Like all but one Nirvana songs, this sucks
iTuner wrote:
Agree 100%. I have a hard time respecting anyone selfish and weak enough to take their own life.
Must be lovely living your (obviously sheltered) life.
Agree 100%. I have a hard time respecting anyone selfish and weak enough to take their own life.
Must be lovely living your (obviously sheltered) life.
Love this!
Creepiest song EVAH
Byronape wrote:
You clearly have never dealt with anyone with mental illness or experience the kind of crushing depression that brings people to that point. It isn't always about strength or weakness, sometimes it's about the friends and loved ones you have around you that help keep you sane.
Yes, yes. If you have never ridden that boat, no one can explain what the dark rushing river is like.
You clearly have never dealt with anyone with mental illness or experience the kind of crushing depression that brings people to that point. It isn't always about strength or weakness, sometimes it's about the friends and loved ones you have around you that help keep you sane.
Yes, yes. If you have never ridden that boat, no one can explain what the dark rushing river is like.
scraig wrote:
Yeah, my kid will be 30 in a couple of months.
Wow, this album is 16-years old. Time has really flown by.
Yeah, my kid will be 30 in a couple of months.
iTuner wrote:
You clearly have never dealt with anyone with mental illness or experience the kind of crushing depression that brings people to that point. It isn't always about strength or weakness, sometimes it's about the friends and loved ones you have around you that help keep you sane.
Agree 100%. I have a hard time respecting anyone selfish and weak enough to take their own life.
You clearly have never dealt with anyone with mental illness or experience the kind of crushing depression that brings people to that point. It isn't always about strength or weakness, sometimes it's about the friends and loved ones you have around you that help keep you sane.
iTuner wrote:
Agree 100%. I have a hard time respecting anyone selfish and weak enough to take their own life.
Though it should be noted that respect and enjoying someone's music have absolutely nothing to do with one another IMO. I like lots of musicians music that I do not neccesarily respect and vice versa.
Agree 100%. I have a hard time respecting anyone selfish and weak enough to take their own life.
Though it should be noted that respect and enjoying someone's music have absolutely nothing to do with one another IMO. I like lots of musicians music that I do not neccesarily respect and vice versa.
Cynaera wrote:
Agree 100%. I have a hard time respecting anyone selfish and weak enough to take their own life.
I have never liked Nirvana. It doesn't mean I don't appreciate Cobain's angst and the band's struggles, and how they raised the bar on grunge music - it just isn't my cup of absynthe.
Agree 100%. I have a hard time respecting anyone selfish and weak enough to take their own life.
I have never liked Nirvana. It doesn't mean I don't appreciate Cobain's angst and the band's struggles, and how they raised the bar on grunge music - it just isn't my cup of absynthe.
If you have not heard the rock version of this song, it is worth a listen.
Great song from a great performance!
lemmoth wrote:
1. Melody - the majority of his songs can be stripped of their accompaniment and played as straight up incredibly catc
hy hummable tunes
2. Lyrics - Deep insight into human experience - albeit generally about pain and suffering but insight nonetheless
3. Musicianship - Cobain was a gifted guitarist and drummer who let his guitar serve the song and finally found a worthy drum-mate in the great David Grohl
4. Combined the best traditions of the blues, folk, pop, rock, punk and metal vocalizing. Brought true emotion to the songs.
1. Melody - the majority of his songs can be stripped of their accompaniment and played as straight up incredibly catc
hy hummable tunes
2. Lyrics - Deep insight into human experience - albeit generally about pain and suffering but insight nonetheless
3. Musicianship - Cobain was a gifted guitarist and drummer who let his guitar serve the song and finally found a worthy drum-mate in the great David Grohl
4. Combined the best traditions of the blues, folk, pop, rock, punk and metal vocalizing. Brought true emotion to the songs.
nate917 wrote:
1. Melody - the majority of his songs can be stripped of their accompaniment and played as straight up incredibly catc
hy hummable tunes
2. Lyrics - Deep insight into human experience - albeit generally about pain and suffering but insight nonetheless
3. Musicianship - Cobain was a gifted guitarist and drummer who let his guitar serve the song and finally found a worthy drum-mate in the great David Grohl
4. Combined the best traditions of the blues, folk, pop, rock, punk and metal vocalizing. Brought true emotion to the songs.
Cobain: the most overrated musician since Salieri.
1. Melody - the majority of his songs can be stripped of their accompaniment and played as straight up incredibly catc
hy hummable tunes
2. Lyrics - Deep insight into human experience - albeit generally about pain and suffering but insight nonetheless
3. Musicianship - Cobain was a gifted guitarist and drummer who let his guitar serve the song and finally found a worthy drum-mate in the great David Grohl
4. Combined the best traditions of the blues, folk, pop, rock, punk and metal vocalizing. Brought true emotion to the songs.
romeotuma wrote:
I agree...
I agree...
Wow, this album is 16-years old. Time has really flown by.
fredriley wrote:
Yup, Polly Jean Harvey - good catch.
Bill keeps us on our toes.
I guess the segue from PJ Harvey is that P = Polly? ;-)
Yup, Polly Jean Harvey - good catch.
Bill keeps us on our toes.
I guess the segue from PJ Harvey is that P = Polly? ;-)
This is my favourite rendition of Polly. I love it.
nice
thanks Bill
thanks Bill
birdland wrote:
Well conceived, well said.
...the knotted cords untying...
Peter Gabriel - "Blood of Eden"
I love the sound of Nirvana - I love that they exploded into a virtually empty rock and roll space (popular music circa 1990). It was like all the other sounds were echoes, and Curt and the boys came up with a new scream at the canyons edge.
Yap, nirvana DID something good for music.. can you imagine rock stuck in late 80's heavy metal until now?
trekhead wrote:
PROLLY
Prolly I'm a cracker...
I know I should PRONOUNCE my words.
I think its verbal slaughter,
But CD sales are a scorch.
nate917 wrote:
Cobain: the most overrated musician since Salieri.
Really? More overrated than Debbie Gibson?
nate917 wrote:
Cobain: the most overrated musician since Salieri.
The guy wrote some excellent songs. Just about everything he did has merit. Agreed it's youthful drug addicted angst, but whatever. He had a gift that rarely emerges decade to decade.
nate917 wrote:
Plus, let's face it, you'd be a mile farther away from Nirvana, and you'd have some free shoes!
Yeah, but who really WANTS Kurt's old shoes. Dude was homeless at one point, and dressed like it. I think I'd like something a little nicer.
You know... I used to be the biggest of nirvana fans in the 90's I liked every song of theirs.
It's amazing how I have almost no interest in listening to any of it now a days :)
It must have just struck a chord with me when I was young and grungy.
arzvael wrote:
Can't remember how I've liked this song, no voice, no music, simply boring 
You are clearly clueless
The only Nirvana I own, sounds perfect, excellent song writer.
nate917 wrote:
Cobain: the most overrated musician since Salieri.
tsk tsk.
Ok music is a very personal thing but sometimes..I question the hearing of some people...
ladainty wrote:
Re all this Cobain stuff, in my opinion you shouldn't judge a person and their behaviour until you've walked a mile in their shoes, that's all
Plus, let's face it, you'd be a mile farther away from Nirvana, and you'd have some free shoes!
Cobain: the most overrated musician since Salieri.
Brilliant.
aekl wrote:
Yes, they're certainly no Crowded House, which seems to have your ear. I pity you.
Gryn wrote:
Nirvana never did a thing for me. =(
Courtney never did a thing for me!
The Muddy Banks of the Wishkaw version is the most powerful
ManchesterUK wrote:
The more I hear, the worse they get !
Yes, they're certainly no Crowded House, which seems to have your ear. I pity you.
PROLLY
Prolly I'm a cracker...
I know I should PRONOUNCE my words.
I think its verbal slaughter,
But CD sales are a scorch.
I saw Nirvana twice:
+ Once just *before* Nevermind was released - at a small bar in Boise, ID (unbelievable performance, standing 2 ft away from Cobain while he blew the crowd away, none of us had ever heard "Smells Like Teen Spirit" and we were FREAKED!)
+ Another time when they toured in support of Heart Shaped Box at a much larger College venue (performance was good, but just didn't generate the intimacy and immediacy of the bar setting)
Location, location, location. . .
I miss these guys
DrLex wrote:
I don't find the entire phenomenon of Nirvana overrated, but on this CD I must agree. The sound quality is mediocre, and the performances aren't that good. Give me the original version of Polly over this one any time. I think this album's popularity is mostly a result from its well-timed release date.
dude, playing it live is supposed to sound different, raw and without studio engineering, otherwise people wouldn't attend live concerts, as opposed to staying home, slippin in the fucking CD and hearing every last note engineered into perfection. There is something and more than something to be said for not only the live expereince but the whole zeitgeist of what the artist brings to the work in a live environment (state of mind, mood, feelings of whether to keep on living, etc) Look into it!
Old_Pool_Skunk wrote:
Overrated. Sad in every sense of the word.
I don't find the entire phenomenon of Nirvana overrated, but on this CD I must agree. The sound quality is mediocre, and the performances aren't that good. Give me the original version of Polly over this one any time. I think this album's popularity is mostly a result from its well-timed release date.
This song always gives me such creeps.
birdland wrote: 
Well conceived, well said.
...the knotted cords untying...
Peter Gabriel - "Blood of Eden"
I love the sound of Nirvana - I love that they exploded into a virtually empty rock and roll space (popular music circa 1990). It was like all the other sounds were echoes, and Curt and the boys came up with a new scream at the canyons edge.
nice and accurate analogy
nuggler wrote:
All well & good sounding off like that but the reality is that unravelling karmic knots takes a whole lot more than what you're likely to learn in any university or at your local corner church....
Well conceived, well said.
...the knotted cords untying...
Peter Gabriel - "Blood of Eden"
I love the sound of Nirvana - I love that they exploded into a virtually empty rock and roll space (popular music circa 1990). It was like all the other sounds were echoes, and Curt and the boys came up with a new scream at the canyons edge.
Overrated. Sad in every sense of the word.
The more I hear, the worse they get !
I caught these guys once in a small setting in upstate NY...great show but it was easy to see how off-tilt Curt was. A few years earlier, some friends trying to organize a concert at a well-heeled college related to me that the band demanded $10K and an ounce of heroin up front. Needless to say, they didn't bite, and the image was forever engrained for me.
Nirvana always had a great stable of tunes, and no one can deny their influence. It's just a shame it's the one Curt was under that most of us think of.
Likeable tune, but not in their top 10.
Nirvana........Courtney had Kurt killed......hmm
Nirvana never did a thing for me. =(
I was listening to this thinking... "hmmm this is really different from what I've heard before." and I was liking it so I rated it 7. Then I realized I was listening to another cd on another station. Now it's a four.
Can't remember how I've liked this song, no voice, no music, simply boring
Boring.
I gave this a 1??
I must have been in a REALLY good mood that day.
ladainty wrote:
Re all this Cobain stuff, in my opinion you shouldn't judge a person and their behaviour until you've walked a mile in their shoes, that's all
Damn right!
Typesbad wrote:
Hard rock bands often tried to express this by putting some token acoustic song in the middle of all the heavy machinery.
"Lick My Love Pump"?
Re all this Cobain stuff, in my opinion you shouldn't judge a person and their behaviour until you've walked a mile in their shoes, that's all
When you become an adult, all the responsibility of your actions is yours. Take what you have been given in your past, the good and bad and learn through it, pain and all, to become a better person. Unfortunately, Kurt chose not to pass on what he could have learned to his daughter and wife. Both are clearly suffering as a result.
Don't you think it is a little different on your psyche to have your father choose to leave you as compared to a natural death or divorce?
I like some Nirvana tracks. This one is one of my favourites.
On the subject of Cobain departing this world. Each of us is born into a world of obligation, duty, expectation and responsibility. We are not given a choice, it is forced upon us by parents, society, religion and politics.
Some people DO fight demons, and challenge their very spirits. In my mind it is NOT selfish to wish to leave a world which all-too-often seems cruel, unjust, and almost 'fake'.
What is more selfish is a parent who creates life in the first place, in order to fill some gaping hole in their own soul, without considering the consequences of subjecting a conscious being to this world.
Besides, all you guys moaning can't do much, Cobain has already departed. Appreciate the music, don't appreciate it. He left his mark and has moved on. His daughter will be fine as it's no different to any kid growing up after a divorce or the loss of a parent.
Trustocity wrote:
Couldn't agree more. Justify Cobain all you want -- his delusions ("I never wanted to be famous"), his selfishness ("Suicide solves my problems and no one else's"), his denial of the reality before him ("I'd rather end my existence than change my career"). However, the final message of his life is this: As long as life is hard, it's okay to give up.
And yes, anyone who abandons his daughter to be raised by a single Courtney Love is a bastard. But I love every Nirvana song I've ever heard, so apparently, Geffen Records doesn't care what I think. As it should be.
All well & good sounding off like that but the reality is that unravelling karmic knots takes a whole lot more than what you're likely to learn in any university or at your local corner chuch....
drover wrote:
My pleasure. I freely confess that I'm partial toward not committing suicide and leaving your wife and infant daughter behind. If that also makes me judgemental, intolerant and shallow, then I don't really want to be a part of your morbid "non-judgemental, tolerant and deep" world.
Couldn't agree more. Justify Cobain all you want -- his delusions ("I never wanted to be famous"), his selfishness ("Suicide solves my problems and no one else's"), his denial of the reality before him ("I'd rather end my existence than change my career"). However, the final message of his life is this: As long as life is hard, it's okay to give up.
And yes, anyone who abandons his daughter to be raised by a single Courtney Love is a bastard. But I love every Nirvana song I've ever heard, so apparently, Geffen Records doesn't care what I think. As it should be.
drover wrote:
My pleasure. I freely confess that I'm partial toward not committing suicide and leaving your wife and infant daughter behind. If that also makes me judgemental, intolerant and shallow, then I don't really want to be a part of your morbid "non-judgemental, tolerant and deep" world.
I don't see that there is anyone here who can know the forces at play in another person's soul.
Remember too, that nothing happens for no reason. There is a lesson in everything & a wise man will know how to learn from such things.
I really wish we could hear some different Nirvana tracks. This one is getting musty.
They definitely changed music, but Kurt would be bummed that we're still hearing bands try to be Nirvana on the radio fourteen years later. And I don't think the Pixies get enough credit for the overthrow of hair band rock (I think Nirvana cited them as an influence).
drover wrote:
My pleasure. I freely confess that I'm partial toward not committing suicide and leaving your wife and infant daughter behind. If that also makes me judgemental, intolerant and shallow, then I don't really want to be a part of your morbid "non-judgemental, tolerant and deep" world.
I would say you're well-grounded, drover. And deeper than some around here, anyway.
Not the highest Nirvana song on my list, but certainly likeable.
drover wrote:
. . . he condemned his daughter to spend her whole life only knowing her father through the filter of what others say about him. He had a responsibility to his kid but he was too much of a selfish prick to live up to it.
Wait a minute. Are you trying to say that Courtney Love is irresponsible? Her and her probation officer can come sit for my grandkids anytime.
masterhead wrote:
Thank you two, for your judgemental, intolerant, partial and shallow comment.
My pleasure. I freely confess that I'm partial toward not committing suicide and leaving your wife and infant daughter behind. If that also makes me judgemental, intolerant and shallow, then I don't really want to be a part of your morbid "non-judgemental, tolerant and deep" world.
drover wrote:
I don't really care that he tossed his fans the finger. He didn't owe them anything. What I most despise the man and his ignominious exit is that he condemned his daughter to spend her whole life only knowing her father through the filter of what others say about him. He had a responsibility to his kid but he was too much of a selfish prick to live up to it.
Thank you two, for your judgemental, intolerant, partial and shallow comment.
tg3k wrote:
I'm glad to see I'm not the only person around who thinks Nirvana was grossly overrated. Not only was their "music" marginal, but Kurt Cobain, who had the world at his fingertips, tossed all his fans the big finger (although he did a bunch of us non-fans a favor, in a sense).
Of course Nirvana is overrated -- how could they not be? I myself have been overrated from time to time, there's simply no way to live up to the hype. But they were still good, AND cutting-edge, AND sturdy after all the years. And this from someone who doesn't necessarily devote a large block of time to listening to them.
drover wrote:
I don't really care that he tossed his fans the finger. He didn't owe them anything. What I most despise the man and his ignominious exit is that he condemned his daughter to spend her whole life only knowing her father through the filter of what others say about him. He had a responsibility to his kid but he was too much of a selfish prick to live up to it.
Or maybe he had his own demons that overcame him and all that he loved.
my favorite nirvana song!
Always loved Grohl's harmony on this track.
drover wrote:
I don't really care that he tossed his fans the finger. He didn't owe them anything. What I most despise the man and his ignominious exit is that he condemned his daughter to spend her whole life only knowing her father through the filter of what others say about him. He had a responsibility to his kid but he was too much of a selfish prick to live up to it.
Excellent point, and well said.
tg3k wrote:
I'm glad to see I'm not the only person around who thinks Nirvana was grossly overrated. Not only was their "music" marginal, but Kurt Cobain, who had the world at his fingertips, tossed all his fans the big finger (although he did a bunch of us non-fans a favor, in a sense).
I don't really care that he tossed his fans the finger. He didn't owe them anything. What I most despise about the man and his ignominious exit is that he condemned his daughter to spend her whole life only knowing her father through the filter of what others say about him. He had a responsibility to his kid but he was too much of a selfish prick to live up to it.
Never understood the whole Nirvanna myth. They are like Dylan, better when someone else does their music. I think its the vocal detachment in their songs (both of them)
bluedot wrote:
it's all good.
No, it isn't.
But everything mentioned here is. . . . 8)
joe1 wrote:
Nirvana, or Curt, is far more relevant to today than Dylan or the Beatles....just get over it you ageing hippies....
oh just get over it, you ageing grunge rocker.
in case you haven't noticed it, we are all floating in the same sinking age boat.
or to quote david byrne (who was also quoting), "same as it ever was."
btw, kurt didn't invent angst.
in fact, that word got made up in germany a long time before you were born.
i love nirvana, but they are not in any way "better" than dylan or beatles. that's just lame.
it's all good.
japanmoran wrote:
I wish Kurt would have hung on a bit longer....bummer that artists tend to destroy themselves, eh?
so sad and so true :(
trekhead wrote:
They always struck me as over-rated, a 3. You could E-NUN-CI-ATE and still be Grunge.... just me...
at least they're not cursing!
Not bad :)
They always struck me as over-rated, a 3. You could E-NUN-CI-ATE and still be Grunge.... just me...
I wish Kurt would have hung on a bit longer....bummer that artists tend to destroy themselves, eh?
this is a great song, and I'm not usually one to say the nicest things about Nirvana. But I've always loved this song.
great song from an influential, timeless band. Kurt touched upon and expressed much of the emotion from his generation -- and with his bandmates made music that will reach beyond his unfortunately short life and live into the future.
I hated Nirvana when they first came on the scene, essentially because I'm, uh, 42 and they were not Led Zeppelin.
Okay, they're still not Zep. But nobody ever well be. And with more open ears, I like this tune. . . .
My friend promoted shows at Florida State University for a number of years. He told me the most professional band he ever worked with was Nirvana, in terms of how seriously they approached their work. It shows here, and everywhere.
Joe' my dear, I'd "guide" you as you almost requested, but posts like this are just too entertaining. So I'm just going to sit back, grab a beer and some popcorn, and watch the fun...
I wouldn't want you to be boring. Not that you could. Carry on.
x!
joe1 wrote:
Nirvana, or Curt, is far more relevant to today than Dylan or the Beatles....just get over it you ageing hippies....
I don't think age has anything to do with the rigidity that is expressed by others.
Although I suspect one could say that younger people are more open to possibilities, and older folks tend to be set in their ways, I certainly don't think *us* rank and file are as simplistic as judged.
Then again, age determining rigidity is about as absurd as saying -- when i was young, I was a liberal. Now that I am old, I'm a conservative. -- The silly notion purportedly implies that immaturity equals indulgence, and maturity requires prudence. People who are that simplistic in understanding political structure are potentially capable of saying that old people are rigid.
People who are rigid are that way for reasons beyond simply their birth date. Justly, conservative and liberal are not put into definition simply by the age or generosity of one's spirit.
By the way,
nirvana is worth it....
FerretRob wrote:
To me Grohl was Nirvana anyway, not Mr. Cobain.
That's the craziest thing I've ever heard anyone say about Nirvana. As great a drummer as Dave Grohl is, he was obviously not the core of the band. Kurt was the one who wrote the songs and lived the pain. I would say Dave was technically the most talented musician of the group, knowing that he played nearly everything for the first Foo Fighters album himself. The Foo Fighters sound nothing like Nirvana because that's Dave Grohl's band, not Kurt Cobain's.
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ScottFromWyoming wrote:
Then you weren't really there when Nirvana stopped the world, were you? 7 or 8 years old. You didn't know squat.
I was there, and I don't recall the world stopping. I just remember a lot of hype over an average-at-best album.
I bought nevermind, like every other high school kid (that does make the correct age to get it right-- being angst-ridden teenager?) and on first listen, thought it was awful save a couple songs. It's hasn't grown on me with age. Their later work just got worse.
Originally Posted by window:
Not only is unplugging Nirvana pointless, but it also makes all of their music sound bleak and dismal.
Maybe that was the point.
Originally Posted by shamu:
I also think nirvana (wa/i)s highly overrated and I am only 20.
jon. :oops:
Originally Posted by shamu:
I also think nirvana (wa/i)s highly overrated and I am only 20.
jon. :oops:
Then you weren't really there when Nirvana stopped the world, were you? 7 or 8 years old. You didn't know squat.
It upsets people when you play this... Play it more.
This song is sick, twisted and great!!
It\'s funny how I read the same comments about The Doors. So the front man was unstable and off\'ed himself. If you are offended by his lifestyle, fine. But the music is another matter.
Nirvana was at the front of the pack of \"grunge\" BUT that does NOT mean they are the eternal spokesmen for the whole scene. Soundgarden and Mother Love Bone were better examples.
To me Grohl was Nirvana anyway, not Mr. Cobain.
just cause kurt had a ton of emotional/physical problems doesn\'t negate the fact he was a great songwriter and performer, plugged or unplugged, in spite of the fact regular radio tends to overplay them :roll:This version is better than the original.
I'm glad to see I'm not the only person around who thinks Nirvana was grossly overrated. Not only was their "music" marginal, but Kurt Cobain, who had the world at his fingertips, tossed all his fans the big finger (although he did a bunch of us non-fans a favor, in a sense).
This particular song is typical of Nirvana's whiney dreck. 
I really feel like Kurt is the spokesman for my entire generation. NOT. Grrrrr.... 
Originally Posted by window:
Not only is unplugging Nirvana pointless, but it also makes all of their music sound bleak and dismal. In the Unplugged CD the singing is depressing, the playing is depressing, and the lyrics are especially depressing. I mean, plenty of bands have written about very sad topics, but it's done in a way that says "think about it and do something". Kurt's lyrics, on the other hand, seem to say "everything is terrible" without any post-script.
I think the post-script was written on his bedroom walls with his own brains.
Originally Posted by zaakster:
I like the song, but not this version. Why would a band like this do an unplugged album? The whole point of Nirvana was screaming wailing and feedback. It's like Black Sabbath unplugged -- why bother?
Not only is unplugging Nirvana pointless, but it also makes all of their music sound bleak and dismal. In the Unplugged CD the singing is depressing, the playing is depressing, and the lyrics are especially depressing. I mean, plenty of bands have written about very sad topics, but it's done in a way that says "think about it and do something". Kurt's lyrics, on the other hand, seem to say "everything is terrible" without any post-script.overrated? yes, have to agree...and I'm only 45...
But I do like their unplugged recording.....don't care much for anything else from them....
I think I am the only person my age (31) that can\'t stand Nirvana. Sometimes if I hear a band over and over, they grow on me. Not the case with Nirvana. Just plain hate em. It has something to do with his voice I think. But I can\'t put my finger on it. Not saying they are a bad band, (ie- Bare Naked Ladies) just that I loathe them.
Ok, I am ready to be bombarded with the \"What the F@#$!\"
Originally Posted by phiagurl:
I keep forgetting what an incredible album Unplugged is. Thanks for reminding me. "Polly" is such a beautiful song. Why is it that so many of the greatest rock stars have died early?
In this case, maybe because he was a clinically depressed, hopelessly fatalistic, drug-addled suicidal blockhead? That has a tendency to shorten your lifespan.
I keep forgetting what an incredible album Unplugged is. Thanks for reminding me. "Polly" is such a beautiful song. Why is it that so many of the greatest rock stars have died early?
Kurt Cobain had remarkable taste in music. I've been listening to a lot of his favorites recently -- the Raincoats, Leadbelly, the Meat Puppets.. He really knew his music. Although I like the rawness of the original, the "Oh Me" cover is probably my favorite song on Unplugged. Think that could be played sometime? :)
Oh, I love Nirvana... And RadioParadise... Seriously, I think RP might be the only place in the world where you can listen to Nirvana, Public Enemy, Orbital, and the Indigo Girls! I'm so glad I discovered this place. Sometimes I think it's talored specifically to my needs (then I remember that, if it was, there'd be more Kristin Hersh ;)).
Originally Posted by zaakster:
Why would a band like this do an unplugged album? The whole point of Nirvana was screaming wailing and feedback. It's like Black Sabbath unplugged -- why bother?
I believe what was proven by this unplugged album was precisely that Nirvana (and maybe grunge in general) wasn't just about screaming, wailing and feedback. and that there were legitimate melodies and sentiments underneath all the noise.
Hard rock bands often tried to express this by putting some token acoustic song in the middle of all the heavy machinery. Sabbath's "Embryo" for example. I think Nirvana's approach is much more effective. The songs stand up to the treatment.
An unplugged "Paranoid"? I'm willing to give it a try.
Who was the real winner in life when he is remembered around the world for his talent and you're a nobody? It's not the length of the life, it's what you achieve in your time and he achieved greatness. You achieved anonymity.