The Wailin' Jennys — Starlight
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I have come back to you broken
take me home
And my body bears this trouble
take me home
Take me back to my beginning
Before the hell of night set in
And I came to this border
take me home
I have toured the endless starlight
take me home
I have shattered under midnight
take me home
There are no vultures in this clearing
Except the ones who brought me here
And I'll no longer feed them
take me home
Kingdom come, their will was done
And now the earth is far away
from any kind of heaven
Hallowed be these frozen fields
And every single one of us
still left in want of mercy
Take us home
Now the bells stand still and hollow
take me home
And no one has come to mourn me
take me home
Find me where I close my eyes
Beneath this sky of powerlines
And let me see us clearly
take me home
Kingdom come, their will was done
And now the earth is far away
from any kind of heaven
Hallowed be these frozen fields
And every single one of us
Still left in want of mercy
Take us home...
take me home
And my body bears this trouble
take me home
Take me back to my beginning
Before the hell of night set in
And I came to this border
take me home
I have toured the endless starlight
take me home
I have shattered under midnight
take me home
There are no vultures in this clearing
Except the ones who brought me here
And I'll no longer feed them
take me home
Kingdom come, their will was done
And now the earth is far away
from any kind of heaven
Hallowed be these frozen fields
And every single one of us
still left in want of mercy
Take us home
Now the bells stand still and hollow
take me home
And no one has come to mourn me
take me home
Find me where I close my eyes
Beneath this sky of powerlines
And let me see us clearly
take me home
Kingdom come, their will was done
And now the earth is far away
from any kind of heaven
Hallowed be these frozen fields
And every single one of us
Still left in want of mercy
Take us home...
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Fantastic band - great musicianship and excellent songwriting.
Imagining Frazey Ford's "Firecracker"...
silverghost57 wrote:
Had the good fortune to see these ladies preform back around 2010...after the show I found out that the president of Martin Guitars was sitting right next to us....a magical concert.
And they sound just as good Live, its not studio magic with these 3 , wonderful
Had the good fortune to see these ladies preform back around 2010...after the show I found out that the president of Martin Guitars was sitting right next to us....a magical concert.
I am so bummed -- I had tickets to see the Jenny's LIVE in April . Concert cancelled due to Corona panic.
khardog145 wrote:
Tempting.
I am easily entertained.
Tempting.
Oh, such a delight to hear these gals harmonize.
I am easily entertained. Glorious. Their voices are so moving.
Boring. Much better out there in this genre.
ziggytrix wrote:
and here I am waffling over whether to keep it at 9 or bump it to 10...
i think it's somewhere in the middle
and here I am waffling over whether to keep it at 9 or bump it to 10...
i think it's somewhere in the middle
Dragonfly_Launch wrote:
and here I am waffling over whether to keep it at 9 or bump it to 10...
Why vote a 1 ever? And for this song? You think Bill ever plays a 1? Don't be stupid.
and here I am waffling over whether to keep it at 9 or bump it to 10...
Why vote a 1 ever? And for this song? You think Bill ever plays a 1? Don't be stupid.
This song/CD I have been listening to for several yrs now since it was given as a gift. Continues to grow on me - whole album is gorgeous
bagpipe wrote:
Intentional pun by the band I think. Alas, there's no Waylon Jennings in RP's library, except for one duet with Willie that's never actually been played and one track by The Highwaymen that hasn't been played in almost a decade!
In his introduction, I heard Bill say it as "Waylon Jennings". Was a bit confused for a second at the begining! Anyway - really like this. Even if it isn't Waylon Jennings.
Intentional pun by the band I think. Alas, there's no Waylon Jennings in RP's library, except for one duet with Willie that's never actually been played and one track by The Highwaymen that hasn't been played in almost a decade!
cosmiclint wrote:
I think you're talking about Neil Stonechild, who died of exposure in a field on the outskirts of Saskatoon on a night when temperatures were below -28 Celsius. He had last been seen in police custody.
The practice of police driving people outside of town and abandoning them is known as a "Starlight Tour," hence the title of the song.
Closer to home for me, a Mi'kmaq man by the name of Frank Paul was picked up by Vancouver police in 1998 for being drunk in a public place. The Sergeant in charge of the city drunk tank refused to take him in. Instead, he was dumped in an alley, soaking wet, where he later died of hypothermia. An inquiry in to his death condemned not only the actions of the police, but also the Justice System, which attempted to cover up the role the police played in his death.
I've always thought this was a song about refugees - name your country and conflict. Unfortunately too many to single out.
I think you're talking about Neil Stonechild, who died of exposure in a field on the outskirts of Saskatoon on a night when temperatures were below -28 Celsius. He had last been seen in police custody.
The practice of police driving people outside of town and abandoning them is known as a "Starlight Tour," hence the title of the song.
Closer to home for me, a Mi'kmaq man by the name of Frank Paul was picked up by Vancouver police in 1998 for being drunk in a public place. The Sergeant in charge of the city drunk tank refused to take him in. Instead, he was dumped in an alley, soaking wet, where he later died of hypothermia. An inquiry in to his death condemned not only the actions of the police, but also the Justice System, which attempted to cover up the role the police played in his death.
I've always thought this was a song about refugees - name your country and conflict. Unfortunately too many to single out.
Still really like this tune.
Check out the The Shook Twins as they are somewhat similar.
The Shook Twins - Growing Things
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM6SMQa5MGA
Check out the The Shook Twins as they are somewhat similar.
The Shook Twins - Growing Things
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM6SMQa5MGA
cosmiclint wrote:
I think you're talking about Neil Stonechild, who died of exposure in a field on the outskirts of Saskatoon on a night when temperatures were below -28 Celsius. He had last been seen in police custody.
The practice of police driving people outside of town and abandoning them is known as a "Starlight Tour," hence the title of the song.
Closer to home for me, a Mi'kmaq man by the name of Frank Paul was picked up by Vancouver police in 1998 for being drunk in a public place. The Sergeant in charge of the city drunk tank refused to take him in. Instead, he was dumped in an alley, soaking wet, where he later died of hypothermia. An inquiry in to his death condemned not only the actions of the police, but also the Justice System, which attempted to cover up the role the police played in his death.
Context is everything. Bump. 10.
I think you're talking about Neil Stonechild, who died of exposure in a field on the outskirts of Saskatoon on a night when temperatures were below -28 Celsius. He had last been seen in police custody.
The practice of police driving people outside of town and abandoning them is known as a "Starlight Tour," hence the title of the song.
Closer to home for me, a Mi'kmaq man by the name of Frank Paul was picked up by Vancouver police in 1998 for being drunk in a public place. The Sergeant in charge of the city drunk tank refused to take him in. Instead, he was dumped in an alley, soaking wet, where he later died of hypothermia. An inquiry in to his death condemned not only the actions of the police, but also the Justice System, which attempted to cover up the role the police played in his death.
Context is everything. Bump. 10.
Love it!
Vocals are magical, instrumentation awesome. Love this track,
In his introduction, I heard Bill say it as "Waylon Jennings". Was a bit confused for a second at the begining! Anyway - really like this. Even if it isn't Waylon Jennings.
I prefer my politics straight. OTOH, I enjoy the voices and arrangement. They work best for me as singles in rotation rather than a whold CD or concert ... Like cheesecake, a little is pleasant but more is not. That's my preference.
ckcotton wrote:
Definitely a change of pace, not boring at all though. Thats what RP is all about.
Same story 2 months later... Still boring
Definitely a change of pace, not boring at all though. Thats what RP is all about.
I just love some of that hometown Dixie music,Roscoe,cucucuð
cosmiclint wrote:
I think you're talking about Neil Stonechild, who died of exposure in a field on the outskirts of Saskatoon on a night when temperatures were below -28 Celsius. He had last been seen in police custody.
The practice of police driving people outside of town and abandoning them is known as a "Starlight Tour," hence the title of the song.
Closer to home for me, a Mi'kmaq man by the name of Frank Paul was picked up by Vancouver police in 1998 for being drunk in a public place. The Sergeant in charge of the city drunk tank refused to take him in. Instead, he was dumped in an alley, soaking wet, where he later died of hypothermia. An inquiry in to his death condemned not only the actions of the police, but also the Justice System, which attempted to cover up the role the police played in his death.
This is why this song is so great, and so sad.
I think you're talking about Neil Stonechild, who died of exposure in a field on the outskirts of Saskatoon on a night when temperatures were below -28 Celsius. He had last been seen in police custody.
The practice of police driving people outside of town and abandoning them is known as a "Starlight Tour," hence the title of the song.
Closer to home for me, a Mi'kmaq man by the name of Frank Paul was picked up by Vancouver police in 1998 for being drunk in a public place. The Sergeant in charge of the city drunk tank refused to take him in. Instead, he was dumped in an alley, soaking wet, where he later died of hypothermia. An inquiry in to his death condemned not only the actions of the police, but also the Justice System, which attempted to cover up the role the police played in his death.
This is why this song is so great, and so sad.
Boriiiiiiing 
Disagree, but I'm not going to reply to a specific commenter. I've learned something new today, though I've done no research to it's validity, but something nonetheless.
Same story 2 months later... Still boring
What a letdown from Floyd's Animals.....
cosmiclint wrote:
I think you're talking about Neil Stonechild, who died of exposure in a field on the outskirts of Saskatoon on a night when temperatures were below -28 Celsius. He had last been seen in police custody.
The practice of police driving people outside of town and abandoning them is known as a "Starlight Tour," hence the title of the song.
Closer to home for me, a Mi'kmaq man by the name of Frank Paul was picked up by Vancouver police in 1998 for being drunk in a public place. The Sergeant in charge of the city drunk tank refused to take him in. Instead, he was dumped in an alley, soaking wet, where he later died of hypothermia. An inquiry in to his death condemned not only the actions of the police, but also the Justice System, which attempted to cover up the role the police played in his death.
thanks for the clarification.
I think you're talking about Neil Stonechild, who died of exposure in a field on the outskirts of Saskatoon on a night when temperatures were below -28 Celsius. He had last been seen in police custody.
The practice of police driving people outside of town and abandoning them is known as a "Starlight Tour," hence the title of the song.
Closer to home for me, a Mi'kmaq man by the name of Frank Paul was picked up by Vancouver police in 1998 for being drunk in a public place. The Sergeant in charge of the city drunk tank refused to take him in. Instead, he was dumped in an alley, soaking wet, where he later died of hypothermia. An inquiry in to his death condemned not only the actions of the police, but also the Justice System, which attempted to cover up the role the police played in his death.
thanks for the clarification.
apd wrote:
To be specific: I think this song refers to an incident when a couple of white cops in Alberta, Canada, rode an Indian guy out of a small town and dumped him on the side of the road. He froze to death and they where prosecuted. Seems it's not the only time it happened but we really should be specific: not all white guys, not even all white cops, and not everywhere in Canada.
And yes, the Jennys have an excellent live show.
I think you're talking about Neil Stonechild, who died of exposure in a field on the outskirts of Saskatoon on a night when temperatures were below -28 Celsius. He had last been seen in police custody.
The practice of police driving people outside of town and abandoning them is known as a "Starlight Tour," hence the title of the song.
Closer to home for me, a Mi'kmaq man by the name of Frank Paul was picked up by Vancouver police in 1998 for being drunk in a public place. The Sergeant in charge of the city drunk tank refused to take him in. Instead, he was dumped in an alley, soaking wet, where he later died of hypothermia. An inquiry in to his death condemned not only the actions of the police, but also the Justice System, which attempted to cover up the role the police played in his death.
To be specific: I think this song refers to an incident when a couple of white cops in Alberta, Canada, rode an Indian guy out of a small town and dumped him on the side of the road. He froze to death and they where prosecuted. Seems it's not the only time it happened but we really should be specific: not all white guys, not even all white cops, and not everywhere in Canada.
And yes, the Jennys have an excellent live show.
I think you're talking about Neil Stonechild, who died of exposure in a field on the outskirts of Saskatoon on a night when temperatures were below -28 Celsius. He had last been seen in police custody.
The practice of police driving people outside of town and abandoning them is known as a "Starlight Tour," hence the title of the song.
Closer to home for me, a Mi'kmaq man by the name of Frank Paul was picked up by Vancouver police in 1998 for being drunk in a public place. The Sergeant in charge of the city drunk tank refused to take him in. Instead, he was dumped in an alley, soaking wet, where he later died of hypothermia. An inquiry in to his death condemned not only the actions of the police, but also the Justice System, which attempted to cover up the role the police played in his death.
Hailin' The Wailin'!I'm from Winnipeg and these Winnipeg gals make me proud...
Beautiful babes.
wailin' they got the name right.
Businessgypsy wrote:
Isn't it lovely? Nice grainy stock, too. Try doing that on a mp3 icon!
Great letterpress cover art!
Isn't it lovely? Nice grainy stock, too. Try doing that on a mp3 icon!
Peace of art, very beautiful 
I love the banjo work and harmony of their voices is haunting to me.
Meh
apd wrote:
...not all white guys, not even all white cops, and not everywhere in Canada...
Thank you. Racial profiling and stereotyping run amok. Great letterpress cover art!Love the Jennys!
hippiechick wrote:
To be specific: I think this song refers to an incident when a couple of white cops in Alberta, Canada, rode an Indian guy out of a small town and dumped him on the side of the road. He froze to death and they where prosecuted. Seems it's not the only time it happened but we really should be specific: not all white guys, not even all white cops, and not everywhere in Canada.
And yes, the Jennys have an excellent live show.
Apparently, in Canada, when the Indians got drunk, the white guys would take them out into the middle of nowhere, in the snow, and leave them to find their way back home. It's so sad.
See them in person, if you get a chance. They are nothing like the Dixie Chicks, and they are very entertaining.
See them in person, if you get a chance. They are nothing like the Dixie Chicks, and they are very entertaining.
To be specific: I think this song refers to an incident when a couple of white cops in Alberta, Canada, rode an Indian guy out of a small town and dumped him on the side of the road. He froze to death and they where prosecuted. Seems it's not the only time it happened but we really should be specific: not all white guys, not even all white cops, and not everywhere in Canada.
And yes, the Jennys have an excellent live show.
a_genuine_find wrote:
bump
"This sawng is gawgeous!"
bump
Another band I like is Misty River, from Vancouver, WA
https://www.mistyriverband.com/
Check out the album "Stories"
https://www.mistyriverband.com/
Check out the album "Stories"
fingerpin wrote:
Heartbreaking lyrics.
Heartbreaking treatment of fellow human beings. . .
Heartbreaking lyrics.
Heartbreaking treatment of fellow human beings. . .
hippiechick wrote:
I wish that was all we did with the Indians here in the States...
Apparently, in Canada, when the Indians got drunk, the white guys would take them out into the middle of nowhere, in the snow, and leave them to find their way back home. It's so sad.
See them in person, if you get a chance. They are nothing like the Dixie Chicks, and they are very entertaining.
See them in person, if you get a chance. They are nothing like the Dixie Chicks, and they are very entertaining.
I wish that was all we did with the Indians here in the States...
See this band live. This song is somehow even more chilling, and beautiful.
hippiechick wrote:
Heartbreaking lyrics.
Apparently, in Canada, when the Indians got drunk, the white guys would take them out into the middle of nowhere, in the snow, and leave them to find their way back home. It's so sad...
Heartbreaking lyrics.
Oh my. The refrain on this song CONSTANTLY gives me chills. "Kingdom come their will was done..." Magical stuff.
Was expecting Waylon Jennings. :)
Shesdifferent wrote:
The playlist has changed - Bill DOES listen... Another reason why I love this place. And now we're hearing "Safe Side" by James McMurtry. I know people have their complaints about McMurtry's stuff, but I love his lyrics, and his sorta snarky vocal. And "Level-land" is still one of his best.
Guh - I have GOT to shut up now.
I love these guys but how can you play this after "Money" by Pink Floyd?
The playlist has changed - Bill DOES listen... Another reason why I love this place. And now we're hearing "Safe Side" by James McMurtry. I know people have their complaints about McMurtry's stuff, but I love his lyrics, and his sorta snarky vocal. And "Level-land" is still one of his best.
Guh - I have GOT to shut up now.
I didn't even check to see the playlist - I just knew this was the Wailin' Jennys. They are so distinctive and scarily-good. The stark, pure vocals, the minimal musical backdrop... I'ma buy everything they've ever produced, if I ever win the lottery. Until then, I'll just love the hell out of this band at RP. Thanks, Bill - I know you're picky, but when you pick, you pick well. (I still think you should have considered Craig Chaquico, but that'll be a minor bone of contention between you and me.)
LOVE LOVE LOVE this band! They were amazing to begin with and keep getting better with every album! Me-ow!
I love these guys but how can you play this after "Money" by Pink Floyd?
Love the Jenny's! Music for the soul! 
What a gem, absolutely stunning!
10
10
8
9
9 Walrus_Gumbo wrote:
I've got txts to see them next week in Sellersville, PA.....can't wait
Saw them in concert Feb. 26, 2010, in Arroyo Grande, CA. An absolutely stunning evening! Voices so pure they made me weep. For the encore they walked to the front of the stage and sans microphones sang "One Voice" acapella. Left me speechless! 
I've got txts to see them next week in Sellersville, PA.....can't wait
Walrus_Gumbo wrote:
Cool!!
Saw them in concert Feb. 26, 2010, in Arroyo Grande, CA. An absolutely stunning evening! Voices so pure they made me weep. For the encore they walked to the front of the stage and sans microphones sang "One Voice" acapella. Left me speechless!
Cool!!
Saw them in concert Feb. 26, 2010, in Arroyo Grande, CA. An absolutely stunning evening! Voices so pure they made me weep. For the encore they walked to the front of the stage and sans microphones sang "One Voice" acapella. Left me speechless!
"This sawng is gawgeous!"
Good lyrics, here's a sample:
I have toured the endless starlight
take me home
I have shattered under midnight
take me home
there are no vultures in this clearing
except the ones who brought me here
and I'll no longer feed them
take me home
I have toured the endless starlight
take me home
I have shattered under midnight
take me home
there are no vultures in this clearing
except the ones who brought me here
and I'll no longer feed them
take me home
Aaaaaand, 5 
3. Still burnt out. 
dggeek wrote:
3. Still burnt out. dggeek wrote:
7 5
Just burnt out on it now... too much!
5Just burnt out on it now... too much!
EssexTex wrote:
You mean the Chixie Dicks?
They're better than the chicks with dicks
You mean the Chixie Dicks?
They're better than the chicks with dicks
Apparently, in Canada, when the Indians got drunk, the white guys would take them out into the middle of nowhere, in the snow, and leave them to find their way back home. It's so sad.
See them in person, if you get a chance. They are nothing like the Dixie Chicks, and they are very entertaining.
See them in person, if you get a chance. They are nothing like the Dixie Chicks, and they are very entertaining.
7 -> 5
Just burnt out on it now... too much!
Just burnt out on it now... too much!
paulpaar wrote:
I agree
I agree
WayUpNorth wrote:
No one should wanna be the Dixie Chicks.
Wow, just read the lyrics. Sounds like what the Dixie Chicks wannna-be. I mean that in a good way. This is the best song I've heard from this group. Perfect marriage of lyrics, music and vocals.
No one should wanna be the Dixie Chicks.
no thanks
Gotta like t fiddle
7
7
I love this song, but the "heavy rotation" tracks are really being played too often. Maybe there are other good songs on this album?
WayUpNorth wrote:
As in shotgun weddin'
Wow, just read the lyrics. Sounds like what the Dixie Chicks wannna-be. I mean that in a good way. This is the best song I've heard from this group. Perfect marriage of lyrics, music and vocals.
As in shotgun weddin'
Wow, just read the lyrics. Sounds like what the Dixie Chicks wannna-be. I mean that in a good way. This is the best song I've heard from this group. Perfect marriage of lyrics, music and vocals.
kaybee wrote:
And I'm sure you enjoy the poems featured on Garrison Keilor's Writer's Almanac.
The harmony is very nice, in spite of the meaningless "poetry." I take that back, I'm sure it means something to the writer, but to me, the symbolism and imagery is confused and obtuse.
I've just read the lyrics and upped my rating a notch. Apologies if they've been posted earlier but this is pure sublime poetry:
And I'm sure you enjoy the poems featured on Garrison Keilor's Writer's Almanac.
The harmony is very nice, in spite of the meaningless "poetry." I take that back, I'm sure it means something to the writer, but to me, the symbolism and imagery is confused and obtuse.
This song is so awesome, I almost want to go buy a freaking banjo!
kaybee wrote:
You're right kaybee, awesome lyrics!! Thanks for bringing them to my attention.
I've just read the lyrics and upped my rating a notch. Apologies if they've been posted earlier but this is pure sublime poetry:
I have come back to you broken
take me home
and my body bears this trouble
take me home
take me back to my beginning
before the hell of night set in
and i came to this border
take me home i have toured the endless starlight
take me home
i have shattered under midnight
take me home
there are no vultures in this clearing
except the ones who brought me here
and i'll no longer feed them
take me home kingdom come, their will was done
and now the earth is far away
from any kind of heaven
hallowed be these frozen fields
and every single one of us
still left in want of mercy
take us home now the bells stand still and hollow
take me home
and no one has come to mourn me
take me home
find me where i close my eyes
beneath this sky of powerlines
and let me see us clearly
take me home kingdom come, their will was done
and now the earth is far away
from any kind of heaven
hallowed be these frozen fields
and every single one of us
still left in want of mercy
take us home...
I have come back to you broken
take me home
and my body bears this trouble
take me home
take me back to my beginning
before the hell of night set in
and i came to this border
take me home i have toured the endless starlight
take me home
i have shattered under midnight
take me home
there are no vultures in this clearing
except the ones who brought me here
and i'll no longer feed them
take me home kingdom come, their will was done
and now the earth is far away
from any kind of heaven
hallowed be these frozen fields
and every single one of us
still left in want of mercy
take us home now the bells stand still and hollow
take me home
and no one has come to mourn me
take me home
find me where i close my eyes
beneath this sky of powerlines
and let me see us clearly
take me home kingdom come, their will was done
and now the earth is far away
from any kind of heaven
hallowed be these frozen fields
and every single one of us
still left in want of mercy
take us home...
You're right kaybee, awesome lyrics!! Thanks for bringing them to my attention.
8 => 9
I've just read the lyrics and upped my rating a notch. Apologies if they've been posted earlier but this is pure sublime poetry:
I have come back to you broken
take me home
and my body bears this trouble
take me home
take me back to my beginning
before the hell of night set in
and i came to this border
take me home i have toured the endless starlight
take me home
i have shattered under midnight
take me home
there are no vultures in this clearing
except the ones who brought me here
and i'll no longer feed them
take me home kingdom come, their will was done
and now the earth is far away
from any kind of heaven
hallowed be these frozen fields
and every single one of us
still left in want of mercy
take us home now the bells stand still and hollow
take me home
and no one has come to mourn me
take me home
find me where i close my eyes
beneath this sky of powerlines
and let me see us clearly
take me home kingdom come, their will was done
and now the earth is far away
from any kind of heaven
hallowed be these frozen fields
and every single one of us
still left in want of mercy
take us home...
I have come back to you broken
take me home
and my body bears this trouble
take me home
take me back to my beginning
before the hell of night set in
and i came to this border
take me home i have toured the endless starlight
take me home
i have shattered under midnight
take me home
there are no vultures in this clearing
except the ones who brought me here
and i'll no longer feed them
take me home kingdom come, their will was done
and now the earth is far away
from any kind of heaven
hallowed be these frozen fields
and every single one of us
still left in want of mercy
take us home now the bells stand still and hollow
take me home
and no one has come to mourn me
take me home
find me where i close my eyes
beneath this sky of powerlines
and let me see us clearly
take me home kingdom come, their will was done
and now the earth is far away
from any kind of heaven
hallowed be these frozen fields
and every single one of us
still left in want of mercy
take us home...
renegade_X wrote:
Thats a joke right?
Waylon Jennings, the group's inspiration, was in Holly's band and scheduled to fly out that night. He gave his seat up—there are different stories/versions as to why—to Holly. So, I guess it's sort of a sick joke.
Thats a joke right?
Waylon Jennings, the group's inspiration, was in Holly's band and scheduled to fly out that night. He gave his seat up—there are different stories/versions as to why—to Holly. So, I guess it's sort of a sick joke.
phenominal harmonies. I 
TWJ!
TWJ!Absolutely lovely.
Stellar!
Thank you .RP for these voices in my ears
exquisite
I love these ladies.
Had the pleasure of meeting these fine ladys at California World Fest last year. What fun !!!!!!
Ag3nt0rang3 wrote:
Given the lyrics of the song, and Bill's comments about them, I don't see why it's not a topic for this music forum.
I for one am glad that the Wailin' Jennys have written this song and that people here are discussing the state of Canada's 1st Nations people.
Given the lyrics of the song, and Bill's comments about them, I don't see why it's not a topic for this music forum.
I for one am glad that the Wailin' Jennys have written this song and that people here are discussing the state of Canada's 1st Nations people.
punkbot wrote:
Thats a joke right?
And to think, if they didn't give their seat up to Buddy Holly and Richie Valens, we'd never have this great song.
Thats a joke right?
Bear1492 wrote:
That's actually where they got their name from - a pun on the name of the singer 'Waylon Jennings.' They're a fantastic trio; I saw them in the Adirondacks this past summer and it was a magical concert...their harmonies soaring in a space lit by twilight. Beautiful.
I would swear that Bill just introduced the artist as Waylon Jennings.
Imagine my delight to learn that I had heard wrong. Very wrong.
Imagine my delight to learn that I had heard wrong. Very wrong.
That's actually where they got their name from - a pun on the name of the singer 'Waylon Jennings.' They're a fantastic trio; I saw them in the Adirondacks this past summer and it was a magical concert...their harmonies soaring in a space lit by twilight. Beautiful.
denmom wrote:
Given the lyrics of the song, and Bill's comments about them, I don't see why it's not a topic for this music forum.
I'm a good chunk Mi'kmaq, myself. But that's not a topic for a music forum.
Given the lyrics of the song, and Bill's comments about them, I don't see why it's not a topic for this music forum.
Tagish_girl wrote:
Hey, hon! It is a hot button issue for me, too. However, unlike many other nations, Canada is attempting to adress these issues in a positive, open way. Of course the First Nations issues at present are a multi-layered, twisted tangle. There are issues on all sides, financial, social, educational and govornmental (good and bad practices on both sides, federal and First Nations and reserve-specific). There is poverty, substance abuse, violence, the catch-22 cycle of generational welfare. It takes more than throwing money, or 'dissolving' reserves to force integration, to fix this. The issues run deep. It is not simple.
If you really want to get pissed, check out the current situation in Darfur. All out ethnic cleansing, systematically perpetrated by the government, using the tools of rape, poverty, murder, kidnapping, and the burning of villages, crops and livestock. Helicopter gunships strafing IDP (internal displaced persons) camps. No infrastructure, no food, no water. An apathetic international community who says, "It's only Africa. We don't really have any investments over there. It's just people." Remember Rwanda in 1994? How about Bosnia in '92? How about Zimbabwe? Kenya? Right now?
I am Canadian. I have a lot of First Nations family. I am glad I live here. History is history. What you do with the present is what really counts. Both sides are working at it. It won't always be smooth. I will be positive, and be part of the solution. And do what I can for Africa. Seems they have it worse than us.
So let me get this straight, you're taking me to task (not very harshly at all, but still...) for getting work up over the rights of First Nations peoples in Canada (and yes, I know it's a complicated issue)? You don't think that if more Canadians got worked up over this issue, that things might actually get done?
As to the Darfur issue, I agree, it's terrible over there, it needs to be fixed. But that shouldn't stop us from fixing the problems here. Kasechewan (among other reserves) isn't doing so well these days in the "running water" or "infrastructure" front, either. Have you heard of that res? That they don't have running water or proper sewage treatment? Did you know that this problem has been ongoing for about 10 years? Can you imagine living in a town in Canada that doesn't have running water? Or how about Attawapiskat, where they don't have a school?
I plan on being part of the solution too. And part of the problem is, nobody talks about the problems. This applies as much to us here in Canada as it does to the victims of genocide in Darfur.
Hey, hon! It is a hot button issue for me, too. However, unlike many other nations, Canada is attempting to adress these issues in a positive, open way. Of course the First Nations issues at present are a multi-layered, twisted tangle. There are issues on all sides, financial, social, educational and govornmental (good and bad practices on both sides, federal and First Nations and reserve-specific). There is poverty, substance abuse, violence, the catch-22 cycle of generational welfare. It takes more than throwing money, or 'dissolving' reserves to force integration, to fix this. The issues run deep. It is not simple.
If you really want to get pissed, check out the current situation in Darfur. All out ethnic cleansing, systematically perpetrated by the government, using the tools of rape, poverty, murder, kidnapping, and the burning of villages, crops and livestock. Helicopter gunships strafing IDP (internal displaced persons) camps. No infrastructure, no food, no water. An apathetic international community who says, "It's only Africa. We don't really have any investments over there. It's just people." Remember Rwanda in 1994? How about Bosnia in '92? How about Zimbabwe? Kenya? Right now?
I am Canadian. I have a lot of First Nations family. I am glad I live here. History is history. What you do with the present is what really counts. Both sides are working at it. It won't always be smooth. I will be positive, and be part of the solution. And do what I can for Africa. Seems they have it worse than us.
So let me get this straight, you're taking me to task (not very harshly at all, but still...) for getting work up over the rights of First Nations peoples in Canada (and yes, I know it's a complicated issue)? You don't think that if more Canadians got worked up over this issue, that things might actually get done?
As to the Darfur issue, I agree, it's terrible over there, it needs to be fixed. But that shouldn't stop us from fixing the problems here. Kasechewan (among other reserves) isn't doing so well these days in the "running water" or "infrastructure" front, either. Have you heard of that res? That they don't have running water or proper sewage treatment? Did you know that this problem has been ongoing for about 10 years? Can you imagine living in a town in Canada that doesn't have running water? Or how about Attawapiskat, where they don't have a school?
I plan on being part of the solution too. And part of the problem is, nobody talks about the problems. This applies as much to us here in Canada as it does to the victims of genocide in Darfur.
Enjoyable 
And they sound just as good Live, its not studio magic with these 3 , wonderful
I would swear that Bill just introduced the artist as Waylon Jennings.
Imagine my delight to learn that I had heard wrong. Very wrong.
Imagine my delight to learn that I had heard wrong. Very wrong.
amandamustdance wrote:
I first heard Arlington on P.R. and subsequently bought the 40 days album. I was not disappointed. Having heard this, it's likely I 'll buy thar album too.
I can't afford to listen to P.R. too often.
I like The Wailin' Jennys. I like Arlington better than this song though :)
I first heard Arlington on P.R. and subsequently bought the 40 days album. I was not disappointed. Having heard this, it's likely I 'll buy thar album too.
I can't afford to listen to P.R. too often.
Just bumped this to a 10. Love these lovely ladies!
Tagish_girl wrote:
History is history. What you do with the present is what really counts. Both sides are working at it. It won't always be smooth. I will be positive, and be part of the solution. And do what I can for Africa. Seems they have it worse than us.
Would that our politicians, on all sides of all borders, had such wisdom as a guiding principle. Bless you!
History is history. What you do with the present is what really counts. Both sides are working at it. It won't always be smooth. I will be positive, and be part of the solution. And do what I can for Africa. Seems they have it worse than us.
Would that our politicians, on all sides of all borders, had such wisdom as a guiding principle. Bless you!
I got to see them this past weekend . In person they are amazing . Wonderful music , the talent will amaze you ,most enjoyable thank you RP for introducing me to this ...
Awesome, tagish.
Nice music too............
Nice music too............
This music is just gorgeous. ^..^~
Ag3nt0rang3 wrote:
You have no idea. Canada's treatment of its First Nation peoples has been disgusting, and is a stain on Canada's history*. Sorry, this is a hot-button issue for me. ................
Disclaimer:
1) I am Canadian.
2) I may or may not have First Nations ancestors.
Hey, hon! It is a hot button issue for me, too. However, unlike many other nations, Canada is attempting to adress these issues in a positive, open way. Of course the First Nations issues at present are a multi-layered, twisted tangle. There are issues on all sides, financial, social, educational and govornmental (good and bad practices on both sides, federal and First Nations and reserve-specific). There is poverty, substance abuse, violence, the catch-22 cycle of generational welfare. It takes more than throwing money, or 'dissolving' reserves to force integration, to fix this. The issues run deep. It is not simple.
If you really want to get pissed, check out the current situation in Darfur. All out ethnic cleansing, systematically perpetrated by the government, using the tools of rape, poverty, murder, kidnapping, and the burning of villages, crops and livestock. Helicopter gunships strafing IDP (internal displaced persons) camps. No infrastructure, no food, no water. An apathetic international community who says, "It's only Africa. We don't really have any investments over there. It's just people." Remember Rwanda in 1994? How about Bosnia in '92? How about Zimbabwe? Kenya? Right now?
I am Canadian. I have a lot of First Nations family. I am glad I live here. History is history. What you do with the present is what really counts. Both sides are working at it. It won't always be smooth. I will be positive, and be part of the solution. And do what I can for Africa. Seems they have it worse than us.
You have no idea. Canada's treatment of its First Nation peoples has been disgusting, and is a stain on Canada's history*. Sorry, this is a hot-button issue for me. ................
Disclaimer:
1) I am Canadian.
2) I may or may not have First Nations ancestors.
Hey, hon! It is a hot button issue for me, too. However, unlike many other nations, Canada is attempting to adress these issues in a positive, open way. Of course the First Nations issues at present are a multi-layered, twisted tangle. There are issues on all sides, financial, social, educational and govornmental (good and bad practices on both sides, federal and First Nations and reserve-specific). There is poverty, substance abuse, violence, the catch-22 cycle of generational welfare. It takes more than throwing money, or 'dissolving' reserves to force integration, to fix this. The issues run deep. It is not simple.
If you really want to get pissed, check out the current situation in Darfur. All out ethnic cleansing, systematically perpetrated by the government, using the tools of rape, poverty, murder, kidnapping, and the burning of villages, crops and livestock. Helicopter gunships strafing IDP (internal displaced persons) camps. No infrastructure, no food, no water. An apathetic international community who says, "It's only Africa. We don't really have any investments over there. It's just people." Remember Rwanda in 1994? How about Bosnia in '92? How about Zimbabwe? Kenya? Right now?
I am Canadian. I have a lot of First Nations family. I am glad I live here. History is history. What you do with the present is what really counts. Both sides are working at it. It won't always be smooth. I will be positive, and be part of the solution. And do what I can for Africa. Seems they have it worse than us.
Just saw them in concert. Bee-yoo-tee-full.
yep. seen it happen in wyoming and montana. funny 'bout that though, cowboy on the agency, rarely has hope to find, in retribution. yippie kiyai way.
Thanks for sharing your insight, Ag3ntOrang3.
We in Australia are another country facing such difficult issues.
LIKE HONEY OOZIN' OF OF A HIVE.....SWEET!! 
I saw these ladies twice, deftly introduced by Garrison Keillor. He features them on Prairie Home Companion fairly often. They are also master musicians, playing a number of instruments between them. And yes, well-crafted glorious harmonies.
Winni-Toba music at its best!
Great Harmony!
9 --> 10! I love these women's vocal harmonies . . . gorgeous!
lush and haunting harmonies,... a pretty song. . .
Love the Wailin' Jennys! found this CD at a second hand music store in Canada while we were there last summer.
Had the great fortune to go and see the Jennys play a few weeks ago, and enjoyed this song, at a fantastic little venue which is a former church - the Bronte Music Club. Brilliant!
I'm a good chunk Mi'kmaq, myself. But that's not a topic for a music forum.
xkolibuul wrote:
....Like every other country, Canada too has its ugly side.
You have no idea. Canada's treatment of its First Nation peoples has been disgusting, and is a stain on Canada's history*. I won't go into details (no time) but let it suffice to say that Canada's reserve system is supposedly the basis for South Africa's old Township system. Then there were the Residential Schools, which some have argued were tools of genocide. And the weird "Indian Status" regulations. And on and on. The government is trying to make up for this horrible treatment, but progress is slow, and its not a popular issue, so it doesn't get a lot of attention.
The insidious nature of the reserve system blocks unity and progress, i.e. "here's your tax-free exemption, exemption from hunting and fishing laws, your monthly support cheque, now don't let me catch you living with white folk," and divides the First Nations from the rest of the people, because as an Aboriginal, you can't enjoy status benefits unless your address is on a reserve; and fosters resentment in everyone else ("those damn indians don't pay taxes, get free education, etc, they don't deserve anymore help"). So, the Nishnabe are afraid to re-negotiate treaties because they are afraid to lose what they already have, and the whitefolk don't want to re-negotiate treaties because they think the First Nations have been given too much already.
In the mean time, the First Nations people live in poverty, the government pays more to administer an unwieldy system, and also pays money out to the Nish hand over fist when the Supreme Court decides a particular part the system is unfair, than it does in benefits to First Nations people. Trying to fix all the problems would be cheaper, but is political suicide, so we all pay more than we should for bureaucratic crap and huge law suit settlements while many First Nations communities do without schools, water and sewage infrastructure, etc.
Sorry, this is a hot-button issue for me.
Disclaimer:
1) I am Canadian.
2) I may or may not have First Nations ancestors.
Thought he said Waylon Jennings, sounded a bit too feminine there for a second!
Fabulous... and their voices are heavenly.
Thanks for telling us what this song is about, Bill. Like every other country, Canada too has its ugly side.
Easy on the ears, eyes and pocket.....tix are usually most reasonable.
Excellent. Haven't heard this here for a while.