Pink Floyd — On The Turning Away
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On the turning away
From the pale and downtrodden
And the words they say which we won't understand
''"Don't accept that what's happening
Is just a case of others' suffering
Or you'll find that you're joining in
The turning away"''
It's a sin that somehow
Light is changing to shadow
And casting its shroud over all we have known
Unaware how the ranks have grown
Driven on by a heart of stone
We could find that we're all alone
In the dream of the proud
On the wings of the night
As the daytime is stirring
Where the speechless unite in a silent accord
Using words you will find are strange
Mesmerised as they light the flame
Feel the new wind of change
On the wings of the night
No more turning away
From the weak and the weary
No more turning away from the coldness inside
Just a world that we all must share
It's not enough just to stand and stare
Is it only a dream that there'll be
No more turning away?
From the pale and downtrodden
And the words they say which we won't understand
''"Don't accept that what's happening
Is just a case of others' suffering
Or you'll find that you're joining in
The turning away"''
It's a sin that somehow
Light is changing to shadow
And casting its shroud over all we have known
Unaware how the ranks have grown
Driven on by a heart of stone
We could find that we're all alone
In the dream of the proud
On the wings of the night
As the daytime is stirring
Where the speechless unite in a silent accord
Using words you will find are strange
Mesmerised as they light the flame
Feel the new wind of change
On the wings of the night
No more turning away
From the weak and the weary
No more turning away from the coldness inside
Just a world that we all must share
It's not enough just to stand and stare
Is it only a dream that there'll be
No more turning away?
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PF lost me after Animals. Saw them live twice. Milwaukee County stadium in 1976 and Soldier Field in 1977. After that, Roger lost interest in songwriting for PF, which was their strong point. Nothing else ever came close to that. The Wall was a total disappointment. 4 sides of vinyl with the same song played over and over. I adore David Gilmour, the ultimate rock god, but without Roger, they became a shell of their former selves.
I recall hearing this the 1st time while in college...highly anticipated, and while I fully enjoyed the music, something about this tune/album just didn't click...a bit too formula and "as expected" I suppose. A bit uninspired
Just switched from 'Pigs' playing on the Rock Mix, not one of PF's best. I much prefer this.
ScottN wrote:
I thought it was irony that our transatlantic cousins had difficulty with...
That's satire, right? Because it's been over fifty years...
I thought it was irony that our transatlantic cousins had difficulty with...
This should be played more.
whatsupdude wrote:
OK now go back to listening to Another Brick in the Wall a hundred times a day.
Please do not insult people you did not even try to understand.
OK now go back to listening to Another Brick in the Wall a hundred times a day.
Please do not insult people you did not even try to understand.
skyhigh_71 wrote:
The statement about Gilmour and Knopfer: I couldn't agree more. They are by far my two favorite lead gutarists. Followed closely by Mick Taylor's contributions to the Stones between '69 and '74.
Without doubt PF with Waters was the best combination, except IMHO the Last Cut, which may as well have been called a Waters solo album.
I know many enjoy solo Waters, sadly I am not one of them.
Gilmour is a genius in my book. He doesn't play especially fast or flashy, he is not a shredder, but his ability to communicate emotion through the guitar is unsurpassed, for me only equaled by Knopfler at his best.
Gilmour led a post Waters PF and produced some very decent work, of which this is an example.
I was fortunate enough to see them at Earls Court London on the Division Bell Tour.
Given that won't ever happen again, check out these guys who do a very fine job: https://youtu.be/c3rZbsLIfSQ
The statement about Gilmour and Knopfer: I couldn't agree more. They are by far my two favorite lead gutarists. Followed closely by Mick Taylor's contributions to the Stones between '69 and '74.
More craftsmanship than inspiration.
FatPants wrote:
Agreed. Showcases among other things the full glory of that guitar tone.
Gilmour is on fire in this solo
Agreed. Showcases among other things the full glory of that guitar tone.
What a fucking good solo ever
I saw this amazing tour at Mile High Stadium, and it was a JAM! Katie and I partied with Ace in his awesome RV parked outside before and after. WILD
You take the high road and I'll take the low road etc.....
Blech
Blech
planet_lizard wrote:
It says more about your wife's taste in music (or otherwise :-D )
My wife just asked if this was Cliff Richard. I think that says a lot about this Pink Floyd era...
It says more about your wife's taste in music (or otherwise :-D )
Does this qualify as bombastic?
My wife just asked if this was Cliff Richard. I think that says a lot about this Pink Floyd era...
Hoosfoos wrote:
Wright returned to the band during the making of this album.
Not really Pink Floyd without Waters or Wright.
Wright returned to the band during the making of this album.
lizardking wrote:
I've always referred to this as "dry Floyd" - without Waters. Not that I don't like it, though it does highlight how fucking awesome Gilmour is at playing guitars. Long Live PF and RP!!
When he finally got his reunion Waters was jumping around like a puppy dog slobbering all over Gilmore. He knew!
I've always referred to this as "dry Floyd" - without Waters. Not that I don't like it, though it does highlight how fucking awesome Gilmour is at playing guitars. Long Live PF and RP!!
When he finally got his reunion Waters was jumping around like a puppy dog slobbering all over Gilmore. He knew!
lizardking wrote:
I've always referred to this as "dry Floyd" - without Waters. Not that I don't like it, though it does highlight how fucking awesome Gilmour is at playing guitars. Long Live PF and RP!!
BS.
I've always referred to this as "dry Floyd" - without Waters. Not that I don't like it, though it does highlight how fucking awesome Gilmour is at playing guitars. Long Live PF and RP!!
BS.
It's true. Brains fully develop with age. I had NO idea what I was singing along to back in 88'-89'.
I wonder if in a few hundred years or so people will look back on the period from industrial revolution onwards as “a momentary lapse of reason” in the human journey?
mandolin wrote:
...i think this is the weakest song from momentary lapse of reason, which as an album i quite like...it's telling that i find RPWL's masters of war cover to be a far stronger song than this original which clearly inspired it; perhaps gilmour and mason should have recruited bob dylan to fill roger waters' shoes...
...i think roger waters' solo work is an outstanding high-water mark of music-as-art, and certainly he didn't hesitate to bring in some of the very best to fill his former bandmates' shoes, including eric clapton, michael kamen, andy brown, and jeff beck among a host of guests, but music-as-art doesn't neccessarily function well as sonic decor, which is where gilmour's new-floyd clearly outpaced roger waters in popular reception...
...which resonates more strongly?..it depends entirely upon which creative vision one embraces, but while i find both efforts eminently savory in their respective contexts, roger waters' augmented albums still achieve a masterwork status which new-floyd's unaugmented outings don't quite attain, timeless though both may be...
OK now go back to listening to Another Brick in the Wall a hundred times a day.
...i think this is the weakest song from momentary lapse of reason, which as an album i quite like...it's telling that i find RPWL's masters of war cover to be a far stronger song than this original which clearly inspired it; perhaps gilmour and mason should have recruited bob dylan to fill roger waters' shoes...
...i think roger waters' solo work is an outstanding high-water mark of music-as-art, and certainly he didn't hesitate to bring in some of the very best to fill his former bandmates' shoes, including eric clapton, michael kamen, andy brown, and jeff beck among a host of guests, but music-as-art doesn't neccessarily function well as sonic decor, which is where gilmour's new-floyd clearly outpaced roger waters in popular reception...
...which resonates more strongly?..it depends entirely upon which creative vision one embraces, but while i find both efforts eminently savory in their respective contexts, roger waters' augmented albums still achieve a masterwork status which new-floyd's unaugmented outings don't quite attain, timeless though both may be...
OK now go back to listening to Another Brick in the Wall a hundred times a day.
RandyChard wrote:
I just saw a documentary on Netflix (recommended) this week on the making of Dark Side of Moon. The band hinted at agreement with your comment. Says Gilmore "Our objective was to become rich and famous. With this record we achieved that and then it was 'Now what?' We were never as all in agreement after that".
The band in agreement or not, Wish you here and the Wall were damn fine works. But yea, in spite of some good songs later on, I think they lost much of their edge after the Wall.
I never bought a Pink Floyd album after Animals, except bootleg live shows from Europe. They were just not the the same. Not back, but no edge!
I just saw a documentary on Netflix (recommended) this week on the making of Dark Side of Moon. The band hinted at agreement with your comment. Says Gilmore "Our objective was to become rich and famous. With this record we achieved that and then it was 'Now what?' We were never as all in agreement after that".
The band in agreement or not, Wish you here and the Wall were damn fine works. But yea, in spite of some good songs later on, I think they lost much of their edge after the Wall.
Over the years this song has simply grown far more powerful. Given the state of our country today and what we are losing it brings me to tears.
mtpowel292 wrote:
250 million albums sold world wide, and having what many consider the best album ever made (Dark side) may not be the definition of under appreciated. But yea, they are awesome - the Animals tour was one of the best concerts I ever went to.
One of the best bands that ever formed. The concert that I saw them was utterly the most amazing show I have ever seen. They are so under appreciated.
250 million albums sold world wide, and having what many consider the best album ever made (Dark side) may not be the definition of under appreciated. But yea, they are awesome - the Animals tour was one of the best concerts I ever went to.
One of the best bands that ever formed. The concert that I saw them was utterly the most amazing show I have ever seen. They are so under appreciated.
Spot on!
lowderek wrote:
never been the same since Sid left
That's satire, right? Because it's been over fifty years...
never been the same since Sid left
I never bought a Pink Floyd album after Animals, except bootleg live shows from Europe. They were just not the the same. Not back, but no edge!
maboleth wrote:
This has happened to me with many artists since I've been listening to RP!!!
The older I am the more I appreciate PF. Is this a sign of getting old or getting better musically? :-/
Hey, stop worrying about WHY you like it now - just go and enjoy the massive collection of music you've just allowed yourself to access This has happened to me with many artists since I've been listening to RP!!!
The older I am the more I appreciate PF. Is this a sign of getting old or getting better musically? :-/
Points for relevance, RP.
Long Live RP
7 -> 8 - Most Excellent
7 -> 8 - Most Excellent
As good as it gets.......Pink Floyd at its peak IMO
Awesome and then some. Thunder and grace, and about 20 minutes too short.
Without doubt PF with Waters was the best combination, except IMHO the Last Cut, which may as well have been called a Waters solo album.
I know many enjoy solo Waters, sadly I am not one of them.
Gilmour is a genius in my book. He doesn't play especially fast or flashy, he is not a shredder, but his ability to communicate emotion through the guitar is unsurpassed, for me only equaled by Knopfler at his best.
Gilmour led a post Waters PF and produced some very decent work, of which this is an example.
I was fortunate enough to see them at Earls Court London on the Division Bell Tour.
Given that won't ever happen again, check out these guys who do a very fine job: https://youtu.be/c3rZbsLIfSQ
I know many enjoy solo Waters, sadly I am not one of them.
Gilmour is a genius in my book. He doesn't play especially fast or flashy, he is not a shredder, but his ability to communicate emotion through the guitar is unsurpassed, for me only equaled by Knopfler at his best.
Gilmour led a post Waters PF and produced some very decent work, of which this is an example.
I was fortunate enough to see them at Earls Court London on the Division Bell Tour.
Given that won't ever happen again, check out these guys who do a very fine job: https://youtu.be/c3rZbsLIfSQ
Definitely one of the best post-Waters tunes.
alexmwalker wrote:
sums it up pretty nicely
I've adored Pink Floyd since my early teens, but I don't need to hear this one again. Preachy, by-the-numbers schmaltz. If Mike and the Mechanics were asked to write a Jingle for Alliance insurance, it would sound like this.
sums it up pretty nicely
Used to listen to this CD many a time while taking a nap on the couch when it was first released.
A very prescient song, given what is happening in the world today.
alexmwalker wrote:
Its not quite that bad but definitely not one of the best tracks on the album.
I've adored Pink Floyd since my early teens, but I don't need to hear this one again. Preachy, by-the-numbers schmaltz. If Mike and the Mechanics were asked to write a Jingle for Alliance insurance, it would sound like this.
Its not quite that bad but definitely not one of the best tracks on the album.
ddbz wrote:
I've always referred to this as "dry Floyd" - without Waters. Not that I don't like it, though it does highlight how fucking awesome Gilmour is at playing guitars. Long Live PF and RP!!
Pink Floyd without Roger? Yuck...Paul and Ringo might as well get back together and call themselves the Beatles.
I've always referred to this as "dry Floyd" - without Waters. Not that I don't like it, though it does highlight how fucking awesome Gilmour is at playing guitars. Long Live PF and RP!!
Gilmour showcasing his awesomeness..
On the suny side there are peaceful sleepers in another time zone. Anyways it was a catalyst in my case.
CHuLoYo wrote:
Unfortunately, this sentiment is not unique to America, nor was it the only place that was happening before the Syrian refugee crisis. I agree that it is a horrible trend, but don't blame America alone on this one.
fredriley wrote:
Yes , this happens because the American spirit that is invading Europe right now. Muslims = Terrorists (I don't think that barbarity). So the 99% of refugees are muslims, for Europe is a dangerous invasion. For people with a brain inside the head this is a fucking barbarity, a crime, an uncompassion method. The history is full of refugees with protection. When we are more advanced than never, right now, the behaviour of the goverments are the opposite of the people opinion. Go out, Europe gobernators! Go to hell fucking idiots!
This is a very apposite song now, with a refugee crisis afflicting Europe, which instead of accepting with sympathy, solidarity and compassion the 00s of 000s of refugees from war-torn countries, is building walls and razor wire fences to keep out the ragged, desperate masses. "No more turning away" - if only :(
Yes , this happens because the American spirit that is invading Europe right now. Muslims = Terrorists (I don't think that barbarity). So the 99% of refugees are muslims, for Europe is a dangerous invasion. For people with a brain inside the head this is a fucking barbarity, a crime, an uncompassion method. The history is full of refugees with protection. When we are more advanced than never, right now, the behaviour of the goverments are the opposite of the people opinion. Go out, Europe gobernators! Go to hell fucking idiots!
Unfortunately, this sentiment is not unique to America, nor was it the only place that was happening before the Syrian refugee crisis. I agree that it is a horrible trend, but don't blame America alone on this one.
I'm thrilled to announce that Mr. Gilmour has decided to give every last quid of his earnings to the homeless!!!
A Momentary Lapse Of Income
fredriley wrote:
Yes , this happens because the American spirit that is invading Europe right now. Muslims = Terrorists (I don't think that barbarity). So the 99% of refugees are muslims, for Europe is a dangerous invasion. For people with a brain inside the head this is a fucking barbarity, a crime, an uncompassion method. The history is full of refugees with protection. When we are more advanced than never, right now, the behaviour of the goverments are the opposite of the people opinion. Go out, Europe gobernators! Go to hell fucking idiots!
This is a very apposite song now, with a refugee crisis afflicting Europe, which instead of accepting with sympathy, solidarity and compassion the 00s of 000s of refugees from war-torn countries, is building walls and razor wire fences to keep out the ragged, desperate masses. "No more turning away" - if only :(
Yes , this happens because the American spirit that is invading Europe right now. Muslims = Terrorists (I don't think that barbarity). So the 99% of refugees are muslims, for Europe is a dangerous invasion. For people with a brain inside the head this is a fucking barbarity, a crime, an uncompassion method. The history is full of refugees with protection. When we are more advanced than never, right now, the behaviour of the goverments are the opposite of the people opinion. Go out, Europe gobernators! Go to hell fucking idiots!
Pink Floyd without Roger? Yuck...Paul and Ringo might as well get back together and call themselves the Beatles.
Gilmour is on fire in this solo
KAREN_SILLERY wrote:
As per the album cover: A Momentary Lapse of Reason
What album is this off of?
As per the album cover: A Momentary Lapse of Reason
What album is this off of?
alexmwalker wrote:
The sentiment might be worthy, but the music doesn't do much for me. A shadow of former greatness.
I've adored Pink Floyd since my early teens, but I don't need to hear this one again. Preachy, by-the-numbers schmaltz. If Mike and the Mechanics were asked to write a Jingle for Alliance insurance, it would sound like this.
The sentiment might be worthy, but the music doesn't do much for me. A shadow of former greatness.
This is a very apposite song now, with a refugee crisis afflicting Europe, which instead of accepting with sympathy, solidarity and compassion the 00s of 000s of refugees from war-torn countries, is building walls and razor wire fences to keep out the ragged, desperate masses. "No more turning away" - if only :(
First listen to Pink Floyd in my '57 Ford Coup on a 4/8 track tape player a loong time ago. This song resonates well with me.
I've adored Pink Floyd since my early teens, but I don't need to hear this one again. Preachy, by-the-numbers schmaltz. If Mike and the Mechanics were asked to write a Jingle for Alliance insurance, it would sound like this.
Tony0600 wrote:
Yes, I stopped buying their albums following release of "Animals". They became too commercial for my taste.
I agree. I think Pink Floyd have constantly tried to exploit the guitar sound on tracks like Time and Money on their later albums. I tend not to listen to much after The Wall....
Yes, I stopped buying their albums following release of "Animals". They became too commercial for my taste.
The very good lyrics would have benefited from a more more restrained approach. No need for the long guitar solo outro, or the overdone mid-section.
Less would have been more here, imo, bcs it has the nut of a very fine song.
Less would have been more here, imo, bcs it has the nut of a very fine song.
can someone say bombastic? a rock solid 3
gregormiz wrote:
I agree. I think Pink Floyd have constantly tried to exploit the guitar sound on tracks like Time and Money on their later albums. I tend not to listen to much after The Wall....
One more rehash of a sound that got old after Dark Side of the Moon.
Yes, "Comfortably Numb" has legs, this one doesn't. MTV trash at its worst.
Oh GOD... the guitar solo... kill me now.
Yes, "Comfortably Numb" has legs, this one doesn't. MTV trash at its worst.
Oh GOD... the guitar solo... kill me now.
I agree. I think Pink Floyd have constantly tried to exploit the guitar sound on tracks like Time and Money on their later albums. I tend not to listen to much after The Wall....
I grew up listening to Pink Floyd - first band I ever saw in 1974 - Dark Side of The Moon time. I don't think this rates as good as The Wall and stuff before it.
Not really Pink Floyd without Waters or Wright.
There are really, really amazing comments in this thread, wow.
Among a lot of other things, they helped me understand what happened to my relationship with PF just before this album came out.
I started listening to PF thanks to my older brother when I was 12 (1978.) I have incredibly strong feelings and memories associated to all their albums until 'The Wall' included.
I was swimming in their music, breathing through it.
After The Wall, I just was... fed. In the best sense of the word. I didn't need more PF, wasn't in synch with them anymore, and I consider Water's departure as being only one of the numerous reasons I disconnected with them.
It just so happens that, just when he left the band, I moved on to other music, bands, arts.
I'm actually really glad to hear so many people having positive things to say about this tune and this album. It comforts me to know that even with Waters gone, people kept having great experiences listening to PF.
And when Gilmour plays a guitar solo, the world's a MUCH better place to me. 40 years ago just as well as today.
Among a lot of other things, they helped me understand what happened to my relationship with PF just before this album came out.
I started listening to PF thanks to my older brother when I was 12 (1978.) I have incredibly strong feelings and memories associated to all their albums until 'The Wall' included.
I was swimming in their music, breathing through it.
After The Wall, I just was... fed. In the best sense of the word. I didn't need more PF, wasn't in synch with them anymore, and I consider Water's departure as being only one of the numerous reasons I disconnected with them.
It just so happens that, just when he left the band, I moved on to other music, bands, arts.
I'm actually really glad to hear so many people having positive things to say about this tune and this album. It comforts me to know that even with Waters gone, people kept having great experiences listening to PF.
And when Gilmour plays a guitar solo, the world's a MUCH better place to me. 40 years ago just as well as today.
Sweeeeeeeeet Lazarus wrote:
No more turning the FBI away...
These lyrics have nothing to do with political issues of command and control. Rather, they are about our en masse personal failures to care.for the lost and broken.
No more turning the FBI away...
Judge orders Google to comply with FBI's secret NSL demands
A federal judge tells the company to comply with the FBI's warrantless National Security Letter requests for user details, despite ongoing concerns about their constitutionality...
These lyrics have nothing to do with political issues of command and control. Rather, they are about our en masse personal failures to care.for the lost and broken.
Everybody in my homeless camp loves this song...
like from on high....teach me
kingart wrote:
Kind of what I said.
The passion of this is on a really high plane. That guitar is almost overwhelming. So not the first time I cry on hearing it. One problem: it's about 20 minutes too short.
Kind of what I said.
Beautiful transition from Life on Mars...Bowie. The art of an instrumental within a 4 minute song is an art of a lost and forgotten world. The guitar solo is a an expression that rarely gets explored anymore. Such a sad thing! Luckily David Gilmour provides nearly every time, which always evokes emotion from me.
Pink Floyd barbification
Nice during running: when that solo starts you can run twice as fast
TwinEngine wrote:
The summary of your comment is that you don't like Roger Waters.
I think this is my favorite Pink Floyd song, and I'm not really a fan (in proportion to HOW POPULAR they are). They are musically interesting, but I always had difficulty getting over the sledgehammer rhetoric in their most popular songs: "mother this" and "money that" and "bricks in the wall". Perhaps because this one has an earnest as opposed to a skeptical viewpoint, and "on the turning away" is subtler, it works for me.
The summary of your comment is that you don't like Roger Waters.
gregormiz wrote:
I hope you go to a heaven without Gilmour guitar solo's, and I hope when I do, I will not go there too.
One more rehash of a sound that got old after Dark Side of the Moon.
Yes, "Comfortably Numb" has legs, this one doesn't. MTV trash at its worst.
Oh GOD... the guitar solo... kill me now.
Yes, "Comfortably Numb" has legs, this one doesn't. MTV trash at its worst.
Oh GOD... the guitar solo... kill me now.
I hope you go to a heaven without Gilmour guitar solo's, and I hope when I do, I will not go there too.
ziakut wrote:
Absolutely. Fortunately there are still bands that do a very satisfying solo now and then... Porcupine Tree always comes to mind.
Unwittingly have to say I enjoy this song. It's not my favorite PF tune, but it does have a majestic cadence to it. It brings back memories to me...grand or small. Like a slide show that replays with perfect transitions. I personally miss the essence of a guitar solo in a rock song. Something that is truly missing in today's music. It allowed another expression of the song. The lyric has its say...then the music. Sometimes when the solo mimicked the melody a bit...it always provided a thrill to me. David Gilmour was a master at this!
Absolutely. Fortunately there are still bands that do a very satisfying solo now and then... Porcupine Tree always comes to mind.
Better than their old stuff.
The passion of this is on a really high plane. That guitar is almost overwhelming. So not the first time I cry on hearing it. One problem: it's about 20 minutes too short.
This gets a 10. Live version gets a 12.
Unwittingly have to say I enjoy this song. It's not my favorite PF tune, but it does have a majestic cadence to it. It brings back memories to me...grand or small. Like a slide show that replays with perfect transitions. I personally miss the essence of a guitar solo in a rock song. Something that is truly missing in today's music. It allowed another expression of the song. The lyric has its say...then the music. Sometimes when the solo mimicked the melody a bit...it always provided a thrill to me. David Gilmour was a master at this!
Hodgie wrote:
This is beautiful, eloquent stuff. You have captured the essence of what music means, and reading this with "On the Turning Away" as its soundtrack makes it that much more meaningful. Thanks for writing this - your father would be proud.
People who listen to RP have a greater appreciation for music than your average citizen.
Many of us have very strong associations and memories with specific songs that get played on RP.
On The Turning Away.
It's January of 1988 and my father passes away. I fly down to the Florida Panhandle from UMass. In the days preceding and post his funeral, I spend a lot of time in cars, driving from place to place. Everywhere I go, I hear this song. Even at two separate taverns, this song finds me. Must have heard it 8 times in 5 days.
My father was a very flawed man with a huge heart and a wonderful sense of humor. I admittingly don't think that much about him any more, 22 years after his passing. When this song plays however, it feels like I lost him yesterday.
Could not live without music.....
Many of us have very strong associations and memories with specific songs that get played on RP.
On The Turning Away.
It's January of 1988 and my father passes away. I fly down to the Florida Panhandle from UMass. In the days preceding and post his funeral, I spend a lot of time in cars, driving from place to place. Everywhere I go, I hear this song. Even at two separate taverns, this song finds me. Must have heard it 8 times in 5 days.
My father was a very flawed man with a huge heart and a wonderful sense of humor. I admittingly don't think that much about him any more, 22 years after his passing. When this song plays however, it feels like I lost him yesterday.
Could not live without music.....
This is beautiful, eloquent stuff. You have captured the essence of what music means, and reading this with "On the Turning Away" as its soundtrack makes it that much more meaningful. Thanks for writing this - your father would be proud.
martinc wrote:
Yep, that will do.
I can't believe I never rated this one. 10.
A great album, start to finish.
I just love screaming guitar songs
Yep, that will do.
I can't believe I never rated this one. 10.
A great album, start to finish.
Top#3 PF...
As a respite from the overblown egocentric Waters, this is a little treat.
mandolin wrote:
...i think this is the weakest song from momentary lapse of reason, which as an album i quite like...it's telling that i find RPWL's masters of war cover to be a far stronger song than this original which clearly inspired it; perhaps gilmour and mason should have recruited bob dylan to fill roger waters' shoes...
...i think roger waters' solo work is an outstanding high-water mark of music-as-art, and certainly he didn't hesitate to bring in some of the very best to fill his former bandmates' shoes, including eric clapton, michael kamen, andy brown, and jeff beck among a host of guests, but music-as-art doesn't neccessarily function well as sonic decor, which is where gilmour's new-floyd clearly outpaced roger waters in popular reception...
...which resonates more strongly?..it depends entirely upon which creative vision one embraces, but while i find both efforts eminently savory in their respective contexts, roger waters' augmented albums still achieve a masterwork status which new-floyd's unaugmented outings don't quite attain, timeless though both may be...
mandolin wrote:
...i think this is the weakest song from momentary lapse of reason, which as an album i quite like...it's telling that i find RPWL's masters of war cover to be a far stronger song than this original which clearly inspired it; perhaps gilmour and mason should have recruited bob dylan to fill roger waters' shoes...
...i think roger waters' solo work is an outstanding high-water mark of music-as-art, and certainly he didn't hesitate to bring in some of the very best to fill his former bandmates' shoes, including eric clapton, michael kamen, andy brown, and jeff beck among a host of guests, but music-as-art doesn't neccessarily function well as sonic decor, which is where gilmour's new-floyd clearly outpaced roger waters in popular reception...
...which resonates more strongly?..it depends entirely upon which creative vision one embraces, but while i find both efforts eminently savory in their respective contexts, roger waters' augmented albums still achieve a masterwork status which new-floyd's unaugmented outings don't quite attain, timeless though both may be...
Relayer wrote:
...i think this is the weakest song from momentary lapse of reason, which as an album i quite like...it's telling that i find RPWL's masters of war cover to be a far stronger song than this original which clearly inspired it; perhaps gilmour and mason should have recruited bob dylan to fill roger waters' shoes...
...i think roger waters' solo work is an outstanding high-water mark of music-as-art, and certainly he didn't hesitate to bring in some of the very best to fill his former bandmates' shoes, including eric clapton, michael kamen, andy brown, and jeff beck among a host of guests, but music-as-art doesn't neccessarily function well as sonic decor, which is where gilmour's new-floyd clearly outpaced roger waters in popular reception...
...which resonates more strongly?..it depends entirely upon which creative vision one embraces, but while i find both efforts eminently savory in their respective contexts, roger waters' augmented albums still achieve a masterwork status which new-floyd's unaugmented outings don't quite attain, timeless though both may be...
In 1987, Waters was only recurring songs that were fevered rants about everything. Far from his talents in the 70s. Here we have Gilmour doing a great song; incredible music, good lyrics, and it resonates more than the 80s Waters stuff. Love Gilmour.
...i think this is the weakest song from momentary lapse of reason, which as an album i quite like...it's telling that i find RPWL's masters of war cover to be a far stronger song than this original which clearly inspired it; perhaps gilmour and mason should have recruited bob dylan to fill roger waters' shoes...
...i think roger waters' solo work is an outstanding high-water mark of music-as-art, and certainly he didn't hesitate to bring in some of the very best to fill his former bandmates' shoes, including eric clapton, michael kamen, andy brown, and jeff beck among a host of guests, but music-as-art doesn't neccessarily function well as sonic decor, which is where gilmour's new-floyd clearly outpaced roger waters in popular reception...
...which resonates more strongly?..it depends entirely upon which creative vision one embraces, but while i find both efforts eminently savory in their respective contexts, roger waters' augmented albums still achieve a masterwork status which new-floyd's unaugmented outings don't quite attain, timeless though both may be...
Got a portable cd player from my parents for a birthday present when i was a kid. First cd player I ever had. The next present was a disc... Dark Side of the Moon. Little did I know how important that present would be in my influencing my musical taste.
First concert I ever went to was the tour that supported this album. Blew me away!
First concert I ever went to was the tour that supported this album. Blew me away!
I just love screaming guitar songs
*SIGH*
i can't even think of anything witty to say that encapsulates my blah for this album.
i can't even think of anything witty to say that encapsulates my blah for this album.
scrubbrush wrote:
I like your comment about it being 'real' Floyd and am agreed. Although you can definitely pick out Animals and Wall in the song. Personally I liked his(Gilmore) solo stuff especially 'About Face' and songs like 'Murder'(thats one killer tune if you're a guitar nut).
Gilmour is just about my favorite guitarist.
Waters is by FAR my favorite lyricist.
Although i don't consider this 'real' Pink Floyd, it's a great song
Waters is by FAR my favorite lyricist.
Although i don't consider this 'real' Pink Floyd, it's a great song
I like your comment about it being 'real' Floyd and am agreed. Although you can definitely pick out Animals and Wall in the song. Personally I liked his(Gilmore) solo stuff especially 'About Face' and songs like 'Murder'(thats one killer tune if you're a guitar nut).
In 1987, Waters was only recurring songs that were fevered rants about everything. Far from his talents in the 70s. Here we have Gilmour doing a great song; incredible music, good lyrics, and it resonates more than the 80s Waters stuff. Love Gilmour.
Gilmour is just about my favorite guitarist.
Waters is by FAR my favorite lyricist.
Although i don't consider this 'real' Pink Floyd, it's a great song
Waters is by FAR my favorite lyricist.
Although i don't consider this 'real' Pink Floyd, it's a great song
brandue wrote:
It's "Gilmour"
This is Gilmore at his best.
It's "Gilmour"Of all the incredible Pink Floyd songs, this one? Arrrgghh
One more rehash of a sound that got old after Dark Side of the Moon.
Yes, "Comfortably Numb" has legs, this one doesn't. MTV trash at its worst.
Oh GOD... the guitar solo... kill me now.
Yes, "Comfortably Numb" has legs, this one doesn't. MTV trash at its worst.
Oh GOD... the guitar solo... kill me now.
ch83575 wrote:
Lyrics and vocals lack emotion without Waters. Music lacks depth without Wright. The whole is no longer more than just the sum of its parts... as a matter of fact it might be less. At least David can still play that axe.
I couldn't agree less with this...The voice was as good as ever; Yet Another Movie could and should have been a classic by itself, and needs some play here, by the way!!! Depth, to me actually defines this LP.....Everybody loves PF as they were, but THIS PF was excellent all on it's own!!!
Lyrics and vocals lack emotion without Waters. Music lacks depth without Wright. The whole is no longer more than just the sum of its parts... as a matter of fact it might be less. At least David can still play that axe.
I couldn't agree less with this...The voice was as good as ever; Yet Another Movie could and should have been a classic by itself, and needs some play here, by the way!!! Depth, to me actually defines this LP.....Everybody loves PF as they were, but THIS PF was excellent all on it's own!!!
This is Gilmore at his best.
Oh heavenly bliss!! Food for my ears...One of the better songs from this album!!
Hodgie wrote:
Well put.
And I agree fully.
People who listen to RP have a greater appreciation for music than your average citizen.
Could not live without music.....
Could not live without music.....
Well put.
And I agree fully.
People who listen to RP have a greater appreciation for music than your average citizen.
Many of us have very strong associations and memories with specific songs that get played on RP.
On The Turning Away.
It's January of 1988 and my father passes away. I fly down to the Florida Panhandle from UMass. In the days preceding and post his funeral, I spend a lot of time in cars, driving from place to place. Everywhere I go, I hear this song. Even at two separate taverns, this song finds me. Must have heard it 8 times in 5 days.
My father was a very flawed man with a huge heart and a wonderful sense of humor. I admittingly don't think that much about him any more, 22 years after his passing. When this song plays however, it feels like I lost him yesterday.
Could not live without music.....
Many of us have very strong associations and memories with specific songs that get played on RP.
On The Turning Away.
It's January of 1988 and my father passes away. I fly down to the Florida Panhandle from UMass. In the days preceding and post his funeral, I spend a lot of time in cars, driving from place to place. Everywhere I go, I hear this song. Even at two separate taverns, this song finds me. Must have heard it 8 times in 5 days.
My father was a very flawed man with a huge heart and a wonderful sense of humor. I admittingly don't think that much about him any more, 22 years after his passing. When this song plays however, it feels like I lost him yesterday.
Could not live without music.....
My favourite track too, especially the epic live version, dunno of which concert but the version that's been officially released on CD...
As far as Pink Floyd, i think they're great but after a few listens they lose my attention, it's really nice and all but i miss the spark... I once made a personal "Best Of" CD of all the Pink Floyd albums but that one almost never touches the CD player...
This one:
9
As far as Pink Floyd, i think they're great but after a few listens they lose my attention, it's really nice and all but i miss the spark... I once made a personal "Best Of" CD of all the Pink Floyd albums but that one almost never touches the CD player...
This one:
9
# 10.
Really enjoy this era of PF. If memory serves, Gary Moore helped out rather nicely on the a;bum.
Thanks BG!
Thanks BG!
ch83575 wrote:
Lyrics and vocals lack emotion without Waters. Music lacks depth without Wright. The whole is no longer more than just the sum of its parts... as a matter of fact it might be less. At least David can still play that axe.
Lyrics and vocals lack emotion without Waters. Music lacks depth without Wright. The whole is no longer more than just the sum of its parts... as a matter of fact it might be less. At least David can still play that axe.
Though nowhere near approaching their epic early to mid 70's albums; this is a pretty good song.
epic
I remember helping a friend write a speech using this song as the symbolic basis when I was in Middle School. I think of him whenever I hear it. Nick, I hope you are doing fine. By their own admission, the members of PF were no virtuosos. Still, it all worked for me, and very well.
Was living and breathing Pink Floyd during it's time - composition = 8, complexity = 7, execution = 10
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And now....back to your regularly scheduled program ==> Pink Floyd - On The Turning Away
David Bowie - Life on Mars?
Coldplay - Lost?
David Bowie - Life on Mars?
Coldplay - Lost?
TexasAggies wrote:
I think he means that this album was the least "Pink Floyd" of any of theirs. This album was basically David Gilmour solo with a bunch of co-writers. Nick and Rick were not really involved until late in the process and the ensuing tour, nor did they help write any of the songs. Tony Levin was among the session musicians that appear on this disc, also Carmen Appice.
Lyrics and vocals lack emotion without Waters. Music lacks depth without Wright. The whole is no longer more than just the sum of its parts... as a matter of fact it might be less. At least David can still play that axe.
I think he means that this album was the least "Pink Floyd" of any of theirs. This album was basically David Gilmour solo with a bunch of co-writers. Nick and Rick were not really involved until late in the process and the ensuing tour, nor did they help write any of the songs. Tony Levin was among the session musicians that appear on this disc, also Carmen Appice.
Lyrics and vocals lack emotion without Waters. Music lacks depth without Wright. The whole is no longer more than just the sum of its parts... as a matter of fact it might be less. At least David can still play that axe.
Ericac wrote:
Another work stopper, up goes the volume. The guitar solo soars.
lophrequa wrote:
i love cock-rock
So you are a big fan of the Beastie Boys first album then?
i love cock-rock
So you are a big fan of the Beastie Boys first album then?
bugleboy624 wrote:
Well I must be a freak too because I looked at your rating list and I agree with most of it.
Love this song too. I thought this album was excellent and very much in the Pink Floyd spirit of old. Everyone has their favorite PF albums. Mine happens to be "Animals".
Yes, I'm the RP freak. I like songs and artists that everyone hates. I should probably just change my profile name to "RP Wierdo".
Well I must be a freak too because I looked at your rating list and I agree with most of it.
Love this song too. I thought this album was excellent and very much in the Pink Floyd spirit of old. Everyone has their favorite PF albums. Mine happens to be "Animals".
Anyone else out there in Radio Paradise Land have some sort of strong tie to this song? Meaning, a VERY SPECIFIC memory attached that stops you in your tracks when this song plays? My guess is an affirmative because how this song plays.
i love sarcasm. his voice in this song is beautiful, but i am a fan of older pink floyd.
thewiseking wrote:
alas, what fresh hell is this?
reminds one of Richard Clayderman or Yanni.
stripped down Floyd. the bones are bared.
reminds one of Richard Clayderman or Yanni.
stripped down Floyd. the bones are bared.
ncollingridge wrote:
Absolutely. This is just tedious, obvious, cock-rock, with no redeeming aspects.
i love cock-rock
Absolutely. This is just tedious, obvious, cock-rock, with no redeeming aspects.
i love cock-rock
twp wrote:
Absolutely. This is just tedious, obvious, cock-rock, with no redeeming aspects. How the might are fallen - that this could be the same band responsible for the sensitivity and soul of Dark Side of the Moon is almost impossible to believe. The band should be ashamed that they released this track under the name of the band, demeaning its great heritage.
I'm a Floyd fan from way back, but I can't stand this record. I'll totally admit that Waters' navel-gazing and self-pitying routine got pretty old, but I still prefer it to this treacly, overproduced, trite nonsense. I actually had to turn off RP until this song was over, it gets on my nerves so much.
Absolutely. This is just tedious, obvious, cock-rock, with no redeeming aspects. How the might are fallen - that this could be the same band responsible for the sensitivity and soul of Dark Side of the Moon is almost impossible to believe. The band should be ashamed that they released this track under the name of the band, demeaning its great heritage.
This song just has terrific lyrics:
On the turning away
From the pale and downtrodden
And the words they say
Which we won't understand
"Don't accept that what's happening
Is just a case of others' suffering
Or you'll find that you're joining in
The turning away ...
It's a sin that somehow
Light is changing to shadow
And casting it's shroud
Over all we have known
Unaware how the ranks have grown
Driven on by a heart of stone
We could find that we're all alone
In the dream of the proud
On the wings of the night
As the daytime is stirring
Where the speechless unite
In a silent accord
Using words you will find are strange
And mesmerised as they light the flame
Feel the new wind of change
On the wings of the night
No more turning away
From the weak and the weary
No more turning away
From the coldness inside
Just a world that we all must share
It's not enough just to stand and stare
Is it only a dream that there'll be
No more turning away?
To me it says one shouldn't turn their heart to stone, that good can and must prevail, and it is our duty to reach out and make it happen and not turn away.
On the turning away
From the pale and downtrodden
And the words they say
Which we won't understand
"Don't accept that what's happening
Is just a case of others' suffering
Or you'll find that you're joining in
The turning away ...
It's a sin that somehow
Light is changing to shadow
And casting it's shroud
Over all we have known
Unaware how the ranks have grown
Driven on by a heart of stone
We could find that we're all alone
In the dream of the proud
On the wings of the night
As the daytime is stirring
Where the speechless unite
In a silent accord
Using words you will find are strange
And mesmerised as they light the flame
Feel the new wind of change
On the wings of the night
No more turning away
From the weak and the weary
No more turning away
From the coldness inside
Just a world that we all must share
It's not enough just to stand and stare
Is it only a dream that there'll be
No more turning away?
To me it says one shouldn't turn their heart to stone, that good can and must prevail, and it is our duty to reach out and make it happen and not turn away.
I'm a Floyd fan from way back, but I can't stand this record. I'll totally admit that Waters' navel-gazing and self-pitying routine got pretty old, but I still prefer it to this treacly, overproduced, trite nonsense. I actually had to turn off RP until this song was over, it gets on my nerves so much.
PF lost me after Animals. Saw them live twice. Milwaukee County stadium in 1976 and Soldier Field in 1977. After that, Roger lost interest in songwriting for PF, which was their strong point. Nothing else ever came close to that. The Wall was a total disappointment. 4 sides of vinyl with the same song played over and over. I adore David Gilmour, the ultimate rock god, but without Roger, they became a shell of their former selves.
Roger Waters was an idiot for how he tried to betray his former band mates. I think its great how their music got better without him.